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Old 04.06.2018, 17:53
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Re: Lyme disease vaccinations (against tick bites)

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I'd be delighted with an effecctive Lyme vaccine. I got two Lyme infected tic bites 7-8 years ago. On the back of each calf, a classic bulls-eye rash. I was cutting the grass in my garden in a suburb from Basel. I was treated with a 7 days dose of penicillin. It now appears there's a distinct possibility that it wasn't sufficient.

The good news is there's a local specialist who seems to be very much aware of the issues and connected with researchers in Berlin. The articles on his website are encouraging that it is taken seriously by the practice.

The only thing that worries me slightly is that he also advocates homeopathy. If he offers me sugar water as treatment I'll be singularly unimpressed...
Could you post the website mentioned?
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Old 04.06.2018, 21:53
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Sure: http://www.medmove.ch/
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Re: Lyme disease vaccinations (against tick bites)

Just moved to Luzern and would like to get my whole family (2 adults + 3 year old) vaccinated, including our four-legged fur baby.

We don't have a GP yet (just got here 5 days ago) and looking for a local vet as well. Any suggestions?
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Old 14.06.2018, 16:02
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Just moved to Luzern and would like to get my whole family (2 adults + 3 year old) vaccinated, including our four-legged fur baby.

We don't have a GP yet (just got here 5 days ago) and looking for a local vet as well. Any suggestions?
Just one: you probably don’t want to use the vet for your family’s vaccinations...

Sorry, can’t recommend any vets in Luzern, but if you can’t find one you’re happy with I can recommend some in Zug.
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Just moved to Luzern and would like to get my whole family (2 adults + 3 year old) vaccinated, including our four-legged fur baby.

We don't have a GP yet (just got here 5 days ago) and looking for a local vet as well. Any suggestions?
Whilst living in Kanton Zug we had need for an emergency clinic one weekend and took our old girl to the “Tierklinik Obergrund” in Luzern. They were very kind, efficient and spoke some English. This was a few years ago so no comment on current status.

https://www.tierklinik-obergrund.ch/
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Old 14.06.2018, 17:13
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Could you post the website mentioned?
Wasn't massively impressed by the bedside manner but if the expertise is good, I don't mind not getting a lolly.
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Old 14.06.2018, 17:27
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Just one: you probably don’t want to use the vet for your family’s vaccinations...
I'm not so sure about that. Think of it this way: How many humans do you know who have ever tried to bite their Md?
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including our four-legged fur baby.
MammaG, so that your questions regarding your four legged baby get seen by the folks who would likely be able to help, it would be a good idea to ask them separate from questions regarding the humans in the family, in the Pet Corner.

Re: Vax against tick born diseases - you really need to speak to a local vet to assess risk, as the risk vary by locality. And while you are at it, speak to the local vet about the leptospirosis vax. Lepto is very high risk this year where I live, YMMV.

To get you started, here is a thread recommending various practices throughout Switzerland:

https://www.englishforum.ch/pet-corn...endations.html

This is a long thread, so you'd have to comb through it to find recommendations close to you.

Depending on where in Luzern you are, you might want to note the details for the Ennetseeklinik in Hünenberg ZG which serves as the region's 24/7 emergency after hours clinic.
http://www.ennetseeklinik.ch/de/Home.html

Also make note of the University of Zürich Tierspital, the research/specialist referral/emergency clinic in Zürich city. Not close to you, but (doG forbid) if the need arises you might be referred there:
http://www.tierspital.uzh.ch/de.html


So hop on over to the Pet Corner with your canine questions, where hopefully some of the Luzern contingent will see them.
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Re: Lime disease vaccinations (against tick bites)

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I'd ask whoever told you about the pharmacy again, I'd no idea that a pharmacy gave vaccinations.

Anyway, it's probably moot. As far as I'm aware there is no human vaccine for Lyme disease. Without getting into a fairly complex issue, there was something called LYMErix but it was withdrawn by the manufacturer.
Turns out that there's been some news here and I was a little out of date. It's not reached the market yet but there's a vaccine in trial and it's looking good (from my site):

https://swissmountainleader.com/2018...is-in-the-way/
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Re: Lyme disease vaccinations (against tick bites)

Federal government now urging everyone to get vaccinated.

"Ticks have become such a menace across Switzerland that the government is urging everyone to get vaccinated against one of the diseases they cause - early summer meningo-encephalitis (ESME). Health insurers will reimburse vaccination costs.

Previously only recommended in specific regions, the net for vaccinations has now been cast wider. That's because of an increase in cases of ESME, a disease which attacks the central nervous system: 380 cases were reported in 2018, compared to 100 per year in previous years.

According to the government information platform ch.ch,

https://www.ch.ch/en/ticks/

the most widespread tick species in Switzerland is the wood tick. It prefers deciduous woods with abundant undergrowth, the edge of the forest and forest paths, and waits on low growing plants until a warm-blooded host (a person or animal) brushes against the plant. Ticks do not fall from trees.

Ticks have to be properly removed with tweezers. If part of the tick remains under the skin for longer than around 36-48 hours, there is a risk of becoming ill.

Lyme disease on the rise

A second disease transported by ticks is bacterial Lyme disease (Lyme borreliosis). Most people who are treated right away with antibiotics have a good prognosis, but if treatment is delayed, the bacteria can move to the central nervous system, muscles, joints, eyes, and heart.

The Swiss league for patients with tick-borne diseases

http://www.zeckenliga.ch/wissen/praevention/index.html

recommends that people prevent bites by avoiding bushes and tall grass, by wearing clothing that covers the arms, legs and feet, and by checking the body carefully for ticks and their larvae."

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-t...sease/44671178
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Re: Lyme disease vaccinations (against tick bites)

Swiss government extends vaccination area for tick-borne encephalitis as cases increase

Now for all areas except Ticino and Geneva.

"Switzerland's main health authority has issued new warnings and guidelines to deal with the rising threat of ticks.

The number of cases of tick-borne encephalitis (TBE) has been rising in recent years in Switzerland with 377 manifestations of the disease, a new record, registered in 2018 alone.

Since 2005, the average number of registered cases of TBE had been between 100 and 250 in Switzerland.

Vaccination against this complicated disease is strongly recommended for all "people who are exposed to ticks through open air activity, particularly in forests," states a communiqué by the Federal Office of Public Health (OFSP) on February 4th.

Vaccination against tick-borne encephalitis is particularly important given that no known treatment for the disease exists. Tick-borne encephalitis can lead to a degeneration of the nervous system and partial or full paralysis in the arms, legs and face for long periods.

The vaccination is recommended for local residents and visiting tourists in all cantons, except in the cantons of Ticino and Geneva, who spend a lot of time in open air areas where ticks thrive. Ticks live especially in grassy areas near forest edges, clearings, hedges or grasslands."

https://www.thelocal.ch/20190204/swi...cases-increase

Still doesn't tell you where you can have the vaccinations done though.
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Re: Lyme disease vaccinations (against tick bites)

Sunstore in Nyon is offering them. Try your pharmacy.
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Sunstore in Nyon is offering them. Try your pharmacy.
Vaccination against Lyme disease? or just tick-borne encephalitis (FSME)?

Pharmacies offering vaccinations can be found here.
https://impfapotheke.ch/
Tick-borne encephalitis is listed as FSME.
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I'll have my FSME redone tomorrow (had it done 2008). I live in a "risk-area" and roam it too - when I get my lazy a. up.
It's payed by the health insurance.
When you had the initial one done, was it just one injection or a series of them and if a series, at what intervals?
Do I understand correctly that you had a booster injection for this after 10 years?
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When you had the initial one done, was it just one injection or a series of them and if a series, at what intervals?
Do I understand correctly that you had a booster injection for this after 10 years?
Had to look this up:
FSME Immun CC, TBE vaccine:
1.10.07 = I
29.10.07 = II
11.6.08 = III

then booster 5.6.18
Next one: 2028
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Vaccination against tick-borne encephalitis is particularly important given that no known treatment for the disease exists. Tick-borne encephalitis can lead to a degeneration of the nervous system and partial or full paralysis in the arms, legs and face for long periods...
...with usual The Local efficiency they are talking about FSME but have nicely described the symptoms for Lyme disease!

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https://www.iamat.org/country/switze...e-encephalitis
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When you had the initial one done, was it just one injection or a series of them and if a series, at what intervals?
Do I understand correctly that you had a booster injection for this after 10 years?
It’s a series of three injections.

First one, then a month later and third one six months after the initial one. They are good for 10 years then you need a booster.

They recommended starting them in autumn so that you have completed the full course before spring when ticks become more prevalent. Having said that if you start now the first two shots will give pretty good protection already.

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