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Re: Getting School sorted before moving to Zug

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Bringing the nanny here/along. It could have been avoided. IMHO

The intention is clear but it does sound as if it was written by an entitled....person. I don't know OP, maybe he's not. I hope he does appreciate he's in the position to hire the nanny and not the other way around.
Thanks guys for your understanding (for the one who do) and for helping my semantic (I am not native English speaker, obviously).

For those who doubt, this is definitely doable as a friend has just done it from Singapore to Zug. The difference being that his wife is Swiss citizen... not sure that makes a difference vs two European parents.
Also, our nanny will naturally want to go back to Paris every (other) weekend to Paris where her husband lives, so this also could make a difference (positive or not depending on whether she is considered a "Frontalier").
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Thanks guys for your understanding (for the one who do) and for helping my semantic (I am not native English speaker, obviously).

For those who doubt, this is definitely doable as a friend has just done it from Singapore to Zug. The difference being that his wife is Swiss citizen... not sure that makes a difference vs two European parents.
What do they advise? The situation sounds incredibly similar so their experiences should assist you. Being a Swiss citizen shouldn't make much difference.
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Re: Getting School sorted before moving to Zug

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What do they advise? The situation sounds incredibly similar so their experiences should assist you. Being a Swiss citizen shouldn't make much difference.
If I recall correctly from the multitude of threads here, permits for domestic workers are not subjected to quotas. I'm not sure if it's true though.
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Re: Getting School sorted before moving to Zug

i think being swiss makes a huge difference.



finding childcare in Zug is not easy at all and usually has long waiting lists. Its expat heavy with kids and lots of demand. friend of mine had to wait about a year for a good childcare.



doing that remotely will not be easy.
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Re: Getting School sorted before moving to Zug

Here is a related thread. Perhaps some parts will apply to your situation.
https://www.englishforum.ch/permits-...lp-non-eu.html
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Re: Getting School sorted before moving to Zug

You would need to look up the rules but what I know put of hear say is that Switzerland will allow this for one year to support family transition but then you would need to send your nanny back to Philippines.

Please be mindful of the Swiss working regulations as the nanny cannot work more then 42.5 hours (check in your canton) and definitely not on Sunday.

Check out this link where people are giving ideas and advice:

https://www.englishforum.ch/educatio...-holidays.html
(Zurich focused but not so different)
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i think being swiss makes a huge difference.



finding childcare in Zug is not easy at all and usually has long waiting lists. Its expat heavy with kids and lots of demand. friend of mine had to wait about a year for a good childcare.



doing that remotely will not be easy.
I guess it depends on where in Zug. Friends of ours moved there in October and registered both their daughters into a nursery straight away. This was in the centre of Zug near their workplaces.
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Re: Getting School sorted before moving to Zug

Thanks all,

I have found more solid information.

For taking non-EU members with you in Switzerland, they need to have been with the family for 2 years or more (which is our case) and then can stay for 2 years (1 year renewable (easily)) and sometimes (much more difficult) for longer.

Regarding working hours, it is the same rule that applies to them as for any other house employee i.e. 45 hours per week at normal hourly rate and anything above this at 25% premium. Also for holidays, 5 weeks below and above a certain age and 4 weeks in between.

The hourly rate cannot be the minimum if she/he has been working for over 4 years and needs to be increased to CHF 21.10 per hour (https://www.admin.ch/opc/fr/classifi...376/index.html) if no specific qualifications.

To be deducted from this hourly rate to determine the net paid salary though (I initially thought it was to be added for tax purposes) is the CHF 990/month for accomodation and food.

For Sundays and Saturdays, I am unsure but the issue would not apply to us since she would be back to France every weekend to see her husband.

I found a company (perfectway.ch) who charges quite a bit of money (CHF 2,500 + 7.7% VAT and you also need to pay CHF 600 to the Kanton for processing the request) to process the paperwork, but with apparently a 100% success rate (and 50% refund should they fail to get accepted).

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The hourly rate cannot be the minimum if she/he has been working for over 4 years and needs to be
To be deducted from this hourly rate to determine the net paid salary though (I initially thought it was to be added for tax purposes) is the CHF 990/month for accomodation and food.

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You would deduct it from the money you give her (i.e. the 21 CHF X hours worked monthly) but it's there for tax purposes as it's considered income.
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Re: Getting School sorted before moving to Zug

Hi Kri,

Sure, I fuly understand this... but paying taxes on CHF 990 per month is different from really paying CHF 990 extra in salary ;o)

Still, I love our nanny so much (despite wanting to "Import" her which offended so many) that I know (if she accepts to move with us, I will pay her much more than any other live-in nannies in switzerland.
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