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It strikes me as inappropriate and peculiarly harsh whenever people with a mental health issue are told to just take control, just be self-detetmined, just go for a brisk walk, meditate, eat salads, research all options thoroughly, make it happen, and be independent. And that if they haven't succeeded in this yet, it is clearly because they weren't prepared to put in the effort.

How very odd, and not adequate to the disorders (including but not only depression and anxiety) nor, as I've observed it, respectful towards the sufferer.
I understand your sentiment but people in these situations need to try different methods of making themselves much better. Oddly enough I was trying out many different concepts to solve other health issues (like losing weight and Hypertension) and tried OMAD and fasting (btw dry fasting is great for worms Music Chick). Fasting for the last year solved those (and many more) health issues. I also noticed that 'depression' for me now doesn't exist anymore in that sense, and I put this down to intoxication as I also completely changed my diet (starting with keto) to clean-eating (no processed foods).

This might be useful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJ3AAsb1D0

Gut health in my opinion is super important and can play a big or at least an important part of one's state of mind, I am not a specialist, I just go to extremes and in my case solved many issues including non-clinical depression.
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Re: Therapy needed for depression/anxiety

I too have gone through this problem. Winter is especially a hard time. I first found an English speaking therapist. There was one in Zurich but I eventually switched to one in the USA and spoke over the phone with her. I then went to my gp and he prescribed me an anti depressant which I was on for about 1.5 years. It helped me stabilize. If you’d like my therapists number then let me know. I’m also I am English speaking book club. We meet 1x per month and that helps to not feel alone.
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Old 15.03.2019, 10:31
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Indeed.

This is often mistaken for laziness. It isn't. If it were laziness, then it would at some point become boring.

In a way, depression deprives you of the you who would normally become bored.
Those people I'm talking about used to be very active, had a job, a family they took care very well of. Sudden changes like that coupled with behavioural changes etc. were a clear sign that something is not good. When I was a teen some friend's mother had suffered a severe period of depression and their family was scared to death. I don't think many people think it's laziness these days. Especially if they know the person. Here in CH - a friend of mine was also battling a postpartum depression and it was horrible. I never thought for a second she's lazy, nor anyone else I know.
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I think it's simpler than that. People question stuff. If it doesn't stand up to even superficial scrutiny, it's good to call it out. It's not "censoring" or "shooing". Mods denouncing any sign of a challenge is not helpful to the life of a thread.

Local doctors should have the least to fear. At least they are qualified, experienced and regulated. It's quacks with their woo who should be shaking in their shoes.
Exactly this. Discussions can't happen if the people trying to have that discussion are spanked for thinking differently. Or, seemingly a worse crime, agreeing with each other.

OP, I hope you've found some support. Every day can feel like a mountain you have to climb, I know this. Talking helps.
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..and tried OMAD and fasting (btw dry fasting is great for worms Music Chick).
What do you mean?

Worms were suggested as a therapy.

Fasting, btw, is awesome treatment for...all (seems to me). Gut health is a must, indeed. I can't find enough fresh fermented non-dairy stuff, don't have the time to ferment myself.

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What do you mean?

Worms were suggested as a therapy.

Fasting, btw, is awesome treatment for...all (seems to me). Gut health is a must, indeed. I can't find enough fresh fermented non-dairy stuff, don't have the time to ferment myself.
OMAD = one meal a day

Bio Saurkraut (https://www.evas-apples.ch/), pickles, etc and just soak in a jar any veg with apple cider vinegar.
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Does anyone know of any therapists, preferably English-speaking, who can provide some guidance to get me out of this rut and back on track. I'm thinking along the lines of CBT.

I would be most grateful.

Sorry I can't help OP, but it seems a lot of people have felt the need to start a debate on your post welcome to EF.
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