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Old 15.04.2018, 19:35
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Re: My sister died two month ago and we are over clearing her flat

Sorry about your sister's demise and hope you are able to sort things through without too much hassle. Good that BelgiumMum has offered to help as she is so close to Hauterive (such a lovely place).

Are you from the UK? We regularly drive back, and if we can take some stuff over for you, not furniture, but books, or decorations, etc- will be happy to help.
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Old 15.04.2018, 19:57
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Not only in a foreign language. We had a relative who died 2012 - the case was closed mid last year.
MIL died in 2011, still not closed (MIL and all heirs being Swiss, an all are native Italian speakers).

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Old 15.04.2018, 20:01
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MIL died in 2011, still not closed (MIL and all heirs being Swiss, an all are native Italian speakers).

Tom
Why does it take so long here (or at least in some cases)?
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Old 15.04.2018, 20:03
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Why does it take so long here (or at least in some cases)?
One year to clear the will, for starts (in case any alternative wills show up, there is one year to produce them after date of death).

And that is only if nobody contests it, otherwise longer.

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Old 15.04.2018, 20:22
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In Switzerland? Yikes that's daunting.
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MIL died in 2011, still not closed (MIL and all heirs being Swiss, an all are native Italian speakers).

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First the court had to search the entire world for heirs (okay, one sat in America and an other bunch in Germany. And they told us he's in America yet not where or an address Finding that out took an othre few months.). During the procedure one person died - so the court had to check again on her and put her children on the list ... the amazing thing was that we inherited different percentages, depending on the degree of kinship. Then depending on how high the share was, we had to pay tax or not. And one was the godchild = those inherit taxfree in ct. Zurich (which lead me to wonder if I was ripped off in Basel years before, rofl). And after the taxpeople made all these complicated calculations they send you ONE bill (collective accountability)= it all has to be sorted when the last money is shared ..... yeah well but that's an other year or two later.

While in Basel those lovely people from the "Erbschaftsamt" do most of the work for you, in Zurich they don't help you at all .... they just want the taxes.
I told my single brother to either make a will or not die in Kanton Zurich

Inheriting money is hard work. Depending on what's left at the end, the hourly pay is not worth it
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Old 15.04.2018, 20:51
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Re: My sister died two month ago and we are over clearing her flat

And be happy that this is Switzerland, and not Italy, as that part is lagging several years beyond the Swiss part (we may be done after 10 years, but I wouldn't bet on it).

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Nigel, Condolences.

If her flat was rented, have you or someone given notice for the flat. Oddity in Switzerland, still responsible for notice period after death.
That would also be true in the UK, although it's more likely to be a fixed length contract with a known end date.
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Sorry for your loss. It's never an easy thing to go through the belongings of your loved one.

As moggy says, you may still need to give notice on the flat and either pay those months or find a follow-on tenant to take over the lease. In German this term is "nachmieter" but I don't know what the term is in French.
The equivalent of Nachmieter, is, in that situation a "locataire de remplacement solvable" (which is more or less a "substitute tenant who can afford to pay the rent")

Due to the sad circumstances, they can do a "résiliation anticipée" (early contract termination):

http://www.cagi.ch/fr/logement/quest...il-a-loyer.php


Which implies:
1) Finding that new tenant who can afford to pay the rent
2) sending in writing, recorded mail, to the landlord/agency the information, resiliation date, and name of the new tenant.
3) Obtaining written confirmation of the above.

A few things to know is that the new tenant should be in position to take over the lease at current cost and conditions. If the agency/owner want an increase, it's their problems. Also, if the new tenant is not liked, it's again not the leaving tenant problems, who is release of the contract obligation.
No need to have/collect personal data from the new tenant to prove their solvability, having a glance at work contract or asking a signed letter is enough.

It's typically a process where owners are abusing and cheating ignorant leaving tenants. Next phase will be the final inspection, which also needs a solid information to avoid being scammed of thousands of CHF.
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Sorry for you loss.

If she had children or grand-children, they need to deal with it and not you.

In MIL's case, certificate of inheritance took 14 months, after which accounts were released.

Tom
Thank you for your reply. She had no children and my two other brothers did not want to accept so it is down to me. She rented the apartment and in the banks she only has just over enough to settle the debts.

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Re: My sister died two month ago and we are over clearing her flat

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My sympathies, too, Nigeld.

The following sites offer free adverts:
www.tutti.ch
www.anibis.ch.

If you can translate the ads into the local language, good. If not, try "Google translate", or ask a neighbour. If you really can't get to the local language, which would be a pity, then just put the ad up in English, some people do that.

Best to include as many photos as are allowed, all the measurements, an honest description of and photo of any damage, a clear price, and specifics about collection or delivery, e.g. "On payment in advance, this item can be posted to you for an extra charge of CHF...", or "Must be collected".

The two big Supermarket chains MIGROS and CO-OP often have free noticeboards, where you can hang up ads. However: they must be written or glued onto their own post-card size printed cards, so best to check that format first, and better still ask for a bundle to bring home and assemble.

If you have things to give away for free, you can, in addition to the above, use www.fleedoo.ch, on which all items are free.

I think it is important to you to decide, in yourself, whether you need to sell the objects, because they are worth something and you need or would like the money, or whether it might be less work, or quicker (and this might be a factor of cost, too) to give them away. In that case, some charity shops may take some of the better (but no damaged) items.

If at all possible, try to meet the neighbours. They may help you, too. If any neighbour was a friend to your sister, you might also offer them a gift of something out of the home.

I wish you strength and courage, since it can be a tiring and bewildering process to disband the home of someone you cared about. Hope you get square meals and enough rest.
Thank you yes it is very hard

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Re: My sister died two month ago and we are over clearing her flat

Have you spoken to the flat's owner and/or Regie (agency) to explain the situation. Notice is usually by end of May, for September. In the circumstances, they may agree to help, may choose to take flat over for renovations, may have someone in mind already.
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Thank you for your reply. She had no children and my two other brothers did not want to accept so it is down to me. She rented the apartment and in the banks she only has just over enough to settle the debts.

The upside is that there's no quarreling over the inheritance.
That's really one of the saddest things to happen, IMO.
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Re: My sister died two month ago and we are over clearing her flat

Depending on the weather, many people leave things outside their home with FreeNotice on it, you need to translate that to the local language.

You need to make sure it is not obstructing the road and if not picked up within a couple of days you might need to take in. Weather - make sure it is not going to rain.

It is very hard going through a loved one's things after they pass away.
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Sorry about your sister's demise and hope you are able to sort things through without too much hassle. Good that BelgiumMum has offered to help as she is so close to Hauterive (such a lovely place).

Are you from the UK? We regularly drive back, and if we can take some stuff over for you, not furniture, but books, or decorations, etc- will be happy to help.
Thank you very much for the kind offer if there is anything I will PM you. I think it is probably just photographs and letters that will fit in our cases at the moment.
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