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I'm revisiting as I"m about to have a conversation with the Kita here.












Somthing I've noticed about the Swiss System (seems more and more backwards the more I learn) - is that they don't teach Kindness or being Nice. The other day, my child came home I told me the the kids at his Kita in his gruppe (3 to 4 year olds) are saying "you're not my friend so you can't play with us". As kids they don't do it grudingly, its a one-off per activity event but it's not a nice thing to say and it appears the "Staff" don't respond to that by informing the kid its not nice.




and hense where the bullying start. Sometimes, our 3.5 year old will say something that's not nice - he's saying what's on his mind (ah the innocence) and to those who don't remember he's a 3.5 year old, they can be insulted - hell he'll annoy the hell out of me sometimes. But, something we DO ..in MY household is we do teach Empathy or Re-enforce it vis a vis Books and talking about a situation. For example we read him a book called "Be Kind" - about a little girl who spilt pain on her self and how another little girl was trying make her feel better (short summary), the Whale and the Snail etc.


I don't think the staff teach on this topic - yes they do letters, weather, etc. but it is a very important topic. Whist in the US this past week, I spoke to some friends and the US is advancing here (they're nipping bullying when it happens and its in the spotlight news wise), not to meniton how connected I felt with seeing other Fathers so engaged with their children (that's anohter topic). They are talking to their kids about bullying, about being kind, about sharing and about being nice...I don't see that here.


So - just a note, I will raise to my Kita - its odd, that I"m not a PhD in Child Develpment/Raising but I think I know alot more that these so called "experts" at the Kita. (cause I freaking READ!). I'll probably piss them off. but anybody feel the same.....does the school systtem here teach emphathy, kindness,?? do parents?
These days kindness is seen as a weakness. Where do the children learn that?
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Old 27.09.2019, 10:26
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Its called shock therapy. Can be quite helpful in cases like yours
What could help in your case?

A permanent ban, maybe? You constantly failed to redeem yourself despite numerous attempts of reconciliation with most EF members.
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Old 27.09.2019, 11:02
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Fact is that he wrote it and it shows a disturbed mind to even lie about that in multiple posts. There is a risk imo.



Does it ?


Or does it show Parkadam just wound us up really nicely and we all fell for it ?
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Old 27.09.2019, 11:07
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Or does it show Parkadam just wound us up really nicely and we all fell for it ?
Wait... are you saying that someone winding us up about beating their children, when they are long-term members and do actually have children, isn't disturbing just because it's a wind-up? If I 'wind you up' about something traumatic in a serious and believable manner for multiple posts until the point everyone believes me isn't disturbing because... it's a wind-up?

Not sure I quite get your logic.

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Old 27.09.2019, 11:28
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Wait... are you saying that someone winding us up about beating their children, when they are long-term members and do actually have children, isn't disturbing just because it's a wind-up? If I 'wind you up' about something traumatic in a serious and believable manner for multiple posts until the point everyone believes me isn't disturbing because... it's a wind-up?

Not sure I quite get your logic.

In all honesty I think they were looking at getting a reaction.



Sounds a bit like Parkadam is well bored with live and decided to have a piss-take
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Old 27.09.2019, 11:39
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In all honesty I think they were looking at getting a reaction.



Sounds a bit like Parkadam is well bored with live and decided to have a piss-take

If so, very bad choice. IŽd rather say trolling as some things I think you do not joke about. But then, hey, next time he will be reported to the police and maybe we will hear how much fun that was.
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Old 27.09.2019, 11:42
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If so, very bad choice. IŽd rather say trolling as some things I think you do not joke about. But then, hey, next time he will be reported to the police and maybe we will hear how much fun that was.
Now we know that direct action by members is necessary, that's exactly what will happen.

Good to have it clarified.
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I bet he's a barrel of laughs at airport security, too. Joshing that he's armed to the teeth and sporting the latest fashion in suicide vests as he skips through the scanner.
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Old 27.09.2019, 13:08
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I bet he's a barrel of laughs at airport security, too. Joshing that he's armed to the teeth and sporting the latest fashion in suicide vests as he skips through the scanner.
Yeh but if only 3 people report him for that then no action will be taken. They need at least 500 people to report him before airport security would give a crap
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Old 27.09.2019, 13:23
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Yeh but if only 3 people report him for that then no action will be taken.
No. And especially if, when asked, he says that it was "just talk". From then on, the threatening things he declared are nullified, they are just a joke, and anyone who doesn't find it funny misses the point of his humour, and and those who aren't smart enough to see that there really is no cause for alarm are just... snowflakes.

To clarify: the above is written in bitter sarcasm. That is, sadly, what seems to be happening here, though.

The English Forum has many, many good sides. There is a great deal of good going on in the threads, and also behind the scenes as people rally to help others, and that's why I'm here and grateful for the existance of this forum. But the handling of this matter, which includes the potential need to protect a 3-year-old, is a dark, low point in the Forum.
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Old 27.09.2019, 14:40
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No. And especially if, when asked, he says that it was "just talk". From then on, the threatening things he declared are nullified, they are just a joke, and anyone who doesn't find it funny misses the point of his humour, and and those who aren't smart enough to see that there really is no cause for alarm are just... snowflakes.

To clarify: the above is written in bitter sarcasm. That is, sadly, what seems to be happening here, though.

The English Forum has many, many good sides. There is a great deal of good going on in the threads, and also behind the scenes as people rally to help others, and that's why I'm here and grateful for the existance of this forum. But the handling of this matter, which includes the potential need to protect a 3-year-old, is a dark, low point in the Forum.
I think this forum has always had some issues that I personally was aware of and didn't like, but most of the time I ended up being amused or just ignoring or forgetting about them. You are right, the (part of, at least) EF community can be real sweet too. I got to appreciate and like quite a lot of people who are part of this online community. I think that's why I stayed here so long.
Unfortunately I've (kind of) lost my patience and my tolerance for all these "games". I don't know why some people write all sorts of stuff. It's probably the perceived lack of accountability at fault, or for them EF is just a place to vent/provoke and find it safe to do so. Would they have these conversations in real life, apart from their circle of friends and in a private environment, and maybe not even then? I don't think that many would do...or maybe that is a wishful thinking.. At the end of the day, it's probably better to stay away from this stuff. It just became too much to digest/process/accept/find anything useful or amusing about it.
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Old 27.09.2019, 14:50
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Airport security is real, internet forums are not.

Just saying.

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P.S. I, on the other hand, never write anything here that is not factual, or that I would not say to someone's face. Also just saying.

P.P.S. Except for posting memes, memes may or may not ne factual. FFS, they are MEMES!
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P.S. I, on the other hand, never write anything here that is not factual, or that I would not say to someone's face. Also just saying.
Can we please just clarify that statement to:

"I, on the other hand, never write anything here that I BELIEVE is not factual,"

You are one of those people who talk the most untrue, delude and/or exaggerated BS on the entire forum and the most hilarious thing is how seriously you take yourself. You're an unwitting comedy act since years now.
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I think this forum has always had some issues that I personally was aware of and didn't like, but most of the time I ended up being amused or just ignoring or forgetting about them. You are right, the (part of, at least) EF community can be real sweet too. I got to appreciate and like quite a lot of people who are part of this online community. I think that's why I stayed here so long.
Unfortunately I've (kind of) lost my patience and my tolerance for all these "games". I don't know why some people write all sorts of stuff. It's probably the perceived lack of accountability at fault, or for them EF is just a place to vent/provoke and find it safe to do so. Would they have these conversations in real life, apart from their circle of friends and in a private environment, and maybe not even then? I don't think that many would do...or maybe that is a wishful thinking.. At the end of the day, it's probably better to stay away from this stuff. It just became too much to digest/process/accept/find anything useful or amusing about it.



It's pure provocation just to get a reaction !


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