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Long(er) lasting ice packs - do they exist?

Have any of you ever found an ice pack that lasts longer than 15-20 minutes?

I need to ice my smashed-up knees and wrists. I have the standard blue (or orange) gel packs; while these work well for a short time, I would love to find something that maintains cold longer. Ideally a couple of hours, but I'd settle for anything longer than 15-20 minutes.

Does such a holy grail exist? And if so, where to find it?

I've seen a few on Amazon that claim to last several hours - but reviews say otherwise. I'd be grateful for real-life experiences and recommendations for products that really do work.


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Re: Long(er) lasting ice packs - do they exist?

What have you been doing to need this then?

Hospitals tend to use a pad that connects to a chilled reservoir, such that the patient can refresh the cold water periodically. My Google mojo is apparently weak at the moment, as I can't find the simple gravity-free devices I've experienced, but there's a few electrically-cooled or pumped gadgets around.

EDIT: Finally found one example, from which you may be able to find more https://www.healthproductsforyou.com...ty-cooler.html

EDIT2: Seems like the key term here is cryo cuff, e.g. https://www.amazon.com/cryo-cuff/s?k=cryo+cuff
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Old 31.03.2019, 12:56
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Getting old.

(Tripped over my own feet, landed on a metal street grate. I think my pride is hurting worse than the rest of me.)

Thanks for the suggestions!
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Re: Long(er) lasting ice packs - do they exist?

Oooh, that sounds painful! Here's wishing you a speedy recovery.
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Old 31.03.2019, 13:29
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Re: Long(er) lasting ice packs - do they exist?

Surely a powered version exists?
I have a little machine that makes 6 ice cubes every 5 minutes.. Same technology - heat transfer in a pad?


Did I just invent this?
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Old 31.03.2019, 13:59
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Re: Long(er) lasting ice packs - do they exist?

I’ve got 5 or 6 in the freezer at any one time so I can just rotate when the one in use warms up.
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Re: Long(er) lasting ice packs - do they exist?

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Have any of you ever found an ice pack that lasts longer than 15-20 minutes?

I need to ice my smashed-up knees and wrists. I have the standard blue (or orange) gel packs; while these work well for a short time, I would love to find something that maintains cold longer. Ideally a couple of hours, but I'd settle for anything longer than 15-20 minutes.

Does such a holy grail exist? And if so, where to find it?

I've seen a few on Amazon that claim to last several hours - but reviews say otherwise. I'd be grateful for real-life experiences and recommendations for products that really do work.


Many thanks.
Put your ice bag/gel pack into a plastic bag/ziplock, leaving air in. Apply moderate pressure on top to force air spread evenly, even in the crevasses of the gel pack close to your 'ouch' area. This air bubble will cool down, transfer the cold, but will keep your gel pack cold for longer. Use a thinner cloth between this contraption and the skin. This is a theory, btw, I'd love to get your feedback. See if theory works...
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Re: Long(er) lasting ice packs - do they exist?

Large bags of frozen peas should last a hour or so.

You might want to wrap the bag in a tea towel or another plastic bag though in case the original wrapping has been pierced during manufacture.
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Re: Long(er) lasting ice packs - do they exist?

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Large bags of frozen peas should last a hour or so.

You might want to wrap the bag in a tea towel or another plastic bag though in case the original wrapping has been pierced during manufacture.
I’ve got a 500g pack of frozen peas in my freezer just for that reason. I find them much better than ice packs as they adapt much better to the body part you need iced.
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Re: Long(er) lasting ice packs - do they exist?

Things is they need to suck a certain amount of heat out of your body to be functional, so if you buy packs that stay cold for longer and thus warm up slower they are less effective.

Buying several and start to rotate is the best solution imho.
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Re: Long(er) lasting ice packs - do they exist?

How about these? Not an icepack but a cooling wrist band. I use their products to keep my insulin cool (not cold) year round.

https://friouk.com/product/wrist-bands/

My Insulin wallets last for days.
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Have any of you ever found an ice pack that lasts longer than 15-20 minutes?

I need to ice my smashed-up knees and wrists. I have the standard blue (or orange) gel packs; while these work well for a short time, I would love to find something that maintains cold longer. Ideally a couple of hours, but I'd settle for anything longer than 15-20 minutes.

Does such a holy grail exist? And if so, where to find it?

I've seen a few on Amazon that claim to last several hours - but reviews say otherwise. I'd be grateful for real-life experiences and recommendations for products that really do work.


Many thanks.



Few bags of frozen peas, far better than any "gel packs"....not to mention cheaper and fairly easy to recyle
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Re: Long(er) lasting ice packs - do they exist?

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Few bags of frozen peas, far better than any "gel packs"....not to mention cheaper and fairly easy to recyle
As shopping for frozen peas was out of the question on Sunday, I had to make do with a bag of frozen blueberries that happend to be on hand. Lasted about 35 minutes, probably not as long as peas due to water content and consistency, but better than the gel packs.

Of course I had to recycle them once defrosted.

Blueberry muffins go a long way to easing pain.


Thanks for the suggestions, everyone!
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Re: Long(er) lasting ice packs - do they exist?

Sorry couldn‘t respond earlier. But, should you need icing again, an ice bag like this, along with the neoprene holder works at least an hour and is easily refilled if you have ice on hand.

https://www.vivomed.com/SearchResult...ivomed+ice+bag

Also, if you need icing for your knees or other joints on a regular basis, I can recommend this gadget.
https://www.physioroom.com/product/A...272/35982.html

There are different cuffs - shoulder, elbow, knee. I froze block of ice (about 1 liter) and put it in the canister, filled it with water and this is good to go for a couple of hours.

I probably spent a couple months icing one or the other knee last year. It‘s great relief for pain and swelling if done consistently.
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Re: Long(er) lasting ice packs - do they exist?

Oooooh - I've been looking for one of those for ages!

Had a similar ice bag decades ago (without the neoprene, it probably hadn't been invented yet) that I relied on to deal with migraine pain, it unfortunately got lost in one of our moves. Been searching for it's replacement ever since. Ice in one of these bags outperforms gel packs hands down.

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Aye, there's the rub.

OH is now using this accident to lobby for a fridge with an ice maker when we remodel the kitchen. I've been holding out for more counter space instead, but given that I have a few weeks of icing ahead I might soon find myself coming round to his way of thinking...

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Since we don‘t own and aren‘t handy, and i Love ice I bought an ice maker. Like this. If you have super hard water, filter it via a Brita or something and you won‘t have to clean it so often. Chf 150 vs chf ??,???

https://www.nettoshop.ch/en/Large-ho...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
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Few bags of frozen peas, far better than any "gel packs"....not to mention cheaper and fairly easy to recyle
I've got a gel-pack in our freezer that gets used fairly regularly and is at least fifteen years old - and better than peas.

You can use it hot too.

To the OP; just buy a couple and swap them around. Don't buy in Switzerland if you want to save money.

Another tip - don't use ibuprofen for the first couple of days - you really shouldn't stop the inflammation as it's part of the healing processes.

For something like cracked/bruised ribs - use warm packs as well as cold after a few days.
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Another tip - don't use ibuprofen for the first couple of days - you really shouldn't stop the inflammation as it's part of the healing processes.
No no no no no. This is absolutely not the case.

In most cases of joint injury the inflammation will actually inhibit healing, so anti-inflammatories are nearly always advised as a first-line treatment. There's no downside (except for possible gastric issues with heavy prolonged use in some people, easily avoided by taking PPIs, e.g Omeprazol).

One could argue that inflammation protects against further injury by disabling the joint, but that's more of an evolutionary throwback than anything else. Certainly immobilising a damaged joint is the very first thing you should do, following the RICE protocol, but reducing the inflammation is a_good_thing, so NSAIDs are nearly always recommended.
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No no no no no. This is absolutely not the case.

In most cases of joint injury the inflammation will actually inhibit healing, so anti-inflammatories are nearly always advised as a first-line treatment. There's no downside (except for possible gastric issues with heavy prolonged use in some people, easily avoided by taking PPIs, e.g Omeprazol).

One could argue that inflammation protects against further injury by disabling the joint, but that's more of an evolutionary throwback than anything else. Certainly immobilising a damaged joint is the very first thing you should do, following the RICE protocol, but reducing the inflammation is a_good_thing, so NSAIDs are nearly always recommended.
This is the advice I was given recently, too, when I tweaked my wrist. It was a query fracture but turned out to be just soft tissue damage. The hospital started me straight away on anti-inflammatories (which also helped with the pain), immobilised it, but only for a few days, and recommended cool packs. These days they are recommending that they shouldn't be "freezer cold" but fridge cold.

It's pretty out-dated these days to "let the body feel the pain and use the inflammation".
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RICE protocol,
Something I just learned that cracked me up:

RICE in German is PECH (Pausen, Eis, Compression, Hochlagern).

How appropriate.
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