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Been very moved by the reaction in my region- as said earlier. Within minutes of the announcement of schools closing- a FB group sprung up with lots of people coming forwards with offer of help, in a 100 of ways.

Yes- keep an eye out for elderly neighbours- put a note in letter box or through the door with offers to help. Awful times, and the stock piling has shown us the worst- let's redress with the best of humanity and solidarity.
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Old 15.03.2020, 19:51
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Time to switch to your smaller local shops and independent fruit, veg, butchers, bakers... we have 2 local mini markets and 1 butcher offering free home deliveries to anyone affected.
We have a small general store with some food/self-service post office/tea room/bar and that's it. Fromagerie as well. I assume they'll stay open for the time being.

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Physical supermarkets will remain open. Large enough amount of the population is so little no not effected that we can keep all basic needs running.

Delivery is at this moment simply lacking manpower.

If you need a car and don't have one but are in need of things, best to ask a neighbour to do some shopping tomorrow morning.

Skipping supermarkets and start supporting your local stores also helps to keep supplies going in your neighbourhood, I've seen supermarkets having run out of a lot of things, and the Turkish store 20o meters away hardly had a customer and all shelfs stocked.
Think what husband's thinking of is we're both in the vulnerable categories so not really good for either of us to go out and shop. We did do a pretty good stock up yesterday so okay for most stuff for a couple of weeks I think. But milk will be needed as husband drinks a lot of it and maybe a few other bits and pieces. Don't think the farmer opposite us sells milk direct.
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Been very moved by the reaction in my region- as said earlier. Within minutes of the announcement of schools closing- a FB group sprung up with lots of people coming forwards with offer of help, in a 100 of ways.

Yes- keep an eye out for elderly neighbours- put a note in letter box or through the door with offers to help. Awful times, and the stock piling has shown us the worst- let's redress with the best of humanity and solidarity.
Is that FB group, and a non-FB contact such as mail or a phone number, registered on https://www.hilf-jetzt.ch/? I think that can help, too.
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Old 15.03.2020, 19:54
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Ask your local mini-market if they will deliver. As said, ours does. The Laiterie is always opened- and, thanks for reminding me- we have a large self-service dispenser for cheese, milk and yogurt.

This is a lovely place near you


www.lapenseesauvage.ch

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Old 15.03.2020, 20:03
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I don't know what the Swiss gov't is waiting for. How many more cases or how many more deaths have to occur until restaurants, malls, etc. are closed? The border with Italy should have been closed weeks ago (apart from maybe necessary medical personnel). I can't imagine that this is going to start to get any better unless more public places (restaurants, Ikea, theaters, etc.) are shut down and people are more forced to isolate themselves away from the public. Everyone is going to have to do their part and sacrifice a little bit if we hope for this to become better.
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Old 15.03.2020, 20:05
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Pancakes, ironically, the Swiss government and business decisions are, it seems to be, rather shortsighted. For now, they are about insurances, and about trying to pass the buck. Each organistion hopes that the decision to lock down will be taken by another authority than themselves, so that someone else will bear the cost. Medium and long-term, we're all going to bear it.
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Old 15.03.2020, 20:06
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Re: Coronavirus

A friend works 100% at Swiss, due to limited flights they claim they were informed yesterday that this month's salary will be cut by 5% and then each following month by another 5% to a maximum of 20% until the situation improves.
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Old 15.03.2020, 20:07
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Thank you, French is also no problem.

I was also worried about a reportage that appeared in the Tages Anzeiger a couple of weeks ago. Can’t find it on the TA search function anymore (seems to be as nearly as bad as EF). But they also stated that test results show that people that take medicamentation to reduce their blood-pressure are also under special risk (count me in).

Since then, I don‘t have any idea if I‘m in a Risk group or not, although I‘m under 65 and with the medis. only have hypotension nowadays (blood pressure below 120 over 80).

I don‘t know, confusion everywhere, and chaos elsewhere.

Lots going around. Like in war days, there needs to be a central information point.

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Yes, there have been several reports in medical journals about possible interactions with ACE inhibitors, but it’s unclear. Check with your own physicians.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...116-8/fulltext
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Old 15.03.2020, 20:08
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It only comes into effect from 8AM tomorrow (Monday) morning.
Welcome home, hope that your OH makes it as well.
So much for Schengen
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Old 15.03.2020, 20:14
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Husband suggesting we may need to get food delivered at some point if this keeps up. Looked at Migros' Le Shop and there's an hour's queue to place an order with the earliest delivery on Thursday, 26th March.

Who else does online ordering and delivery just in case it's needed? Can't see that Coop do it and don't know of any other supermarkets that do.
We do Coop@home. I just placed an order this morning for delivery on March 20. It depends on your area....I’m in Winterthur.

I also order from farmy.ch - not sure if they operate in your area. An order placed Friday will be delivered tomorrow.

I’ve found that shopping at TopCC is useful because the store is bigger with wider aisles. Easier to stay 2m away from someone, especially if you choose a less busy time.
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Old 15.03.2020, 20:18
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Pancakes, ironically, the Swiss government and business decisions are, it seems to be, rather shortsighted. For now, they are about insurances, and about trying to pass the buck. Each organistion hopes that the decision to lock down will be taken by another authority than themselves, so that someone else will bear the cost. Medium and long-term, we're all going to bear it.
Yeah, I had a feeling that the Swiss gov't has been more concerned about impacts on the insurance industry here and the economy overall. For a government that requires mandatory military service, has nuclear bunkers, hands out iodine tablets for radiation, etc., you'd think they'd do a little more in terms of trying to protect their citizens' health from a pandemic -- particularly when one of the worst hit areas is our neighbor to the south.
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Well, by doing nothing I mean they should have closed the borders long time ago and limit people's movement. Edelweiss is still flying to Italy; there was an article in an online paper reporting how party-goers were disappointed by the 50 people per venue limit. There is a whole lot of complaining going on about the restrictions imposed and a good portion of the people chose to disregard common sense and proceed with business as usual. Luxury goods stores are open, while people are bum-rushing stores in order to get their hands on the last few items. That's what I mean by doing nothing, they should have implemented a more drastic approach a month ago.
My comment refers to what Singapore's officials said, not what you implied. That's what I find weird, that they single out the UK and Switzerland. Could have been done more and could it have been done sooner? Yes. Is Switzerland doing nothing to stop the virus? No. Again, some of our neighbors had full football stations with 50k spectators until a week ago, also carnival and other big events (where also some Swiss attended and got infected). Yes, people need to change their behavior, and I do see quite some of those changes. But maybe we just disagree there.
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Old 15.03.2020, 20:20
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So much for Schengen
Schengen wouldn't allow Germany confiscating Swiss masks.
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Old 15.03.2020, 20:23
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368 deaths in Italy today, if anymore evidence were needed that China weren’t being honest with their numbers. Speaking of which, skim reading the first 20-30 pages of this discussion is quite interesting. Those that warned of how dangerous this was were not taken too seriously. There’s a lesson in there somewhere I think!
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Old 15.03.2020, 20:32
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Schengen wouldn't allow Germany confiscating Swiss masks.
Schengen is about the movement of people, not goods; are you trolling?
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Old 15.03.2020, 20:47
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368 deaths in Italy today, if anymore evidence were needed that China weren’t being honest with their numbers. Speaking of which, skim reading the first 20-30 pages of this discussion is quite interesting. Those that warned of how dangerous this was were not taken too seriously. There’s a lesson in there somewhere I think!
I've doubted the Chinese numbers and still do.

However I have also no doubt that when things got on a roll they took measurements of a level that I can still only dream of for here. (tho not the welding in please), given how they started to start up everything again and slowly release restrictions they regardless of numbers have gotten control on the virus and its spread. Lots to be learned from there.
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Schengen is about the movement of people, not goods; are you trolling?
Let's try to be a bit more friendly towards at least those of whom we know they do not mean to troll.
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This is what the US measures have led to. If you go into the US healthy, then you will most certainly come out of the airport infected:

It felt like they were encouraging disease'
Twenty-year-old Tim Clancy, who travelled through O'Hare International Airport in Chicago this weekend, told the BBC the environment was "really hectic".

"There were hundreds of people in the customs area...It took two-and-a-half hours to reach one customs agent and then I was directed to another and had to snake back round to them."

Clancy, who was returning from studying in Greece, said it took him about five hours to get through the screening. A nurse checked his temperature before he was allowed to leave the airport.

"I felt there wasn’t a lot of access to hand sanitiser or restrooms because you’d likely lose your place in the queue - I didn’t see too many people coughing though," he added.

"After being on a plane where everyone was tightly packed in it felt like they were encouraging the disease to spread rather than doing anything to curb it
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Eh?
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Is that FB group, and a non-FB contact such as mail or a phone number, registered on https://www.hilf-jetzt.ch/? I think that can help, too.
Doropfiz, thank you for your post.
Yes, yes and yes:

https://www.hilf-jetzt.ch/
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