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CPAP, SleepyHead, Sleep Apnea

Is there anyone in Geneva Switzerland available to talk about how you manage your Sleep Apnea? I'm trying to use the SleepyHead program and manage my CPAP use but having a few challenges.

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Re: CPAP, SleepyHead, Sleep Apnea

Yes, get yourself one of these.
Scare the bejeez out of the kids.
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WTF the groan? I would love one of these on my CPAP
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My husband has a Resmed machine so he uses the Myair platform to track his apnoea.
I know nothing about Slerpyhead unfortunately.
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Re: CPAP, SleepyHead, Sleep Apnea

Mine´s a RESsmart, a huge klunky loud brick of a pump that I use to blow up an air bed from time to time. But it´s mine and I don´t have to pay through the nose to the Lungenliga mafia and I can set it up the way I want, for instance I switched the ramp off as I love that first rush of air blowing my lungs up like two condoms and for the last six years I have only missed two nights without it. In fact I can´t even sleep without it anymore.
I track myself by the fact that the fog is gone, there are no more halucinations and I don´t wake up trying to claw the (dreamed) dried snot in my mouth. And I can drive a car without being forced to sleep every few Km´s
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WTF the groan? I would love one of these on my CPAP

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https://www.englishforum.ch/family-m...t-snoring.html


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Not sure what Sleepyhead program is, think it is to do with the software program for the CPAP machines.
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https://www.englishforum.ch/family-m...t-snoring.html


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Not sure what Sleepyhead program is, think it is to do with the software program for the CPAP machines.
Whatever it was, it has shut down.
https://sleepyhead.jedimark.net/
At the moment I am looking at a travel CPAP, the size of a baked bean can and just as loud. If only these pumps wern´t so damn expensive.
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Whatever it was, it has shut down.
https://sleepyhead.jedimark.net/
At the moment I am looking at a travel CPAP, the size of a baked bean can and just as loud. If only these pumps wern´t so damn expensive.
My husband has a ResMed AirSense 10 and it is pretty small and really really quiet.
It is a world away from the large, noisy machine my mother had.

I have no idea how much it cost, the health insurance paid for it.
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Re: CPAP, SleepyHead, Sleep Apnea

I have a Resmed AirSense 10, and find it comfortable and fairly portable, rented through health insurance.

To have a smaller/more portable backup, I separately purchased Breas Z1 with batteries, but haven't used it much. Even with it, I never fell back into the habit of doing mult-day hikes, though I should probably try to get into them again this summer.

What most makes me nervous is the Z1's humidifier solution. I tend to turn the humidifier setting way up on my Resmed and believe that it helps keep my nasal passages clear.

I looked into the SleepyHead software, but never really saw the point of it. The Resmed is an automatically adjusting machine, so it is unlikely that my pressure need has drifted off from what it provides. I do check the display each morning to see how long I slept for, but that is largely to help with the tactical question of 'how hard should I try to get up?'.
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I have a Resmed AirSense 10, and find it comfortable and fairly portable, rented through health insurance.

To have a smaller/more portable backup, I separately purchased Breas Z1 with batteries, but haven't used it much. Even with it, I never fell back into the habit of doing mult-day hikes, though I should probably try to get into them again this summer.

What most makes me nervous is the Z1's humidifier solution. I tend to turn the humidifier setting way up on my Resmed and believe that it helps keep my nasal passages clear.

I looked into the SleepyHead software, but never really saw the point of it. The Resmed is an automatically adjusting machine, so it is unlikely that my pressure need has drifted off from what it provides. I do check the display each morning to see how long I slept for, but that is largely to help with the tactical question of 'how hard should I try to get up?'.
How long do the batteries last? I had a 12 adapter that I could plug into the motorbikes power outlet on campsites without a supply so that worked.
I wonder what would happed if one introduced, let´s say "recreational chemicals" into the humidifier? Methinks it would make one hell of a bong.
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How long do the batteries last? I had a 12 adapter that I could plug into the motorbikes power outlet on campsites without a supply so that worked.
I wonder what would happed if one introduced, let´s say "recreational chemicals" into the humidifier? Methinks it would make one hell of a bong.
The Resmed humidifier is more or less a flat, mildly heated tank, with air swirling around above the water. Turning the humidifier up means it heats more, and when your bedroom is cold, this can create condensation in the air tube. As an additional accessory you can get a heated air tube for it, which prevents this, but I've always gotten by with a bit of tweaking and haven't asked for the heated tube.

If you use tap water in the humidifier and run it dry (neither of which is really recommended) you end up with some calc left behind. On the other hand, you of course smell chlorine and similar volatile impurities coming out, making water quality generally important. At home I slowly go through 5L jugs of "destillatgleiches" water from Migros, traveling I tend to roll the dice and use whatever is available.

I've never played with additives, not really my thing, but I'd expect the delivery rate to depend a lot on the vapor pressure of the additive. (Also, I'd expect a piezoelectric humidifier to be more flexible on this point, but that is just guesswork based on general physics knowledge.)

The Z1's battery system involves exchangeable, rechargable, fairly chunky lithium-ion battery packs. Longevity depends on how much pressure you need, but each pack is meant to last at least 1 night, maybe 2-3 at a low pressure. Then they require some hours to recharge.
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The Resmed humidifier is more or less a flat, mildly heated tank, with air swirling around above the water. Turning the humidifier up means it heats more, and when your bedroom is cold, this can create condensation in the air tube. As an additional accessory you can get a heated air tube for it, which prevents this, but I've always gotten by with a bit of tweaking and haven't asked for the heated tube.

If you use tap water in the humidifier and run it dry (neither of which is really recommended) you end up with some calc left behind. On the other hand, you of course smell chlorine and similar volatile impurities coming out, making water quality generally important. At home I slowly go through 5L jugs of "destillatgleiches" water from Migros, traveling I tend to roll the dice and use whatever is available.

I've never played with additives, not really my thing, but I'd expect the delivery rate to depend a lot on the vapor pressure of the additive. (Also, I'd expect a piezoelectric humidifier to be more flexible on this point, but that is just guesswork based on general physics knowledge.)

The Z1's battery system involves exchangeable, rechargable, fairly chunky lithium-ion battery packs. Longevity depends on how much pressure you need, but each pack is meant to last at least 1 night, maybe 2-3 at a low pressure. Then they require some hours to recharge.
The only thing I tried was some eucaliptus oil when I had a cold, I thought it was a good idea... FYI, it wasn´t and I havn´t been able to stand the stench of vic medinight since.
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Is there anyone in Geneva Switzerland available to talk about how you manage your Sleep Apnea? I'm trying to use the SleepyHead program and manage my CPAP use but having a few challenges.

Please let me know.

thanks
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The go-to people for apnoea and CPAP therapy are the mafia that slammer mentioned. In Geneva, they're la Ligue pulmonaire.

They're not really mafiosi. I guess slammer's referring to their charges when renting CPAP machines from them. Depending on your health insurance policy, you could be far better off buying your own.

Since I and others been so nice and helpful, could you remove that groan you dished out to slammer? He really didn't deserve it.
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Re: CPAP, SleepyHead, Sleep Apnea

Thanks everyone for taking the time to respond. I recently joined an online group (http://www.cpaptalk.com). They are cpap users who empower themselves by collecting and analyzing their own data, from their cpap datacard, through a software called SleepyHead. Problem is that i cant get sleepyhead to work properly. Someone on cpaptalk suggested i go on EnglishForum.com to get some support from a local person experienced in SleepyHEead needs.
Still searching solutions since my health insurance requires that i use CENAS as my provider. They are expensive, not helpful and discourage SleepyHead use.

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Thanks everyone for taking the time to respond. I recently joined an online group (http://www.cpaptalk.com). They are cpap users who empower themselves by collecting and analyzing their own data, from their cpap datacard, through a software called SleepyHead. Problem is that i cant get sleepyhead to work properly. Someone on cpaptalk suggested i go on EnglishForum.com to get some support from a local person experienced in SleepyHEead needs.
Still searching solutions since my health insurance requires that i use CENAS as my provider. They are expensive, not helpful and discourage SleepyHead use.

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You are not listening (or reading) Sleepyhead has shut down, you will not get it to work.
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I am using Sleepyhead -a beta version from Australia downloaded from the internet that works fine and I really appreciate being able to follow the data (in a legal sense the data belongs to the patient) My Resmed is from the LungenLiga -covered by my insurance. I use essential oils applied to the air intake filter after reading blogs that suggested adding directly to the water is not a good idea -leaves stains on the plastic. The blogs that I read report no problems with the pump itself after long term oil usage though many people use a tissue spotted with oil next to the inlet. The Lungen Liga are bit schoolteacher like in their approach.
Where did you get that cool spider accessory?

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The go-to people for apnoea and CPAP therapy are the mafia that slammer mentioned. In Geneva, they're la Ligue pulmonaire.

They're not really mafiosi. I guess slammer's referring to their charges when renting CPAP machines from them. Depending on your health insurance policy, you could be far better off buying your own.

Since I and others been so nice and helpful, could you remove that groan you dished out to slammer? He really didn't deserve it.
There were two options given by the specialist here in Neuchâtel.
The ‘ligue pulmonaire’ was one of them, the other was SOS oxygene and hubby went with them. They have been absolutely brilliant and very easy to deal with.

The specialist said they recommended renting a machine for a year to make sure patients could get on with them before purchasing one.

Since hubby has monthly injections at 2000chf a pop he reaches his franchise before the end of January and the 10% co-pay by the end of March at the latest so the rental costs him virtually nothing. It’s probably worth buying it if you have lower healthcare expenses in general.

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I am using Sleepyhead -a beta version from Australia downloaded from the internet that works fine and I really appreciate being able to follow the data (in a legal sense the data belongs to the patient) My Resmed is from the LungenLiga -covered by my insurance. I use essential oils applied to the air intake filter after reading blogs that suggested adding directly to the water is not a good idea -leaves stains on the plastic. The blogs that I read report no problems with the pump itself after long term oil usage though many people use a tissue spotted with oil next to the inlet. The Lungen Liga are bit schoolteacher like in their approach.
Where did you get that cool spider accessory?
Great to see someone here in Switzerland with success. Thanks KiwiSteve! Can you send me the link where i can download the functional version? People on the cpaptalk list have agreed to help me interpret, which will be fab. Vee
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I downloaded the Mac version from this site
http://sleepyhead.jedimark.net/

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