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Old 08.03.2020, 14:54
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This has nothing to do with being in the European single market or not.
Fwiw Switzerland is mostly in the single market but not in customs union. Still irrelevant here anyway.
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Old 08.03.2020, 14:58
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... Israel and a couple of others have us on no-fly or no-fly if you don't have a place to quarantine in. Better triplecheck your travel insurance.
I'm not trusting the figures coming out of Israel since a group of 11 Greeks returned from there to Patras with the virus, yet Israel claims to only have 25 diagnosed cases.
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In comparison to population size, Switzerland seems to have a lot of confirmed cases. I wonder if this has a direct correlation with population density or possibly even lack of hygiene standards in public places.
I suspect it's largely down the population density, how it's spread out and transport. I compare Switzerland to Austria where the transport system is quite different in the regions and the major cities are more spread out, with the exception of Salzburg and Linz.
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Well, I think it does. It means that we have entry/exit border controls on goods. Something that doesn’t exist between Germany and France for example.
Germany has forbidden the export of such goods out of their country regardless of to which country it would be exported.
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Old 08.03.2020, 15:13
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Germany has forbidden the export of such goods out of their country regardless of to which country it would be exported.
It is also claimed China has requisitioned all the masks being manufactured in-country; China makes about 80% of the world supply.
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Old 08.03.2020, 15:17
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It is also claimed China has requisitioned all the masks being manufactured in-country; China makes about 80% of the world supply.
I've also mentioned in a previous post that this is gonna happen and I wasn't wrong.
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Old 08.03.2020, 15:41
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Agree. The numbers now being reported in CH are based on the usual algorithm used to report seasonal flu cases, with a factor in-line with the current severity.
So it’s really down to the common sense of all and everyone, to prevent the spread.
I agree. And if it is possible to be a bit positive about the situation - it will push everyone to be responsible when sick. Infrastructure will be cleaner, sanitized. Work places not expecting people to turn in sick (it does happen somewhere).I am honestly grateful these days to be living in a place that considers hygiene to have a high value in the society.
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Old 08.03.2020, 15:43
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Re: Coronavirus

https://www.reddit.com/r/HKGLounge/c...ed_masks_with/

Hong Kong doctor K Kwong designed this changeable filter mask which if you have some sewing skills, you can make at your own home:


"The HK Mask is composesd of a cotton mask cover and a specialized filter. The cover can be reused after decontaminating it with hot water or with ironing, while the filter, utilizing nano technology, has to be changed at a recommended rate of once every four hours. The cost of the filter is anticipated to be as low as HKD $2. K Kwong added that standard tissue paper can also be used in lieu of the specialized filter if the filters are not available, and explained that using two tissue as filter along with the cotton cover can already achieve 70% of the effect of N95 masks, filtering 70% of 0.3 micrometer particles in the air."


they did a lab test which shown two layers of tissue paper can filter 70% of 0.3 micrometer particles in the air. The motif is open source. This helped a lot of poor grassroot families in hong kong who cannot afford masks in rip-off prices.

Believe it or not, do your own research.
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Old 08.03.2020, 15:44
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So borders need to remain open for the people to spread the virus but those same borders will be closed for supplies that would help tackle the virus those people bring in. Freaking brilliant, thanks for the southern neighbor for demanding borders remain open so that virus comes in and thanks for the northern neighbor to ensure it will f us up by stopping protective supplies coming in. Brilliant, just brilliant.
'coronavirus welcome'
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Old 08.03.2020, 15:52
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'coronavirus welcome'
It welcomes itself, with or without us, tbh.

I hate to see politicians, though, cashing in on people's panic and feeding it. Swiss conservative approach might have a reason. And not just for the economy.
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Old 08.03.2020, 16:01
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Italy is closing ALL ski resorts it seems!
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Re: Coronavirus

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CORONAVIRUS LATEST UPDATE...


The English are feeling the pinch in relation to current virus threat and have therefore raised their threat level
from “Miffed” to “Peeved.”

Soon though, level may be raised yet again to “Irritated” or even “A Bit Cross.”
The English have not been “A Bit Cross” since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies nearly ran out.
The virus has been re-categorized from “Tiresome” to “A Bloody Nuisance.” The last time the British issued a “Bloody Nuisance” warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish Armada.
The Scots have raised their threat level from “Pissed Off” to “Let's Get the *******.” They don't have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.
The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its alert level from “Run” to “Hide.” The only two higher levels in France are “Collaborate” and “Surrender.” The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country's military capability.
Italy has increased the alert level from “Shout Loudly and Excitedly” to “Elaborate Military Posturing.” Two more levels remain: “Ineffective Combat Operations” and “Change Sides.”
The Germans have increased their alert state from “Disdainful Arrogance” to “Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs.” They also have two higher levels: “Invade a Neighbour” and “Lose.”
Belgians, on the other hand are all on holiday as usual; the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels.
The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.
Australia, meanwhile, has raised its alert level from “No worries” to “She'll be alright, Mate.” Two more escalation levels remain: “Crikey! I think we'll need to cancel the barbie this weekend!” and “The barbie is cancelled.” So far, no situation has ever warranted use of the final escalation level.
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Old 08.03.2020, 16:08
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In comparison to population size, Switzerland seems to have a lot of confirmed cases. I wonder if this has a direct correlation with population density or possibly even lack of hygiene standards in public places.
yes. Some of the toilets in CH would make third world toilets look like the Queens throne!

And the older Swiss only wash on a Sunday!
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Old 08.03.2020, 16:42
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Re: Coronavirus

Having had to ring the BAG hotline in the middle of the night and the local emergency number, we have been told that from tomorrow all hospitals in CH will be able to test for the virus and also x-ray and thoroughly check prospective patients. Currently it seems they cannot do this.
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Old 08.03.2020, 16:53
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Re: Coronavirus

We now have two threads separate from this one, about way to keep safe:

How to make your own hand sanitizer, started by swissnyc.
https://www.englishforum.ch/family-m...sanitizer.html

How to make your own protective mask, started by Spaghetti
https://www.englishforum.ch/daily-li...ml#post3155793

I've moved my post about masks over there.

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Having had to ring the BAG hotline in the middle of the night and the local emergency number, we have been told that from tomorrow all hospitals in CH will be able to test for the virus and also x-ray and thoroughly check prospective patients. Currently it seems they cannot do this.
Even so, we've been told that one must not proceed to the hospital in the hope of a test, but should always first phone to get permission, which will be granted only one is deemed a serious enough case.
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Even so, we've been told that one must not proceed to the hospital in the hope of a test, but should always first phone to get permission, which will be granted only one is deemed a serious enough case.
And it also would be nice to know where to go in case of a test, in Basel for example the hospital has started to use a church for such to get some traffic away from the hospital.
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Even so, we've been told that one must not proceed to the hospital in the hope of a test, but should always first phone to get permission, which will be granted only one is deemed a serious enough case.
Indeed. The issue we came up against was that no testing is done in the night. Seems reasonable but our case was pressing for a particular reason. Everyone agreed that our son should be admitted to hospital, but he couldn't be as he could not be tested. Something of a chicken and egg situation. I have to say a lot of sensible advice was sought and given which in the end has been completely over ridden by a government agency that takes precedence.
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Wow, Klostersgirl, that sounds scary! I hope your son can soon get the help he needs.
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Old 08.03.2020, 17:12
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And it also would be nice to know where to go in case of a test, in Basel for example the hospital has started to use a church for such to get some traffic away from the hospital.
Neuchâtel has a special centre in the basement of the hospital with a separate entrance to keep it totally isolated from the hospital itself.
The hospital in La Chaux de Fonds has special isolated cubicles For testing up there.

They have stressed that people should téléphone beforehand and only go there if instructed to do so.
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Germany has forbidden the export of such goods out of their country regardless of to which country it would be exported.
Little bit difficult to enforce when you have borders with 9 countries and only one of which has customs checks.

Not saying that anyone would cheat but, ...
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