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Re: Cost of dentists in Switzerland

[QUOTE=wendylynn;2144296]Hello.i have a 'broken tooth ' question. A local city dentist has estimated it will be $1000 to fix a broken tooth.anyone have experience doing something similar in Germany?any info would be appreciated.


Hi WendyLynn

It is quite difficult to answer your question without seeing the tooth, or at least, seeing the x-ray. There are many different ways to repair a tooth, depending upon the condition of the nerve, the number of surfaces which must be replaced and the type of material used for the restoration.


For example, if you have a chewing ( occlusal) surface simple caries, it can be easily repaied with a one surface composite. ( 30 minutes) On the other hand, a broken molar with three walls missing and an infected nerve, might need a root canal treatment ( 2-3 appointments), a build up of the tooth and then a ceramic or metal crown ( 1-2 appointments). The first scenario needs about 30 minutes of treatment, while the second might be 4-5 hours, plus a laboratory fee. Obviously, the costs are different.

Cheaper solutions may be accomplished with the newer composite ( plastic like..) fillings. These can be very good and buy some time, if costs are a problem for you. However, they are often not long term solutions, although they can last a long time.


I encourage you to think about quality and cost, whilst looking for a solution. Find a dentist whom you trust and has a good education. After working in four countries, over 30!! years, I can assure you it is not always the same, even if the equipment looks modern. My advice is to find the best dentist you can afford and a great Dental Hygienist. She ( he) can be your best advocate and advisor concerning your oral health.

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Hello.i have a 'broken tooth ' question. A local city dentist has estimated it will be $1000 to fix a broken tooth.anyone have experience doing something similar in Germany?any info would be appreciated.
Was it broken through decay or a similar tooth-related condition or was it broken through some kind of external trauma?

If it's the latter, there is a chance it can be paid for through your accident insurance.

I've experienced both cases; one where the outside of a tooth sheared off because of a dodgy filling, which I had to pay for, and another case where a tooth was damaged because I was clobbered in the face by a ski helmet, the full treatment of which was paid for by the accident insurance.
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Re: Cost of dentists in Switzerland

Based on forum recommendations, I went to dr Stefan Paul at Bellevue. I found him to be polite, efficient and not too expensive. Between 150-200 chf for teeth cleaning and he is an implant specialist. He actually told me he gets a lot of patients because of the english forum.

Secondly, I tried two other 'children's' dentists for my son, who needed a filling at age 5. Unfortunately they were not positive experiences as the dentist seemed to lack true confidence with small children, even though they told me it would be 'ok'. It was quite traumatic for mother and child...

I then emailed cosmodent, at the bahnhofplatz in Zurich, and explained about our previous experiences, and recieved a reassuring series of email from dr may Zimmerman. We took our two sons to her, and she was true to her word and explained the Importance of teeth care and what she would do to check and clean their teeth, before sitting the, in the chair. It was done in a very age-appropriate way and she connected with the boys in a very positive way as well.

We have since taken our older son back for further treatment, and recieved an itemized quotation before our next visit. They write on their quote that they will revise with the client if it is going to vary more than 15%. So we are confident, based on previous experience with dr Zimmerman, that they will treat us with respect.

However, on the other side, I do have the feeling cosmodent may not be the cheapest option....but having had two negative experiences, I am happy to pay a higher price knowing up-front what the cost will be, and knowing they will treat my children in a way that is respectful and as least traumatic as possible...
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Re: Cost of dentists in Switzerland

Oh boy, I could write a book about the different offices and dentists with whom I have worked! And I have become so picky, I wish I could go back to school, so I could become the dentist in charge!( a wee bit late at 56!) I wish all could be as wonderful as May Zimmermann!

If I may, I would like to share some of my experiences with others and help the greater public make good choices.

In one current practice where I additionally work, 95 o/o of the patients have mouths filled with crowns, bridges, implants and fillings. They have invested small fortunes in the mouths, and the results are often not my dream of a Healthy Smile. The average profile of the patients is dramatically different. Yes, it is cheaper there. ( different kanton) Yet, the doctors provide for a completely different clientele, who are actually less demanding and more accepting of huge treatments. Just yesterday, a lovely farmer told me his problems were in the family. He had a full upper denture permanently attached to 6 Implants and numerous crowns and bridges on his lower arch, probably costing the equivalent of a mid-sized vehicle!

Yet, in Zūrich my patients are quite generally a different type. They are often better informed, searching out the best solutions for themselves, and their families. Most of them need a dentist occasionally, and primarily visit a professional DH ( Dental Hygienist) twice a year. They have natural teeth, and when something must be done, it follows the concept of minimal invasive care and strong prevention. Their children start early, get their teeth straighten and have supervised daily hygiene. It is almost a no brainer, and the results are beautiful.
(The cost of my treatment is exactly 11 chf more in Zurich.)

I hope these examples help...when it comes to thinking about the "costs of dentists", as I sympathize with you, but hope the big picture helps you, with your choices about dental care.

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Re: Cost of dentists in Switzerland

Bringing this back from the dead as I've been to the dentist for my first time in CH and wanted to get some feedback.

Story in short, I decided to try out a dentist (which was recommended on EF by some people) so I made an appointment. In the end there was a series of 3 appointments:
1. With dental hygienist: x-rays, note down every tooth state/fillings/problems, ultrasound cleaning, explaining the proper flossing technique etc etc, about 2h in all, cost about 350chf.
2. Also with dental hygienist, second round of cleaning, check up etc, about 1h, cost about 150chf. Upon this second round some cavities were found and deemed relatively urgent so an appointment with the dentist was scheduled soon-ish, to fix them.
3. Dentist appointment: to my surprise wasn't for fixing the urgent problems but another very thorough examination, including again noting down every tooth/state/filling/problems, tooth vitality test (touching them with a very cold device), photos of every single tooth (not x-rays, photos), going through the photos with me as well as a short polishing of two teeth. Duration about 1h, cost about 400chf, out of which the most expensive were: examination of new patient (though, I had been pretty thoroughly examined at point 1), tooth vitality test (though x-rays were there and afaik indicate which teeth are non-vital), photos of teeth and explanations of dentist procedures. Surprisingly (to me) the actual polishing of the two teeth was ~8% of the bill. The next steps would be to get a treatment plan offer for the problems.

I have to stress that both the dental hygienist and the dentist were (at least to my eyes) supremely professional and thoroughly nice people. I am a bit put off by the bill so far though, 900chf or thereabouts, especially the fact that for this money I still have 100% of the cavities I previously had (though, to be fair, in a mouth that's plaque-free)

I would love to hear some opinions/advice if this is normal and expected in CH or there is anything that I could improve.
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Re: Cost of dentists in Switzerland

I've my first appoinment in about 2 years booked for next week, they said xrays and cleaning should be about 150. I'll let you know how the experience and pricing goes once I have some more info.
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Re: Cost of dentists in Switzerland

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Bringing this back from the dead as I've been to the dentist for my first time in CH and wanted to get some feedback.

Story in short, I decided to try out a dentist (which was recommended on EF by some people) so I made an appointment. In the end there was a series of 3 appointments:
1. With dental hygienist: x-rays, note down every tooth state/fillings/problems, ultrasound cleaning, explaining the proper flossing technique etc etc, about 2h in all, cost about 350chf.
2. Also with dental hygienist, second round of cleaning, check up etc, about 1h, cost about 150chf. Upon this second round some cavities were found and deemed relatively urgent so an appointment with the dentist was scheduled soon-ish, to fix them.
3. Dentist appointment: to my surprise wasn't for fixing the urgent problems but another very thorough examination, including again noting down every tooth/state/filling/problems, tooth vitality test (touching them with a very cold device), photos of every single tooth (not x-rays, photos), going through the photos with me as well as a short polishing of two teeth. Duration about 1h, cost about 400chf, out of which the most expensive were: examination of new patient (though, I had been pretty thoroughly examined at point 1), tooth vitality test (though x-rays were there and afaik indicate which teeth are non-vital), photos of teeth and explanations of dentist procedures. Surprisingly (to me) the actual polishing of the two teeth was ~8% of the bill. The next steps would be to get a treatment plan offer for the problems.

I have to stress that both the dental hygienist and the dentist were (at least to my eyes) supremely professional and thoroughly nice people. I am a bit put off by the bill so far though, 900chf or thereabouts, especially the fact that for this money I still have 100% of the cavities I previously had (though, to be fair, in a mouth that's plaque-free)

I would love to hear some opinions/advice if this is normal and expected in CH or there is anything that I could improve.
Oh, my god... 900 chf for a dental cleaning, likely unnecessary x-rays and talk? Sounds like a complete rip-off. Not to mention the amount of radiation, from the unnecessary x-rays. This is totally the opposite of the approach we take in our dental practice.
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Re: Cost of dentists in Switzerland

Some procedures are very expensive but they probably won't be doing them every time.
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Bringing this back from the dead as I've been to the dentist for my first time in CH and wanted to get some feedback.

Story in short, I decided to try out a dentist (which was recommended on EF by some people) so I made an appointment. In the end there was a series of 3 appointments:
1. With dental hygienist: x-rays, note down every tooth state/fillings/problems, ultrasound cleaning, explaining the proper flossing technique etc etc, about 2h in all, cost about 350chf.
2. Also with dental hygienist, second round of cleaning, check up etc, about 1h, cost about 150chf. Upon this second round some cavities were found and deemed relatively urgent so an appointment with the dentist was scheduled soon-ish, to fix them.
3. Dentist appointment: to my surprise wasn't for fixing the urgent problems but another very thorough examination, including again noting down every tooth/state/filling/problems, tooth vitality test (touching them with a very cold device), photos of every single tooth (not x-rays, photos), going through the photos with me as well as a short polishing of two teeth. Duration about 1h, cost about 400chf, out of which the most expensive were: examination of new patient (though, I had been pretty thoroughly examined at point 1), tooth vitality test (though x-rays were there and afaik indicate which teeth are non-vital), photos of teeth and explanations of dentist procedures. Surprisingly (to me) the actual polishing of the two teeth was ~8% of the bill. The next steps would be to get a treatment plan offer for the problems.

I have to stress that both the dental hygienist and the dentist were (at least to my eyes) supremely professional and thoroughly nice people. I am a bit put off by the bill so far though, 900chf or thereabouts, especially the fact that for this money I still have 100% of the cavities I previously had (though, to be fair, in a mouth that's plaque-free)

I would love to hear some opinions/advice if this is normal and expected in CH or there is anything that I could improve.
You got completely and utterly ripped off with unnecessary treatment, and to be honest should have known better considering how freely the information is available on this forum surrounding Swiss dentists. Also, surely you must have had experience with other dentists in your lifetime to know what is standard practise and what isn't? Instead of sitting there and thinking "hmm this doesn't seem right, I already had this done", maybe try actually saying something next time?

The same appointments you had, examinations/cleaning without treatment, should cost no more than 150-250chf.

Expensive lesson to learn.
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You got completely and utterly ripped off with unnecessary treatment, and to be honest should have known better considering how freely the information is available on this forum surrounding Swiss dentists. Also, surely you must have had experience with other dentists in your lifetime to know what is standard practise and what isn't? Instead of sitting there and thinking "hmm this doesn't seem right, I already had this done", maybe try actually saying something next time?

The same appointments you had, examinations/cleaning without treatment, should cost no more than 150-250chf.

Expensive lesson to learn.
Absolutely agree

I just hope you haven't been back to have the "cavities" fixed.

Get a second opinion.
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You got completely and utterly ripped off with unnecessary treatment, and to be honest should have known better considering how freely the information is available on this forum surrounding Swiss dentists. Also, surely you must have had experience with other dentists in your lifetime to know what is standard practise and what isn't? Instead of sitting there and thinking "hmm this doesn't seem right, I already had this done", maybe try actually saying something next time?

The same appointments you had, examinations/cleaning without treatment, should cost no more than 150-250chf.

Expensive lesson to learn.
Well, that's a very unhelpful post mr Dog

It might have helped if you read my original post which states that:
1. It's my first dentist visit in CH so I didn't have others to compare to and...
2. ...I had actually researched the "information on this forum surrounding Swiss dentists" and the practice I went to was actually recommended by some people here.

I do agree with you though, it was an expensive lesson to learn and yes, I should have opened my mouth even wider than it already was sitting in the chair and ask what's going on. I can imagine it could have also been a matter of miscommunication between the dental hygienist and the doctor, I could actually swing by and ask.
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Well, that's a very unhelpful post mr Dog

It might have helped if you read my original post which states that:
1. It's my first dentist visit in CH so I didn't have others to compare to and...
2. ...I had actually researched the "information on this forum surrounding Swiss dentists" and the practice I went to was actually recommended by some people here.

I do agree with you though, it was an expensive lesson to learn and yes, I should have opened my mouth even wider than it already was sitting in the chair and ask what's going on. I can imagine it could have also been a matter of miscommunication between the dental hygienist and the doctor, I could actually swing by and ask.
I didn't mean previous visits to dentists in CH, I mean other visits to any dentists that would give you an idea of how the general dentistry process works. It's not like every modern Western country has wildly varying different styles of dentistry. One initial check-up with X-rays, job done. One visit to the hygienist, job done. Another visit for an initial check-up that repeats exactly what you had before... oops, doesn't seem normal does it?

Go by and talk to them and prepare a good list of your concerns and the reasons behind them, it's by far the most effective way of finding out why they did it. Maybe then they will admit a mistake and reduce the bill. Otherwise, I believe there are dentist regulatory bodies you can submit a complaint to.
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Re: Cost of dentists in Switzerland

Well to be completely honest I don't think they "did it on purpose". I chalk it up to either being super thorough or miscommunication or both, but I exclude any wrong intention. As mentioned before they were very professional and the doctor seems to have a ton of experience, diplomas etc, but maybe it's too much in my case where I need pretty standard work.

So I might go by and ask, but any further actions (complaints to ...) are out of the question.
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So just a quick update, I went by and asked and it's their standard practice that the doc checks everything himself (which again, he did, and was very thorough). In this case for myself the conclusion is clear, although I actually found all appointments very professional, I cannot afford this doctor so I shall look for a more affordable one.
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So just a quick update, I went by and asked and it's their standard practice that the doc checks everything himself (which again, he did, and was very thorough). In this case for myself the conclusion is clear, although I actually found all appointments very professional, I cannot afford this doctor so I shall look for a more affordable one.
No-one is questioning the professionalism with which your appointments were carried out at the time, but from your posts you have clearly paid a significant amount of money for work that simply did not need to be repeated or even done in the first place (photos of each tooth, really?), and that isn't even including any of the "urgent work" they identified that actually did need doing.

However you want to justify it to yourself to make it easier to deal with is of course down to you, but you did still undoubtedly get shafted and taken advantage of.
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Unless you are a smoker...in which case your teeth probably needed a really really really good clean...
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Unless you are a smoker...in which case your teeth probably needed a really really really good clean...
On that note and following on from my post above, I had my teeth cleaned yesterday for the first time in 8 years or so of smoking and general life, not very proud of the fact. They took an hour and there is another session to go. During the second appointment the dentist will do his x-rays and evaluation. So 130 for the first clean, don't know about the second appointment yet.
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any1 knows dentist contact info in germany near swiss border ? pls share wt me abt contact info because i need to take out my wisdom teeth

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i got mine done for 130chf

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Do you guys know what is the normal price of teeth/dental cleaning (I think it should be Zahnsteinentfernung in German)?

I know it's expensive but it's time to do it. And do you know where is a cheap dentist in Zurich and who can do it without pain?
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any1 knows dentist contact info in germany near swiss border ? pls share wt me abt contact info because i need to take out my wisdom teeth

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I went here and can recommend.

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