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Re: Cost of dentists in Switzerland

Ouch! I got mine taken out along time ago in Australia. It was a painful disaster. Go to a dentist in Zürich and don't try to get a cheapie German job
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any1 knows dentist contact info in germany near swiss border ? pls share wt me abt contact info because i need to take out my wisdom teeth

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Re: Cost of dentists in Switzerland

Are you talking about the cost of a dentist or of a dental hygienist? In CH one can go to a dedicated Dental Hygienist Praxis. Here is a list: http://www.dentalhygienists.swiss/pa...ygiene-praxen/

They will tell you if they recommend a DDS for a filling. Call and find prices. Also, make sure that the DH does "deep scaling" as part of the cleaning. Otherwise, teeth cleaning in CH tends to be superficial. It may not hurt, but it is also not doing the full job.

If it hurts when you get your teeth cleaned it may be for several reasons: you have gingivitis (or worse, periodontitis) from not flossing; you have exposed root surfaces which are sensitive. If your gums are healthy, getting your teeth cleaned is rarely painful.

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Ouch! I got mine taken out along time ago in Australia. It was a painful disaster. Go to a dentist in Zürich and don't try to get a cheapie German job
LOL like the only good dentists/surgeons exist in Switzerland.
There’s nothing “cheapie” in German pricing, just reasonable
500chf for an uncomplicated extraction vs <200eur with 3 follow-ups; I’ll take the second one thanks.
Depends on the case of course, no point in generalizing.


For dental hygiene - I highly recommend going to a proper hygienist in CH - totally worth it.
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Re: Cost of dentists in Switzerland

dbucar: "I went here and can recommend.

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Prices, please? I checked the link, but this topic's not there.

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dbucar: "I went here and can recommend.

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Prices, please? I checked the link, but this topic's not there.
All depends on what needs to be done, how, and how long it takes/difficult it is.

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All depends on what needs to be done, how, and how long it takes/difficult it is.

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Read dbucar's price explanation after i posted my question.
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Re: Cost of dentists in Switzerland

Yes. Around 1 hour work for routine clean. Average price 130 CHF more or less. With Xrays naturally more. If its your first visit they will want to do Xrays.
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LOL like the only good dentists/surgeons exist in Switzerland.
There’s nothing “cheapie” in German pricing, just reasonable
500chf for an uncomplicated extraction vs <200eur with 3 follow-ups; I’ll take the second one thanks.
Depends on the case of course, no point in generalizing.


For dental hygiene - I highly recommend going to a proper hygienist in CH - totally worth it.
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500chf for an uncomplicated extraction vs <200eur with 3 follow-ups; I’ll take the second one thanks.
Depends on the case of course, no point in generalizing.
Exactly, and nowhere in Switzerland will you ever have to pay CHF500 for an uncomplicated extraction. I did that kind of things for 40 years.
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Exactly, and nowhere in Switzerland will you ever have to pay CHF500 for an uncomplicated extraction. I did that kind of things for 40 years.
That was the "expected price" I got at Basel SBB Zahnarztzentrum - enough to decide not to do it there.
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Re: Cost of dentists in Switzerland

Look. I don't do it for everyone -but here is the best in Zürich and the fairest.



http://www.zahnaerztehoengg.ch/mob/?lang=de&ref=#p1

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That was the "expected price" I got at Basel SBB Zahnarztzentrum - enough to decide not to do it there.
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Exactly, and nowhere in Switzerland will you ever have to pay CHF500 for an uncomplicated extraction. I did that kind of things for 40 years.
As Captain Greybeard said the SSO pricing system will NEVER come to CHF500 for an uncomplicated extraction. It is simply not possible to get there if you truly follow the guidelines.

Knowing both the German and the Swiss (SSO) pricing, I have wondered why so many people go to Germany for dental service, particularly at the dental practices at the border who often have the highest prices. We know several stories of patients being grossly overcharged at such practices, with shoddy work being done to boot. But over the last year we have also heard several stories from new patients of gross-overcharging by our Swiss dentist colleagues, even those that are (supposedly) following the SSO pricing. Between unnecessary procedures (for example, one patient came in for a second opinion after the first dentist told her she had 11 caries; she had only 2) and adding positions to the bill that should not be added for the work being done, I can fully understand why people would be once-bitten-twice-shy going again to a Swiss dentist. Yet, you can be grossly overcharged by a German dentist as well and I can give you a dozen examples of exactly that.

Finally, don't forget that buying dental services is very different from buying a tomato (a product). We had a patient come in with 5 implants he got cheaply in Hungary. Ok, great, congratulations for the 5 cheap implants, but what now? The surgeon that put the implants didn't do any prosthodontic treatment planning - he was just putting as many implants as he could. So out of the 5 implants only 2 could be used ... until it turned out it was a proprietary implant system from a small company - you can't put a crown on the implant if you don't have their prosthodontic set. Ultimately we found a solution, but it included some treatment compromises. So did the patient get a good deal? If your focus is on the cost of an individual implant, then yes. But if you consider the full therapy and a time horizon, absolutely not. An implant should last a long time, if manufactured and coated properly. Although there is no surety that the no-name implant will fail, there is certainly no scientific studies to back it up. And an implant should only be placed where it is required by the prosthodontic treatment planning - it is of no use on its own. Thus getting 5 implants when you only need 2 is a waste - unlike with products, getting more isn't better in this case. The patient would have actually paid less for 2 known-brand implants here with us than for the 5 no-brand implants he got in Hungary.

As stated in many prior posts, one needs to do some research on a healhcare provider whether they are in Germany or in Switzerland. This forum really helps in this regard, as people can share their good (or not so good) experiences with different providers and (hopefully) thus weed-out the bad ones over time.
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Re: Cost of dentists in Switzerland

I’m not sure if they speak English as we converse in Deutsch (of a sort) but for those in Basel, I recommend Praxis Kadent. I am a very nervous patient but they are extremely gentle and offer oral sedatives if necessary. I have found their prices reasonable and less than their initial quotes.

I had all 4 wisdom teeth out last year - this was very quick and near painless (even the injections didn’t hurt). Cost was I think 1800 CHF (2 were complex extractions and required some bone removal first). This included x-ray and follow-up. My supplemental health insurance paid half.
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Finally, don't forget that buying dental services is very different from buying a tomato (a product). We had a patient come in with 5 implants he got cheaply in Hungary. Ok, great, congratulations for the 5 cheap implants, but what now? The surgeon that put the implants didn't do any prosthodontic treatment planning - he was just putting as many implants as he could. So out of the 5 implants only 2 could be used ... until it turned out it was a proprietary implant system from a small company - you can't put a crown on the implant if you don't have their prosthodontic set. Ultimately we found a solution, but it included some treatment compromises. So did the patient get a good deal? If your focus is on the cost of an individual implant, then yes. But if you consider the full therapy and a time horizon, absolutely not. An implant should last a long time, if manufactured and coated properly. Although there is no surety that the no-name implant will fail, there is certainly no scientific studies to back it up. And an implant should only be placed where it is required by the prosthodontic treatment planning - it is of no use on its own. Thus getting 5 implants when you only need 2 is a waste - unlike with products, getting more isn't better in this case. The patient would have actually paid less for 2 known-brand implants here with us than for the 5 no-brand implants he got in Hungary.

As stated in many prior posts, one needs to do some research on a healhcare provider whether they are in Germany or in Switzerland. This forum really helps in this regard, as people can share their good (or not so good) experiences with different providers and (hopefully) thus weed-out the bad ones over time.
I agree with you here but don't agree when people affirm they know for sure that some Swiss dentists are charging unjustified fees. (it was a post about Invisalign for instance) The truth is some treatments are very expensive if done correctly to the smallest detail and with the best materials. I don't like when people are advised to give up a good dentist because someone somewhere might or could, allegedly, do it for a cheaper price.
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Re: Cost of dentists in Switzerland

Yes its no problem giving out 60 K for a new car.
But 10 K for new teeth! Peoples priorities are confused
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I agree with you here but don't agree when people affirm they know for sure that some Swiss dentists are charging unjustified fees. (it was a post about Invisalign for instance) The truth is some treatments are very expensive if done correctly to the smallest detail and with the best materials. I don't like when people are advised to give up a good dentist because someone somewhere might or could, allegedly, do it for a cheaper price.
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Yes its no problem giving out 60 K for a new car.
But 10 K for new teeth! Peoples priorities are confused
Yep. Invest in a car 'cause the Jones will be green with envy....forget about your teeth!
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Don't forget-it's the smile that's the winner
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Do you guys know what is the normal price of teeth/dental cleaning (I think it should be Zahnsteinentfernung in German)?

I know it's expensive but it's time to do it. And do you know where is a cheap dentist in Zurich and who can do it without pain?
I paid 130 at bellevue
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Re: Cost of dentists in Switzerland

Thanks for info 👍🏼😉


QUOTE=dbucar;2892770]I went here and can recommend.

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Re: Cost of dentists in Switzerland

I received a notice about a new post to this thread, and came over to take a look.

I will join in on the cautionary warning of going cheap or crossing the immediate border for dental treatment.

I've been having some treatment done on teeth that were worked on when I lived in Switzerland (before I found the best dentist I've ever had, in Basel) - and all of the work done on them was terrible. I've lost two of them, two have broken almost irreparably, and generally not great work.

Pay a little extra if you can afford to - a good dentist and your teeth are worth their weight in gold.
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...I've been having some treatment done on teeth that were worked on when I lived in Switzerland (before I found the best dentist I've ever had, in Basel) - and all of the work done on them was terrible. I've lost two of them, two have broken almost irreparably, and generally not great work.

Pay a little extra if you can afford to - a good dentist and your teeth are worth their weight in gold.
Quality in dentistry is not always apparent quickly to many people. Sure, a bad bridge or poorly polished filling on a front tooth are pretty apparent and their quality can be immediately assessed, but that is not the case with most dental services. For example, let's take a poorly fitted crown that has a medium gap to the gumline. You can't see it, but food will get in there and over time lead to gum problems, bone loss and unpleasant odor.

Thus quality in dentistry is often revealed better over-time and initial perception can be misleading. Let me give you another somewhat recent example from our dental practice; this is a real story, not made up.

A Swiss female patient with a fistula from an inflammation of a root canal (already existing root canal treatment done by some dentist some time ago). My wife recommends a surgery to cut off the infected root tip, put a filling to close off the rest of the tooth, and put a crown on the tooth. All in all the offer is for 1300 CHF. The patient says she will think about it and call back.

About a month or so later, the patient calls back and tells my wife she went in for a second opinion with a proper German male dentist. That dentist told her that such a surgery to cut off the tip of the root is science fiction and that if this was done she would die from it if she were to get into an accident. Even if it could be done, the tooth will only last her maximum of 8 years. What she really needed, he allegedly said, was for the tooth to be removed and replaced with an implant and a crown. He guarantees her that the implant will last her a lifetime. And he must have spoken really authoritatively, as she agreed and paid 4800 euros for the procedure. And on the phone accused my wife of putting her in mortal danger with such operation.

Unfortunately the dentist in this case played on this person's trustful nature. Had the patient done even a simple search online she would have seen that not only isn't the suggested surgery on the root-tip science fiction, but that it even has a name - apicoectomy. Not only that, but it is a surgery with a quick recovery - a minor swelling perhaps that goes away in 1-2 days. She could have further asked the dentist to provide more specifics/explain as to how she could die after such surgery if she were to have an accident ... many accidents can be pretty lethal and have nothing to do with whether you've had apicoectomy or not. Finally, she could have searched online for implant failures and asked the dentist how he can make a guarantee that nobody in the world can. Had she done just one of these, she would have still had her own tooth and a few francs to boot.

We happen to know the dentist. He is an implant surgeon by training, so he pushes everybody for implants. He uses cheap, no-brand implants, which is likely why his failure rate with implants is higher than usual. And his prosthodontics planning and work happens to be also poor. The supposed guarantees are verbal and never honored. What he does in these cases when things turn ugly is he simply becomes unavailable. Suddenly appointments are only available 4-5 months ahead and cancelled the day an appointment finally comes. He counts that by then the patient would have either gone to somebody else who would have done the work properly and would not want to waste any more time and money to go to court, particularly in another country.

So, who in this case is offering the quality dentistry? Sadly, the patient in this case, at this vary moment, may have a conclusion that she will very likely change as time passes ...
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