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Cost for dental braces for 10yo

My 10yo son needs braces. We've been quoted 11,000+ Fr. by a dentist/orthodontist. Needless to say, a bit shocked by the price. We went to get a second opinion, and the dentist said she would need to do the same measurements and evaluation agains for herself, which would cost over a thousand francs. Ugh. This is how they keep people from shopping around.

Anyway, I thought I'd put it out the the EF and see if anyone has experience with preteen braces and the price you paid. We're looking at a two year period with adjustments every two weeks. We would probably stay in Switzerland because of the frequency, and because our insurance will pay a portion.

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Re: Cost for dental braces for 10yo

That seems high but maybe your son needs more work than ours did/does. I would call bullshit on the 1000 CHF evaluation; any decent orthodontist can give you a pretty good estimate prior to measurements.

We go to Dr. Klein in Stans and the total price for our son (also ~2 years) will be in the neighborhood of 6k. Not a fixed price (like was the norm in the States) but he charges per work done.
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Re: Cost for dental braces for 10yo

10 is very young for braces. Are all his adult teeth fully out already?
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Re: Cost for dental braces for 10yo

'needs' braces ? For what purpose...


My son 'needs' braces, but several dentists have also acknowledged that this 'need' is only aesthetics. We/he have chosen not to have them - in his Sek class of 20 children, he was the only one that didn't have them 19 kids, all for aethetic reasons...



My daughter, on the other hand, has the most superbly genetically perfect teeth you ever saw... even the dentists are astonished as they can tell that they are natural...
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10 is very young for braces. Are all his adult teeth fully out already?
Yes, all his adult teeth are in. He's nearly 11, should have mentioned. Still, I think its too young too. But the rationale is that it's better for his "social feelings" to do it sooner rather than later, as if braces when he's 14 will scare off the ladies. Pretty stupid but once the dentist said that in front of my son, the boy agreed. When I was his age I would have been happy to keep the girls away!

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'needs' braces ? For what purpose...

My son 'needs' braces, but several dentists have also acknowledged that this 'need' is only aesthetics. We/he have chosen not to have them - in his Sek class of 20 children, he was the only one that didn't have them 19 kids, all for aethetic reasons...

My daughter, on the other hand, has the most superbly genetically perfect teeth you ever saw... even the dentists are astonished as they can tell that they are natural...
In any case, we don't plan to do it right away, probably wait another year. But he has such an overbite that his bottom teeth are irritating the roof of his mouth. So we shouldn't wait too long. We're not do it for aesthetic reasons at all. Crooked teeth are lovely.
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That seems high but maybe your son needs more work than ours did/does. I would call bullshit on the 1000 CHF evaluation; any decent orthodontist can give you a pretty good estimate prior to measurements.

We go to Dr. Klein in Stans and the total price for our son (also ~2 years) will be in the neighborhood of 6k. Not a fixed price (like was the norm in the States) but he charges per work done.
6k is much more reasonable. I'd drive to Stans for that. Thanks!
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We go to Dr. Klein in Stans and the total price for our son (also ~2 years) will be in the neighborhood of 6k. Not a fixed price (like was the norm in the States) but he charges per work done.
Oh, was that for a full set (top/bottom) traditional metal cemented braces?
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Re: Cost for dental braces for 10yo

The price of the work depends on the type of work needed, how long it takes to complete and where you live.
We live in the Basel area and we paid:
Child 1 6500, metal braces top and bottom, 1.5 years
Child 2 15000 but had an underbite that required 1.5 years of correction with a retainer and 2 years in invisalign braces. She had a difficult time but the results were well worth it.
Child 3 7500, currently in what should be 1year in invisalign
Child 4 has the most beautiful and perfectly aligned teeth. Hallelujah, no work needed for him!

Child 1 was 12, Child 3 was 10 due to the underbite correction. Child 3 needed braces to help correct his bite but refused to care for his mouth or teeth so he did not get braces until he was 15 and said that he wanted to fix his teeth and was ready to accept responsibility for the health of his mouth. And as a side note, invisalign might just be the best thing that ever happened to orthodonture.
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Old 04.02.2019, 07:30
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Yes, all his adult teeth are in. He's nearly 11, should have mentioned. Still, I think its too young too. But the rationale is that it's better for his "social feelings" to do it sooner rather than later, as if braces when he's 14 will scare off the ladies. Pretty stupid but once the dentist said that in front of my son, the boy agreed. When I was his age I would have been happy to keep the girls away!



In any case, we don't plan to do it right away, probably wait another year. But he has such an overbite that his bottom teeth are irritating the roof of his mouth. So we shouldn't wait too long. We're not do it for aesthetic reasons at all. Crooked teeth are lovely.
The overbite issue / part of the process will be taken car of (at least in part) by LaMal. Did the orthodontist mention this?
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Re: Cost for dental braces for 10yo

I once went here to get a brace for one tooth. Was very good and was covered by health insurance. There you get an honest opinion!

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Re: Cost for dental braces for 10yo

My eldest needed braces and was quoted CHF 20,000 and our neighbour paid chf 14,000 for her daughter, though my son's teeth were pretty bad.

In the end we had it done in South Africa, where he was studying at the time, for a total cost when paid upfront of chf 1,800 plus the making of a retainer which he has to wear at nights.

I realise S. Africa is not an option for you, but just to compare with Ticino. The work was done perfectly and the only advice he gave was that it should have been done 5 years earlier, when he was then 12. I would advise the same for your son as the bone is softer the younger one is and so the less the time the braces need to be in. (I think that's the term?)
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Re: Cost for dental braces for 10yo

Daughter one and two needed them. Daughter one's correction came to over 10thousand and daughter tw's cost 8'000.-chf overall



Daughter one, we tried to apply to the IV for help, since it was a complex problem. In the end we didn't get help from them, because of her problem not meeting their margin by half a milimeter. She needed 3 surgeries and had braces top and bottom, entire process took over 3 years.


But just so you know, if your kids' problem is medical and not esthetic, you might apply for help with the IV. Check with the orthdontist. But the IV have really very tight guidelines you've got to meet, for them to help pay. Everything in the child's mouth is measured down to a hundredth of a millimeter.....


In the end our regular health insurance (back then we were semi-private insured) paid 70% towards everything and I had to cough up the rest.


This is why it pays nowadays, when insuring a newborn, to choose the dental insurance on offer too
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'needs' braces ? For what purpose...


My son 'needs' braces, but several dentists have also acknowledged that this 'need' is only aesthetics. We/he have chosen not to have them - in his Sek class of 20 children, he was the only one that didn't have them 19 kids, all for aethetic reasons...



My daughter, on the other hand, has the most superbly genetically perfect teeth you ever saw... even the dentists are astonished as they can tell that they are natural...
IMHO, even a slight misalignment can lead to other problems in the future. Early treatment means less in terms of duration and money.

OH had to wear braces in his thirties, OK, not (only) for aesthetic reasons, and I have to tell you it can be quite unpleasant. And...very expensive.
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My 10yo son needs braces. We've been quoted 11,000+ Fr. by a dentist/orthodontist. Needless to say, a bit shocked by the price. We went to get a second opinion, and the dentist said she would need to do the same measurements and evaluation agains for herself, which would cost over a thousand francs. Ugh. This is how they keep people from shopping around.
We were told our our eight-year old needed braces by our new dentist practice (not sure how my wife chose them). After two years of payments (and little actually being done), we had enough and stopped going to that dentist.

We went to a new one who first queried what the hell was going on with braces being fitted to an eight-year old when it was clearly obvious that he wasn't old enough for them. That information cost nothing.

After digging around a bit it would appear that the first dentist is only interested in making money and their practices would appear to be a bit unethical.

To the OP: I'm not suggesting your child does not need braces but just be careful.
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IMHO, even a slight misalignment can lead to other problems in the future. Early treatment means less in terms of duration and money.

OH had to wear braces in his thirties, OK, not (only) for aesthetic reasons, and I have to tell you it can be quite unpleasant. And...very expensive.
My son's dentist said he'd need to be fitted with braces but the plan was to wait a couple of years until the age of 12-13 to see how much they are sorted out by his own growth. The two front teeth over-lapped quite badly and a couple of his bottom teeth had some overcrowding issues when he was younger but with age, they have spread out quite a bit by themselves. He'll still need some correction but probably not nearly as much as if they'd started corrective treatment a couple of years ago.
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Re: Cost for dental braces for 10yo

Our children will need treatment. Our son has had his first consultation. We have been told to wait and see how his jaw develops as he is only 9 so they will monitor him for now; if you catch it at the right time of bone growth then braces are required for a shorter time and to expect a 6-10k bill.
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Re: Cost for dental braces for 10yo

To the OP:
If your son's bottom teeth are touching the base of the palate in the upper jaw then he has a condition which we call in dentistry a traumatic deep bite. That needs to be corrected before adolescence, as no-treatment will lead to severe periodontal disease in adulthood, which can lead to loss of the front upper and bottom teeth.


In general, with such deep bite I will actually recommend Invisalign (or OrthoCaps), rather than braces, as you can treat both jaws at the same time; with braces you have to start with the upper first, than the lower, and the treatment time is longer. The comment is in general - your son's circumstances can be different. There are cases that Invisalign cannot treat and braces are the only option. Another shortcoming of Invisalign for young kids is in compliance - they can take off the aligners and not wear them, lose them, drop them in unsanitary places, etc. None is possible with braces. It is for reasons of compliance that we started offering braces recently in addition to aligners.


In terms of cost ... 11,000 CHF is somewhat above average; again, a general comment as I have not seen your son's case. Looking at the actual costs in similar cases of traumatic deep bite we have done, the range is in the 5000 to 6000 CHF.


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Re: Cost for dental braces for 10yo

My daughter is under treatment right now. She is 16, started when she was 15yo. First half year she had some elastics to move her bottom jaw a bit forward, now braces on top and bottom teeth. Price 12000 ch for a 2 year treatment. 75% is covered by her orthodontic insurance.
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"Ein frühzeitiger Abschluss einer ambulanten Zusatzversicherungen kann sich lohnen, weil sich viele Krankenkassen nur dann an den Kosten einer Zahnstellungskorrektur beteiligen, wenn diese erst nach Versicherungsabschluss diagnostiziert wird. Einige Krankenkassen verlangen zudem eine Karenzfrist (Wartefrist) von 6 Monaten bis zu 3 Jahren. Schliessen Sie eine Zusatzversicherung für ambulante Leistungen ab, bevor ihr Kind ein ärztliches Attest benötigt. Ein solches verlangen alle Versicherer ab einem bestimmten Alter, manche bereits nach dem 3. Geburtstag.
Für Zahnkorrekturen für Kinder und Jugendliche kommen in erster Linie ambulante Krankenpflegezusätze auf. Ein Vergleich der Zusatzversicherungen ist nötig, da sich die Leistungen von Kasse zu Kasse markant unterscheiden. Je nach Versicherung werden nur 50 bis 80 Prozent der Zahnbehandlungskosten entschädigt.
Bei manchen Krankenkassen-Zusätzen sind die jährlichen Beiträge beschränkt – bei einigen auf einige tausend Franken pro Jahr. Zahnkorrekturen können allerdings rasch einmal mehr als 5'000 Franken kosten.
Die Prämienkosten bewegen sich zwischen 10 und 20 Franken pro Monat und Kind. Bei einigen Krankenkassen ist ein separater Abschluss einer individuellen Zahn-Zusatzversicherung nötig. Diese ist oft teurer als die allgemeinen Paketlösungen."

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An early conclusion of an outpatient supplementary insurance may be worthwhile, because many health insurance companies only participate in the costs of a tooth correction if this is diagnosed after the insurance has been taken out. Some health insurance companies also require a waiting period of 6 months to 3 years. Take out additional insurance for outpatient services before your child needs a medical certificate. All insurers above a certain age require this, some already after the third birthday.
For dental corrections for children and adolescents come primarily outpatient nursing supplements. A comparison of the supplementary insurance is necessary because the prices of the insurance vary significantly one insurer to the next. Depending on the insurance, only 50 to 80 percent of the dental treatment costs are compensated.
With some health insurance supplements the annual contributions are limited - with some to several thousand francs per year. However, dental corrections can quickly cost more than 5,000 francs.
The premium costs range between 10 and 20 francs per month and child. Some health insurances require a separate conclusion of an individual supplementary dental insurance. This is often more expensive than the general package solutions.
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My eldest needed braces and was quoted CHF 20,000 and our neighbour paid chf 14,000 for her daughter, though my son's teeth were pretty bad.

In the end we had it done in South Africa, where he was studying at the time, for a total cost when paid upfront of chf 1,800 plus the making of a retainer which he has to wear at nights.

I realise S. Africa is not an option for you, but just to compare with Ticino. The work was done perfectly and the only advice he gave was that it should have been done 5 years earlier, when he was then 12. I would advise the same for your son as the bone is softer the younger one is and so the less the time the braces need to be in. (I think that's the term?)
10 to 20K sounds about right to me. I know it sounds ridiculous, but that's how it is.

I understand a lot of Swiss people go to Hungary, where they pay about a quarter of that, or less. I'm talking adult braces here. I don't know if kids braces are significantly different.

Germany is also an option of course and plenty of dentists along the border live almost entirely off Swiss patients. If you go deeper into Germany it gets cheaper still.
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