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Nasty stuff. It did not get horded. Ever. Though one learns how to soften it....etc. Never use newspaper, the printing ink is toxic, dtto for making a paper maché, always wear gloves. The glue in it and ink aren't heathy.
Huh. Never knew that. Made loads of Papier mache in the 60s and 70s from newsprint. No gloves. Uh-oh.
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Noth ''Les personnes à risque doivent impérativement éviter les personnes malades. Les visites en EMS ou dans les hôpitaux sont à prohiber.''

I know, I know - and yet... why not allow one person, the next of kin, into an OAP care home- and screen them, and ask them to visit the person in their room rather than the common room. A bit of humanity for those who are dying, and will feel totally abandonned in their great hour of need, fear, terror, confusion? (I believe you know the person I am talking about- truly breaks my heart).
Yes Odile, it is a terrible situation. I particularly empathise with those in elderly care facilities. It‘s just dreadful that visitations are not allowed, but at the same time understandable. The situation is just awful, beyond anything that most of us have had to deal with in our lives.

Solidarity is called for. I hate the way that my „no-risk“ daughter is still going about her every day life, except that she can‘t have any physical presence in the Uni until earliest end August (everything closed), study in the Uni library, continue playing sports (all sport centers closed). And after Austria has just announced a ban of gatherings over 5 people, even her newly formed home study-group (to combat the closures) to get her through the last couple of months of her masters will most probably also have to be cancelled.

Not to mention the separate vacations she and I have just had to cancel (me, in May on a Danish Island purely for walking - Denmark has banned anyone not Danish from entering it‘s borders), and her hard worked for end of masters couple of weeks travel in Canada before starting her (already in-place job) in October. I just realise that we all have to remain strong.

And I believe that most of us are still in-shock.

There are also heart-warming stories, like the younger people creating social groups to care for the elderly in anyway they can. Buying groceries and so on for the elderly, and leaving them at the door. Luckily, my daughter is also one of those.

Hopefully, there will some way through this nightmare.
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Old 15.03.2020, 14:52
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800 new cases in 1 day - after Italy, Spain now Switzerland is in the same situation.

BL closes everything and declares state of emergency

Council member of VD finally starts to say that everybody 65+ need absolutely to stay at home and not go out
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Old 15.03.2020, 14:53
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Same for NE - but they will have to make exceptions for care homes, hospitals and other medical personel - as the staff would be cut by approx 80% at a time when they are more needed than ever.
What should happen is to keep the most needed prescreened commuters live-in the EMS, hospices and hospitals. I am sure it is happening with some.
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800 new cases in 1 day - after Italy, Spain now Switzerland is in the same situation.

BL closes everything and declares state of emergency

Council member of VD finally starts to say that everybody 65+ need absolutely to stay at home and not go out
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think those 800 cases are the combined numbers from yesterday and today. At least that's how I interpret the tweet from the BAG. https://twitter.com/BAG_OFSP_UFSP/st...64578560425985
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I think those 800 cases are the combined numbers from yesterday and today. At least that's how I interpret the tweet from the BAG. https://twitter.com/BAG_OFSP_UFSP/st...64578560425985
Makes no difference, still today there will be a lot of cases that will be reported only tomorrow.

The number 800 is conclusive as of 2-3 hours ago and we still have 12 hours left of today
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Old 15.03.2020, 15:10
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Re: Coronavirus

All non-essential stores in Basel Land will be closed from 6am tomorrow until further notice.
Germany is also closing their border with Switzerland (and also France and Austria) from 8am tomorrow.
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Old 15.03.2020, 15:20
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All non-essential stores in Basel Land will be closed from 6am tomorrow until further notice.
Germany is also closing their border with Switzerland (and also France and Austria) from 8am tomorrow.
Waiting to see what the details are for the Germans closing the border with Switzerland. It will be interesting to see how this will work given the number of Germans that work in Switzerland. Depending on how long these measures last it could have a devastating effect on many businesses that benefit from Swiss money. All the package collection places, not to mention the grocery store which will get a lot quieter (much more room to park ). It's probably a wise move given the current circumstances.

Closing thought: I wonder whether the saying "absence makes the heart grow fonder" will apply to German stores once the closure is lifted?
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Old 15.03.2020, 15:21
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No matter the cause, those temperatures itself for some time will not hurt or damage your kid.
In most cases, no. But depending on many other things -age, other symptoms - this wholesale dismissal is not helpful or accurate.
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What should happen is to keep the most needed prescreened commuters live-in the EMS, hospices and hospitals. I am sure it is happening with some.
Yes- good idea. But many have young children at home + schools and crêches closed- and grand-parents are not allowed to look after them ... so not so simple. What would you do, for instance?
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Old 15.03.2020, 15:34
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Makes no difference, still today there will be a lot of cases that will be reported only tomorrow.

The number 800 is conclusive as of 2-3 hours ago and we still have 12 hours left of today
If the BAG makes the math at the same time every day it does make a difference, yes there might/will be more cases today but to calculate daily increases we need to look at daily numbers - and not at numbers when they are reported.
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Old 15.03.2020, 15:36
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Same for NE - but they will have to make exceptions for care homes, hospitals and other medical personel - as the staff would be cut by approx 80% at a time when they are more needed than ever.
Less than 10% of the total number of frontaliers working in the canton of Neuchâtel work in the health sector (hospitals, homes etc) with the majority of them being women.
If they limit the frontalier traffic to just those essential people it would massively reduce the number of people crossing the border every day.
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Old 15.03.2020, 15:38
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Well yes, of course, and that would make sense.
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Makes no difference, still today there will be a lot of cases that will be reported only tomorrow.

The number 800 is conclusive as of 2-3 hours ago and we still have 12 hours left of today
Yep, and yesterday there was an update including the numbers up to then, so this really is like the last 24 hrs.
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Old 15.03.2020, 15:45
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The Germans closing the border the way they have is quite ridiculous in my view. Either do it or don't, but letting commuters back and forth undermines the whole thing (like they are immune). And, saying that the Swiss were emptying the German supermarkets is lame...what about the Austrians and the French? Germany also closed the borders there. They probably would have done to Poland too, had the Poles not been quicker.
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Old 15.03.2020, 16:01
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I‘m used to working from home.

Found this, that my daughter shared with me a couple of weeks ago, lightened my day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYu_...ature=youtu.be
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Old 15.03.2020, 16:13
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Switzerland and UK being called out here.

"The U.K. and Switzerland are effectively not trying to combat the coronavirus and cases there are likely to surge in the coming weeks, a Singapore minister said." https://www.bloomberg.com/

I think it's a bit harsh, i think Switzerland has done more than UK IMO...but maybe more can be done?

Also we have been issued new border restrictions for flights too:
People who enter Singapore with recent travel history to ASEAN countries, Japan, Switzerland or the United Kingdom will be issued with a 14-day stay-home notice.https://www.channelnewsasia.com/

And Singapore will block entry or transit for visitors with travel history to Italy, France, Spain and Germany within the last 14 days, amid a surge of COVID-19 cases in Europe.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/


I have two friends who are affected by this, one coming back from UK and the other from Switzerland, and when they say stay at home notice - it is in essence a quarantine where you cannot leave your residence at all.
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Old 15.03.2020, 16:25
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I think it's a bit harsh, i think Switzerland has done more than UK IMO...but maybe more can be done?
Agreed, it's a bit weird when at the same time some other European countries didn't even stop big (sport) events until recently. The next step will be to close all stores, restaurants and clubs. Wouldn't be suprised if this would come next week in Switzerland as some cantons have already started to move towards that direction. It would be the reasonable thing to do.
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Old 15.03.2020, 16:30
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Switzerland and UK being called out here.

"The U.K. and Switzerland are effectively not trying to combat the coronavirus and cases there are likely to surge in the coming weeks, a Singapore minister said." https://www.bloomberg.com/

I think it's a bit harsh, i think Switzerland has done more than UK IMO...but maybe more can be done?

Also we have been issued new border restrictions for flights too:
People who enter Singapore with recent travel history to ASEAN countries, Japan, Switzerland or the United Kingdom will be issued with a 14-day stay-home notice.https://www.channelnewsasia.com/

And Singapore will block entry or transit for visitors with travel history to Italy, France, Spain and Germany within the last 14 days, amid a surge of COVID-19 cases in Europe.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/


I have two friends who are affected by this, one coming back from UK and the other from Switzerland, and when they say stay at home notice - it is in essence a quarantine where you cannot leave your residence at all.
Sorry, but this is completely and utterly crap
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Old 15.03.2020, 16:32
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Our politicians need to stay factual and not political during this time. Forget the name-shaming and rhetoric in order to secure more votes - this is the time to lead and not campaign.
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