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Re: Hyphenated last name for CH-born baby

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But shouldn't it be "MYNAME-MyWIFE'NAME"?

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Why?

It should be the same as their other child so whatever order of surnames they chose for that one will be what’s used for this one.

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But shouldn't it be "MYNAME-MyWIFE'NAME"?
It could be. But it isn't. It all comes down to how committed the couple is to smashing the patriarchy. That, and how the two names sound combined.
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Old 28.01.2019, 16:07
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It all comes down to how committed the couple is to smashing the patriarchy.
What's wrong with patriarchy?

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Re: Hyphenated last name for CH-born baby

Made a quick survey on the thread, which seems to be a little extra flammable for some reason.

If the child is not Swiss, you are more or less in luck - as long as the country of origin of the father, or the country of origin of the mother allows 2 surnames, you can register the name like that (valid at least for EU countries).

I named my child according to Portuguese standards (Mom's surname + Dad's surname). Absolutely no peep from the Swiss authorities - I just registered the name and the birth certificate came as requested.

Got some peep from the Germans, but as soon as I brought the Portuguese documents, they filed the papers without a fuss.
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Old 28.01.2019, 17:12
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Re: Hyphenated last name for CH-born baby

For those who are interested on the applicable laws:

Regulations pursuant to the Swiss Civil Code

First name
The parents give the child his or her first name.
https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...ndex.html#a301
If parents are married, they determine the first name of the child. If they are not married, the mother determines the first name unless there is shared custody. […] The civil registrar rejects names which patently injure the interests of children.
https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...ndex.html#a37c

Family Surname / Child of married parents
1 Where the parents are married to each other but bear different surnames, the child takes the surname that the parents decided would be given to their children when they married.
2 Within one year of the birth of their first child, the parents may request that the child take the surname of the other parent.
3 If the parents bear a joint family name, the child takes that name.
https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...ndex.html#a270

Family surname / Child of unmarried parents
1. If one parent has parental responsibility, the child takes that parent's surname before marriage. If the parents share parental responsibility, they decide which of their surnames before marriage their children should take.
2 If joint parental responsibility is established after the birth of the first child, either parent may within a year of its establishment declare before the civil registrar that the child should take the other parent's name before marriage. This declaration applies to all common children, regardless of who is given parental responsibility.
3 If neither parent has parental responsibility, the child takes the mother's name before marriage.
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https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classifi...dex.html#a270a

Regulations pursuant to the Swiss Private International Law Statute
The name of a person with domicile in Switzerland is subject to Swiss law; the name of a person with domicile abroad is subject to the law determined by the conflict of laws regulations of the country of domicile. However, a person can request that its name be subjected to its home law.
https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...index.html#a37

Name is entered into the civil registry according to the Swiss principles of maintaining the civil registry.
https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...index.html#a40
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However, a person can request that its name be subjected to its home law.
https://www.admin.ch/opc/de/classifi...index.html#a37
So this part basically confirms that non-Swiss nationals domiciled in Switzerland can apply the law of their home country and as such disregard all of the various Swiss rules governing names.
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Old 28.01.2019, 18:03
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So this part basically confirms that non-Swiss nationals domiciled in Switzerland can apply the law of their home country and as such disregard all of the various Swiss rules governing names.
Except that the civil registrar still gets to apply Swiss principles governing the conduct of the civil registry, which presumably allow him or her to reject first names that patently injure the interests of the child.
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Except that the civil registrar still gets to apply Swiss principles governing the conduct of the civil registry, which presumably allow him or her to reject first names that patently injure the interests of the child.
If your presumption is correct, which it could well be, then you end up with foreigners domiciled in Switzerland who are known by one name in Switzerland and another in their home country.
This situation also occurs when foreign nationals who naturalise in Switzerland change their name in Switzerland when they acquire citizenship.
If they retain their previous nationality and become dual nationals, they can also end up with one name in Switzerland and one name in the first country i.e. two different passports with two different names in for the same person.
A situation which is not ideal and could be misused.
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Old 28.01.2019, 18:27
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Re: Hyphenated last name for CH-born baby

As I read it the civil registrar has the discretion / duty only when registering the first name of a child at the time the name is chosen, i.e. if the child (even if it is a foreign national) is born in Switzerland and hence registered in Switzerland, the civil registrar will need to exercise the discretion. If, however, a person / even an infant comes to Switzerland from abroad with a "funny" name, that did not happen on the civil registrar's watch...
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Old 28.01.2019, 18:28
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Except that the civil registrar still gets to apply Swiss principles governing the conduct of the civil registry, which presumably allow him or her to reject first names that patently injure the interests of the child.
Which must be a very rare occurrence I imagine.
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But shouldn't it be "MYNAME-MyWIFE'NAME"?

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Which must be a very rare occurrence I imagine.
I don't think too many people want to name their children 'Jura'.
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No.
Why not?

That's how they send my tax bills!

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Old 28.01.2019, 19:19
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I don't think too many people want to name their children 'Jura'.
Yet I watched a TV film on RAI last night where one of the cast was called 'Ginevra'.

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Why not?

That's how they send my tax bills!

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That's not the way the OP wants it. And what happens you is NOT the standard for the whole world.
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what happens TO you is NOT the standard for the whole world.
FTFY.

We are in Switzerland, who cares about the rest of the world?

Clearly, people from Bahston have crap grammar!

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FTFY.

We are in Switzerland, who cares about the rest of the world?


Dude, the whole point of this thread is that as the OP and family are not swiss and ergo, thus, therefore they can pick names based on their home country laws (ie the rest of the world excluding Switzerland.

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Old 28.01.2019, 21:04
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Dude, the whole point of this thread is that as the OP and family are not swiss and ergo, thus, therefore they can pick names based on their home country laws (ie the rest of the world excluding Switzerland.

There is something beyond our confines?

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Which must be a very rare occurrence I imagine.
Exactly, because most of the officials will know that (as was said from the beginning) they don't have the final say in what a foreigner's names are.
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Exactly, because most of the officials will know that (as was said from the beginning) they don't have the final say in what a foreigner's names are.
Not 100% accurate but whatever.
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Re: Hyphenated last name for CH-born baby

sorry I haven't read all four pages....

This happened to us- in a nutshell, we were not married but wanted my husband's surname (to match our other 2kids) this didn't go down with the Swiss and insisted on my surname.

We had to get in contact with our consulate (UK) they issued a letter broadly explaining that it was within British law to have my husbands surname. We took this letter to Zurich (can't remember the authority but I suppose the one that deals with birth certificates - this part of my life in Switzerland was so hellish that i have seemed to block it out of my mind so details are sketchy ) and they issued a new birth certificate.

looking back the process is quite easy, what made it hard was having no idea that they would even question it

Get in contact with your consulate they should be able to tell u the process.
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