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Both parents sick with gastro, help at home needed.

I hope I can find some help/info here.

My 4yo has gastro, it was so bad he ended up in hospital for 24h. My husband stayed there with him and I stayed home with our 4 month old baby.

They came home and you guessed it, my husband is now with gastro, 39.5c fever and all the yummie goodies that come with gastro.

Despite being overly careful, I'm now getting symptoms of having gastro myself. I had it a year ago and I seriously thought I'd die.

Now that husband is with bad gastro and I'm about to hit it myself, how can we take care of our kids, especially the baby? We have no family or similar network here and quite frankly, who would want to come to help when the risk of getting it is so high...

Is there a nurse service or anything similar we could use the help out if we're both bed ridden? And how on earth can I protect the baby from getting it (I'm breastfeeding)? 128532;

What a Christmas holiday this turned out to be...
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I hope I can find some help/info here.

My 4yo has gastro, it was so bad he ended up in hospital for 24h. My husband stayed there with him and I stayed home with our 4 month old baby.

They came home and you guessed it, my husband is now with gastro, 39.5c fever and all the yummie goodies that come with gastro.

Despite being overly careful, I'm now getting symptoms of having gastro myself. I had it a year ago and I seriously thought I'd die.

Now that husband is with bad gastro and I'm about to hit it myself, how can we take care of our kids, especially the baby? We have no family or similar network here and quite frankly, who would want to come to help when the risk of getting it is so high...

Is there a nurse service or anything similar we could use the help out if we're both bed ridden? And how on earth can I protect the baby from getting it (I'm breastfeeding)? 128532;

What a Christmas holiday this turned out to be...
https://www.englishforum.ch/family-m...tter-list.html

This is an old link but the orgs are still valid. They are emergency babysitting.

Unlikely but check your health insurance also. We get 40 hours per year babysitting free if parents are sick and unable to care.
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You could try contacting the Swiss Red Cross. I know they do cover some emergency situations.

https://www.redcross.ch/fr/integrati...t-aux-familles
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Re: Both parents sick with gastro, help at home needed.

Aw no! Get-well-soon wishes to your husband and the 4yo, and here's hoping yours doesn't develop into a full-blown case after all.

I've never had to use them yet (knock on wood) but the Red Cross have an emergency childcare service for precisely this sort of situation.

For the littlest: keep breastfeeding, it's the very best thing you can do. I had an awful stomach bug earlier this year, couldn't keep even water down during the worst of it... and my bf baby escaped unscathed. I mean, there's no guarantee it'll always work - but that's what happened to us.
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Re: Both parents sick with gastro, help at home needed.

During holidays, our Paediatrician puts an answering machine message for the emergency doctor's advice line. In Zurich, there is a helpline where they can give basic health advice and then recommend either the hospital or a paediatrician 'on call'. For sick adults, I would do the same - call your family doctor and if they are not available, there should be an answering service to find a doctor 'on call'.


And as others have said, the red cross does have an emergency help system as well.


Best of luck. Drink plenty of fluids and keep on breastfeeding - your baby won't catch it from your milk. Your milk has antibodies for the illness and typically they won't catch it - my 18 month old got nasty nasty E.Coli when he was around 18 months and we had to go to emergency (he lost more than 10% of his bodyweight in 5 days) and they told me the only reason he was not going to be admitted was breastfeeding - if he was not breastfed they would have had to put him on a drip because formula-fed babies can't be fed formula when they have severe gastro. they need rehydration via the drip, whereas even though he was vomiting with every feed, he was still well-hydrated because the breastmilk has all these other things in it that help...
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you're near the ikea? send me a message, I'm not too far away and nothing to do, experience with kids (have 2 of my own)
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What's gastro?

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gastroenteritis ie, you puke your brains out or have the runs or a combo of both.
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Something to do with food, but probably not how you think about it.
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Something to do with food, but probably not how you think about it.
This is what comes to my mind:



http://www.gastroticino.ch/

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Re: Both parents sick with gastro, help at home needed.

I remember when my wife and I and our three young kids contracted norovirus one January. It wasn't pretty but somehow we managed to keep them and ourselves reasonably clean.
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Re: Both parents sick with gastro, help at home needed.

Make sure you have some oral electrolyte solution like Care Plus or other brands you can ask in a pharmacy.
It's horrible especially when you have a sick kid but for us adults is nowhere as dangerous as for the little ones who must be rehydrated intravenously.

Best wishes OP, it will be over in couple of days. We too had a bug like this a few years ago with my daughter.

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... nowhere as dangerous as for the little ones who must might have to be rehydrated intravenously.
Might, surely, not must? Depends on severity, and definitely something to watch out for. If the baby is under 6 months, then you should really consult a doctor pretty quickly.

Gastroenteritis just means inflammation of the gut. I could be caused by anything (norovirus is the prime candidate at this time of year).
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Might, surely, not must? Depends on severity, and definitely something to watch out for. If the baby is under 6 months, then you should really consult a doctor pretty quickly.

Gastroenteritis just means inflammation of the gut. I could be caused by anything (norovirus is the prime candidate at this time of year).
Theoretically - you're right. But even older than 6 months, young children (especially toddlers) tend to dehydrate pretty fast. That is not the only bug btw. After episodes of vomiting etc if he kid becomes lethargic and not the usual active self you really need to take him or her to an emergency room. I mean, I just would't risk to treat something like this at home.

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Re: Both parents sick with gastro, help at home needed.

Not sure why this thread has gone off on a tangent. It's quite clear that the parent has already taken the older child to the hospital due to the severity of the illness, which quite likely is a virus given the way it has now passed to the parents. And there was no question of taking the baby to the doctor if needed - any I already gave details of how she might contact a doctor given the holiday period. And yes, it can be life-threatening for adults too, but far more dangerous in a 4 month old, and it's one of the 'classic' situations where the baby is much better off if breastfed, but the mother may have difficulty feeding if she is also very unwell or dehydrated, or she might be told that the baby will 'catch' it through her breastmilk (which is not true)....I've breastfed sick babies, I've breastfed them when I was unwell... been there, done that....any yes, lethargy is a classic sign of very unwell babies...
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Not sure why this thread has gone off on a tangent. It's quite clear that the parent has already taken the older child to the hospital due to the severity of the illness, which quite likely is a virus given the way it has now passed to the parents. And there was no question of taking the baby to the doctor if needed - any I already gave details of how she might contact a doctor given the holiday period. And yes, it can be life-threatening for adults too, but far more dangerous in a 4 month old, and it's one of the 'classic' situations where the baby is much better off if breastfed, but the mother may have difficulty feeding if she is also very unwell or dehydrated, or she might be told that the baby will 'catch' it through her breastmilk (which is not true)....I've breastfed sick babies, I've breastfed them when I was unwell... been there, done that....any yes, lethargy is a classic sign of very unwell babies...
So we're all basically saying the same things. Not really off on a tangent, is it.

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OP. How do you guys feel now? Everything OK?
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Old 27.12.2018, 14:29
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Re: Both parents sick with gastro, help at home needed.

I haven't been able to post an update as I've had my hands pretty full, understandably.

I would like to thank you all so so much for your messages. I'm happy that clearly there are options in case both of the parents are sick and can't take care of the kids.

I'm only with some fever and the little baby is doing fine. I keep breastfeeding her as usual, hoping it protects her in some ways.

The 4yo boy is able to keep a little bit of food down and can drink, as well. He still has some recovering to do, for sure. Poor kid. He mostly wants to stay in mummy's armpit or hold hands at the moment. Christmas presents are still waiting to be played with.

The bigger boy (husband), is still pretty sick and his only activity is walking between the bathroom and bed. He's pretty shocked that he's still so sick, usually he's the person keeping the boat afloat when everyone else get sick around him. Not this time.

So, all in all, we're sort of alright as I can keep going and take care of the whole lot.

Let's hope it keeps this way and that we can start the New Year with a healthier family.
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Not sure why this thread has gone off on a tangent. It's quite clear that the parent has already taken the older child to the hospital due to the severity of the illness, which quite likely is a virus given the way it has now passed to the parents. And there was no question of taking the baby to the doctor if needed - any I already gave details of how she might contact a doctor given the holiday period. And yes, it can be life-threatening for adults too, but far more dangerous in a 4 month old, and it's one of the 'classic' situations where the baby is much better off if breastfed, but the mother may have difficulty feeding if she is also very unwell or dehydrated, or she might be told that the baby will 'catch' it through her breastmilk (which is not true)....I've breastfed sick babies, I've breastfed them when I was unwell... been there, done that....any yes, lethargy is a classic sign of very unwell babies...
Yep, spot on. The 4yo was in such a bad shape as he started first with 4 days of diarrhoea (he saw a doctor) before he started vomiting every 5-15 minutes all through the night. We then called the phone number for such cases and the nurse told us to take him to the hospital right away as his symptoms were so severe. And there he stayed for 24 hours as his condition took a turn to worse (his potassium levels crashed so it affected how his heart was behaving) before stabilising.

When I had a similar bug, I was vomiting for 7 days. Seven. Non stop. Went in and out of hospital. If it is a tough bug for an adult, imagine a little kid. This is why I was so worried about my 4 month old baby, too. The only reason why I'd ever stop breastfeeding her would be if I was too sick to do so. I am hoping my antibodies keep her safe. And if she ever showed any signs of this bug, we'd run to the hospital/doctor immediately. I wouldn't wait around for too long with such a tiny little one.
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So, all in all, we're sort of alright as I can keep going and take care of the whole lot.

Let's hope it keeps this way and that we can start the New Year with a healthier family.
It's good that at least one of you is able to take care of the rest. Fingers crossed that the bug won't affect all of you.

I wish your loved ones a speedy recovery and a good start in the New Year!
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