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Giving birth in Zug

Greetings EF!

As many of the users here are based in Zug and the surrounding region, I wanted to get a more up-to-date sense of what people's experiences have been with giving birth in Zug (specifically, the delivery and post-natal care aspect).

My wife is scheduled to deliver later this summer, and we are trying to form an idea of whether we should go with the Zuger Kantonspital or with Andreas Klinik in Cham.

From my understanding, the Kantonspital is better equipped to manage in case of emergencies, but you are unable to choose which doctor will deliver the baby. Whichever doctor is on duty at the hospital at the respective time will deliver the baby. However, for the immediate post-natal period (1+ days) during the hospital stay, there is always at least one doctor available in case of emergencies and complications.

In the case of Andreas Klinik, you can choose which doctor will deliver the baby, but for the immediate post-natal period, there is not always a doctor around. Is this correct?

Any input with people's experiences would be greatly appreciated. Thank you kindly!
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Re: Giving birth in Zug

So, while we didn't give birth in Zug, we live here and looked at the options.


The fundamental difference is that Andreas is a private clinic, so unless you are fully privately insured, you will need to pay out of pocket. It is very luxurious and it is a bit like staying in a hotel.


You will fundamentally get the same service at both, but note that if you have a complicated birth you will be transferred to the Kantonspital anyway.


Regarding doctors on duty, I don't think it's correct that there are not doctors on duty at Andreas. (And if not on the property, they will certainly be on call)


Honestly we know people that have given birth at both and all have given both great reviews, but if you suspect you will have an uncomplicated birth and have fully private insurance, I would go with the Andreas clinic. (We gave birth at Clinic im Park, part of the same group, and it was great)
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Re: Giving birth in Zug

The Andreas Klinik is still available with general insurance, you don't need to pay anything unless you buy any of the addons. The default choice is good enough. It does feel like a hotel.
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Re: Giving birth in Zug

With my first baby, I paid an upgrade for my doctor to be at the birth and for a for a private room. My baby was induced in the end, on the doctor's usual hospital day, so a complete waste of money. The room upgrade would have been enough.

For my second, I preferred to use the money on myself, some 3k. The worst was a 2 person room at the Zug hospital and a bathroom between us two. If you are lucky, you get the room to yourself.

In the end the doctor would have completely missed the quick arrival of our second baby, born 7 minutes after we checked in at reception. My husband passed my doctor walking in as he went to move our car we'd abandoned at the taxi rank. Not even enough time to give us a parking ticket
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The Andreas Klinik is still available with general insurance, you don't need to pay anything unless you buy any of the addons

I'm really not sure this is correct...
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Re: Giving birth in Zug

https://www.hirslanden.ch/en/andreas...formation.html

Here they mention private and semi-private wards as well as a maternity ward.
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Re: Giving birth in Zug

Giving birth is not really an illness and proving all goes reasonably well it should be a problem where you give birth.


However if their is a problem then most of these private clinics can get you out the door fast enough to a Kantonspital where they are properly equipped for medical emergencies of all kinds.


In view a few minutes/hours can be the difference between life and death, the fact you are not ill and don't require intensive care, why bother taking the risk in a private clinic ?


PS Their are far nicer "5 *****" hotels than these private clinics that are considerably cheaper....
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Re: Giving birth in Zug

If you want to be on the very safe side I would go to a hospital where they have their own neonatology and intensive care unit, in case the newborn has serious problems like for example a respiratory syndrome (SARS)



It looks like Kantonsspital Zug doesn't have one:


https://www.zentralplus.ch/de/news/a...ilfe%C2%BB.htm


It think Kantonsspital Luzern and Frauenklinik in Zürich have one specialised unit some others as well.
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https://www.hirslanden.ch/en/andreas...formation.html

Here they mention private and semi-private wards as well as a maternity ward.

It's still a private clinic. The difference is whether you have a private room or not
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I'm really not sure this is correct...
Hi Nick,


I'm trying to find more information, they have the upgrade options but if you select None of them and go for a general ward would the costs not be just covered by compulsory health insurance?


https://www.hirslanden.ch/content/da...-Upgrade-e.pdf


I thought the difference in the private vs public hospital has to do with the extra luxuries and upgrades and if you didn't pick any of the extras the cost wouldn't be much different.


I wasn't aware though they are not equipped for all scenarios and might move the baby to the Kantonsspital, that changes things. I emailed them but what exactly are they missing?
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Re: Giving birth in Zug

General ward in Andreas Klinik (max 4 people) is covered by basic insurance. They also offer half-private and private packages at about 1500 and 3000 CHF per stay. We had a doctor related to this clinic and gave birth there. Had very pleasant experience. Many of our friends gave birth in Kantonspotal which is also good. If you want a bit more luxury and relaxing atmosphere go to Andreas, with some foreseen complications maybe makes sense to stay in Spital.
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General ward in Andreas Klinik (max 4 people) is covered by basic insurance.

I might be wrong, but Hirslanden is a group of private clinics. I really don't believe that you can go there on basic insurance and a friend of mine decided against Andreas Klinik because he is on basic insurance and would have had to pay.


Of course the website doesn't help, but I did find this clause in the admissions document, which does seem to support my thoughts:


'If there is no commitment to cover costs from a health insurance company, a deposit must be paid prior to admission to the clinic. We will write to you if this is this case.'
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Re: Giving birth in Zug

...and this post also seems to indicate that you need, at least, semi private insurance, to give birth at Hirslanden...


https://www.englishforum.ch/family-m...maternity.html
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Re: Giving birth in Zug

You might be right Nick but that sentence you quoted I believe simply refers to people who might be here as tourists or visitors without health insurance, they would need to provide an advance payment.


I emailed the Klinik today to ask, I don't think in Switzerland you are allowed to deny general ward services in general, private or public. It wouldn't make sense either as they'll lose a lot of money. Obviously they have those spicy extras that people add that are quite profitable.


I'll post the answer from the Klinik as soon as I receive it, if anyone already went to Andreas Klinik with basic insurance please let us know.
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...and this post also seems to indicate that you need, at least, semi private insurance, to give birth at Hirslanden...


https://www.englishforum.ch/family-m...maternity.html
My wife gave birth two times in Andreasklunik and we did not have semi-private insurance. Ten years ago it was like you say but at least since 7 years they have general wards.
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Re: Giving birth in Zug

People mix the "private" from the private clinic with the "private" from the private insurance. These are quite different things.

The bottom line is that with the Andreas Clinic you get to choose your doctor and with the Kantonspital Zug you get better accommodation without paying extra money, but you don't get to use your doctor.
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My wife gave birth two times in Andreasklunik and we did not have semi-private insurance. Ten years ago it was like you say but at least since 7 years they have general wards.

Thanks for the 'groan' regardless. I never said I was the authority, but just voiced what I believe the situation to be.


I guess that means that everyone can give birth at a Hirslanden, get the bag and the little blankie.


I would suggest that everyone gives birth at the Hirslanden if there is no financial impact
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Re: Giving birth in Zug

A few years ago I'm pretty sure Hirslanden had the highest c-section rate in the world... or near enough to it ...and were proud of that...



As for 'choosing your doctor' - I never did...the midwives and the woman do the work...and as said, if there is a real emergency, you won't be in a position to choose doctor or where you and your baby are going to be.


My worst nightmare would be mum in one hospital and baby transferred somewhere else...
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I emailed the Klinik today to ask, I don't think in Switzerland you are allowed to deny general ward services in general, private or public. It wouldn't make sense either as they'll lose a lot of money. Obviously they have those spicy extras that people add that are quite profitable.

Let us know how you get on...and congrats?
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... but you are unable to choose which doctor will deliver the baby.
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In the case of Andreas Klinik, you can choose which doctor will deliver the baby,
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Isn't it your wife who will deliver the baby?

Normally, if there are no issues, the doctor has not much to do with a child-birth.
In many cases there is not even one involved (only midwife).
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