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I want to get hold of some motion sickness/anti-emetic tablets that are available in Turkey without prescription (or in the US with prescription.) They're not on the Swissmedic list. Is there any legal way to get them other than going to Turkey? It's emedur or tigan - trimethobenzamide.
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Or even a poppy-seed roll!

Even had a freind in France ask me to bring poppy seeds from Switzerland (available in any supermarket) as they were illegal there!

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The poppy seeds I have in my kitchen are from France. I bought them there because they came in a cute bottle.
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Old 07.02.2019, 21:47
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Your friend was pulling your leg, I've often bought poppy seeds in the nearest branch of Migros across the border in France, even Amazon France sells them;
https://www.amazon.fr/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...ine+coquelicot
This was 20 years or so ago, perhaps 25.

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Old 07.02.2019, 22:05
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The poppy seeds I have in my kitchen are from France. I bought them there because they came in a cute bottle.
I've got a jar of BIBA poppy seeds bought ~45 years ago when they opened the massive shop in the old Derry and Toms building in London.... along with a tin of baked beans that was the only thing (with the distinctive logo on) I could afford as a broke student.

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This was 20 years or so ago, perhaps 25.

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Figures. Nice try though!

PS: 20 plus years ago I used to buy a poppy-based sleeping aid made by a well know french brand and sold in all the larger french supermarkets. Annoyingly it was eventually withdrawn (maybe fifteen years ago) when the french decided they needed to pay more than vague lip service to EU rules on opiate derivatives. If the supermarkets sold that they certainly wouldn't have flinched at selling poppy seeds to sprinkle on cake.

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I want to get hold of some motion sickness/anti-emetic tablets that are available in Turkey without prescription (or in the US with prescription.) They're not on the Swissmedic list. Is there any legal way to get them other than going to Turkey? It's emedur or tigan - trimethobenzamide.
Motilium is an anti-emetic available in CH without prescription....or is it the specific one you want, rather than „just an anti-emetic“?
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Old 07.02.2019, 23:24
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I have never believed that generic stuff always equals the original.
That's because they don't - not 100% anyway Generics can diverge from the original, though only to a limited extent (I'm not a doctor or any form of scientific specialist for that matter). Generics can also contain additional, non-active ingredients that differ from the original branded drug. So it's indeed possible to be fine with one product, but not with its generic.
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Old 07.02.2019, 23:29
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The Dutch government licence some online pharmacies so you know they provide correct drugs.

The government list is here, in Dutch.
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Motilium is an anti-emetic available in CH without prescription....or is it the specific one you want, rather than „just an anti-emetic“?
Which is not legal in the USA funny enough and is widely used off label to increase breastmilk production.

Zofran is the bomb for anti-emetics
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Generics are very carefully monitored for accuracy in Switzerland. All the doctors I know are happy to use generics, both here and in the UK.
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Generics are very carefully monitored for accuracy in Switzerland. All the doctors I know are happy to use generics, both here and in the UK.
maybe they pick the better suppliers but these are made often in cheap to source labor countries and no they don't test every box, GENERALLY they are the same, every once in a while here is an issue. Like with food, clothes, you name it.
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Which is not legal in the USA funny enough and is widely used off label to increase breastmilk production.

Zofran is the bomb for anti-emetics

If I go to the point of specifying the brands and drug name I want and the only places they are available from then that's a pretty good sign that I wasn't looking for a generic anti-emetic that I can get from any Swiss pharmacy.
Motilium has a serious side effect warning so I'd rather not use it.
Zofran is already in the drug box. I was specifically asking for how to legally get hold of trimethobenzamide without having to go to Turkey but I guess it's impossible.
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Which is not legal in the USA funny enough..
Well, not funnily enough - in CZ it is not really promoted by doctors, either, people saw it in my kitchen: "You, guys, might want to be quite careful with domperidone"
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That's because they don't - not 100% anyway Generics can diverge from the original, though only to a limited extent (I'm not a doctor or any form of scientific specialist for that matter). Generics can also contain additional, non-active ingredients that differ from the original branded drug. So it's indeed possible to be fine with one product, but not with its generic.
While this is true, such events like the OP's are rare, so I wouldn't use this as a general reason to avoid reputable generics.
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My GP and pediatrician have told us to avoid generic meds, same story from doctors I know back home. It is not just happy pills, but we were warned against inefficient ATBs. I have never believed that generic stuff always equals the original.



This really is rubbish, generics are exactly same as original drugs, many are taking the place of named drugs that have fallen out of patent protection
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My GP and pediatrician have told us to avoid generic meds, same story from doctors I know back home. It is not just happy pills, but we were warned against inefficient ATBs. I have never believed that generic stuff always equals the original.
Are they dispensing doctors or do the provide a prescription for you to fill at an independent pharmacy? Because I have heard that some pharma reps do quite well with dispensing doctors and can be very ‘kind’ to ones that prescribe their drugs.


Not that I am saying that generics are always as good, my mother fell foul of that with ther glaucoma medicine, when the NHS dropped the one she used for a generic her eye started deteriorating again, turns out the not very effective adjunct the brand used was very effective in some individual cases.
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Are they dispensing doctors or do the provide a prescription for you to fill at an independent pharmacy? Because I have heard that some pharma reps do quite well with dispensing doctors and can be very ‘kind’ to ones that prescribe their drugs.
Yeah, I know the difference, indeed. But nope, I wouldn't keep a pharma sales rep as a doctor for us.


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This really is rubbish, generics are exactly same as original drugs, many are taking the place of named drugs that have fallen out of patent protection
They're equivalent (supposedly), not identical. Of course there may be differences, often the (presumably) inactive components like filler and preservatives differ.
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Well, not funnily enough - in CZ it is not really promoted by doctors, either, people saw it in my kitchen: "You, guys, might want to be quite careful with domperidone"
If it was OK for 007....

After that I was prescribed metoclopramide (Paspertin)...
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They're equivalent (supposedly), not identical. Of course there may be differences, often the (presumably) inactive components like filler and preservatives differ.



The main difference is a generic manufacturer does not have the R&D cost of a named brand and can thefore sell far cheaper and make far more profit that the original munufacturer,


The actual pill is identical in composition/dosage or othewise it would need to got through registration process again.
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I've got a jar of BIBA poppy seeds bought ~45 years ago when they opened the massive shop in the old Derry and Toms building in London.... along with a tin of baked beans that was the only thing (with the distinctive logo on) I could afford as a broke student.



Figures. Nice try though!

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Curious to know what carlasmom thinks deserves a groan?

I'd half expected one from Tom, but from someone who's not even contributing to the conversation it's a bit off.
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