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Old 11.11.2018, 16:10
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CBD oil / Snake oil ?

Any of you into CBD oil or other CDB products? (legal)

Shops are springing up all over and many big name athletes and celebs are starting to sing its praises for treating everything from autism to anxiety to aches and pains to cancer.

I use a site called ConsumerLab to read the science on things like this and it looks kinda placebo to me, at least in the doses available.

What do you think? Love it? Hate it? Tried it?

I've never been a pot smoker but i love the smell .. and hey, I have constant aches and pains from exercise. I would try it if i found a decent price source.
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Old 11.11.2018, 16:13
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Re: CBD oil / Snake oil ?

I can't stand the smell.

For people with chronic pain, if it works... great.
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Old 11.11.2018, 17:13
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I would try it if i found a decent price source.
Then do that and discover for yourself. It's the only way that you'll ever really know.

Personally, I think it may take a generation to break the stigma surrounding cannabis, and almost a century of propoganda against it's use. Until then, sceptics will always be sceptics. Just remember this, before the mid 1920's, cannabis was commonly used for aleviating pain, even the pain of child birth.
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Re: CBD oil / Snake oil ?

Without the THC I think it is a bit of snake oil.

But try it, you may like it.
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Old 12.11.2018, 11:24
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Re: CBD oil / Snake oil ?

There is some proof behind it - cancer sites tend to be a good source of information, though no proof it cures cancer there is evidence it helps with symptoms including pain - see here
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Old 12.11.2018, 14:41
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Re: CBD oil / Snake oil ?

I don't have anything specifically wrong with me.. Just kinda interested in the wide range of reported advantages from better sleep, reduced aches, less stress etc.. None of which I have in abundance.

I geuss I would like somebody to come and say - hey i know this shop where you can get it cheaper than 60.- for a 10ml bottle!
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Old 12.11.2018, 14:58
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Any of you into CBD oil or other CDB products? (legal)

Shops are springing up all over and many big name athletes and celebs are starting to sing its praises for treating everything from autism to anxiety to aches and pains to cancer.
That's a reason to be totally skeptical.
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Old 12.11.2018, 15:34
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... though no proof it cures cancer there is evidence it helps with symptoms including pain - see here
It's a pain surpressant, but the main advantages are that it combats nausea and loss of appetite, which is a huge help to any patients that need to keep their strength up, regardless of their condition/ailment.

CBD oil gives most of the benefits of cannabis, but allows the person to fully function as opposed to becoming stoned/high.
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Re: CBD oil / Snake oil ?

Marryjane.ch sell legal CBD products including oil via branches (around 6 in Swiss) or via phone / online.

It looks a professional set up and reasonable prices.
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Old 12.11.2018, 21:53
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Re: CBD oil / Snake oil ?

CBD has a very strong taste and aftertaste! Some of the edibles made with mj - like space cookies, etc. - that I have tried, didn't taste as strong at all. So when you see movies with people getting high without knowing - well, it is plausible, because sometimes you can't tell there's marijuana in them. I don't smoke, but the smoke smells to me somewhat like skunk spray.

I once made my own mj butter (ghee plus regular mj) and the final product had a strong smell, mild taste, and was a bit spicy/irritating.

The thick CBD/THC oil you might see online (not sure if it's available here) is sticky and waxy, and tastes just as gross as the other CBD oil that is available here.

If you go into any shop that sells it, ask if they have smaller quantities. If all fails, I have some on my shelf here.
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Old 12.11.2018, 22:16
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Re: CBD oil / Snake oil ?

I have no problem with the stigma.
I'd say once your pain is at a level where you'd need constant medication anyway, you could just as well try that.

This is probably more true for older people or people with any kind of illness where all other options of therapy have been exhausted.
At that point, who cares anyway?

I'm not in favor of all the stuff being available in shops - but doctors should be able to prescribe this with the same level of red-tape as e.g. Codein drops.

I still haven't figured out if CDB has 100% the same effects on health and well-being as THC, but without the side-effects - or if THC is still better (from a medical point of view).
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... - cancer sites tend to be a good source of information, though no proof it cures cancer there is evidence ...[/URL]
Is that peer reviewed and reproducible double blind studies, or a collection of anecdotes?

I'm neither for nor against any cannabis products, but I'd like to see science instead of opinions...
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Is that peer reviewed and reproducible double blind studies, or a collection of anecdotes?

I'm neither for nor against any cannabis products, but I'd like to see science instead of opinions...
The site I linked to is the US government cancer website and whilst it doesn't list any studies, it does state that it is FDA approved adjuvant use with chemotherapy to treat pain and nausea but not to treat cancer.

I would hope that the FDA would require the type of testing that you suggest.
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Re: CBD oil / Snake oil ?

I have friends in the US who use it for chronic pain and swear by it. Obviously not a scientific sample but these folks deal with chronic pain on a daily basis. If it makes them feel better, then ok.


When my mom was dying of cancer in 1990/1991, she had something called marinol to encourage appetite. It didn‘t help her, and the real stuff seems to work better. Marinol is synthetic thc, and has been around from the 80s.

Info on that
https://www.royalqueenseeds.com/blog...-cannabis-n579
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Re: CBD oil / Snake oil ?

There're many shops who sell CBD oil, you also can find it at the pharmacy for Fr.49.-/10 ml

For my patients I sell CBD oil 5%/10 ml for Fr. 30.- (I don't make any profit on this), you can grow the plant yourself and make a tincture, works the same and is much cheaper.
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For my patients I sell CBD oil 5%/10 ml for Fr. 30.- (I don't make any profit on this), you can grow the plant yourself and make a tincture, works the same and is much cheaper.
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Ah sorry, it´s your interest (need more coffee)
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Re: CBD oil / Snake oil ?

I have some friends who swear by CBD oil (that it helps with their anxiety, pain, etc.). I tried it for the first time a few months ago in the form of some Swiss CBD gum that I came across at an Apotheke. It gave me an awful headache and made me feel really strange and disoriented. I later read that some people do have adverse reactions to it.
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Re: CBD oil / Snake oil ?

Giving this thread a bump. My physiotherapist has recommended CBD cream for inflammation and pain. Anyone used the cream instead of oil? Does it smell bad? Does it work?

The pharmacy says it's 38 Francs for a small tube, which is kind of a lot to just try and see.
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