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Hi all,

I'm posting this again because it got lost in the mix.

Anyone have any info for work at home parents? I have been asked to let my employer know how much I am actually able to work at home with my kids around. Can someone clarify for me what the implications of that might be?

I get that if I work less than contracted, that they would probably pay me less? I have tried to find alternate care but everything is closed, and all those who could help are older/immunocompromised, or still have to go to work. I will take this week to figure out what is a reasonable number of working hours given my circumstances.

Thanks in advance for any links, much appreciated. All the best to everyone.

It is curious that your line manager cannot ask this kind of questions. Being a manager implies a bit more that enjoying the title. It is taking responsibility when things become complicate. Did you already ask?
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Old 18.03.2020, 18:08
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2: Define ful lock-down.
Nobody leaves home for any reason.

Even Italy does not have full lockdown.

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Re: Coronavirus

Well once more we find Expats basking under the rays of their Sunlamps in lockdown Spain, as the virus
stalks the Peninsular and so it's at times like this, that we must once more check out whether
this is the opening chapter of one of those dire predictions, that we so enjoy from the British
tabloid press.



Today's prediction is - Dinosaurs will roam the earth again by 2050

Yes no doubt Daily Express readers will remember this classic from four years ago, where the Adam Smith
institute predicts the return of T-Rex and other prehistoric creatures thanks to cloning.

Daily Express - The Return of the Dinosaurs by 2050

So during the first week of lockdown are there any signs of Dinosaurs emerging and roaming the
streets of Spain yet ?

Well with many people staying at home the conditions are favourable for T-Rex and his friends to
venture out onto the deserted streets and fortunately ( for us ) the Spanish Police in Murcia were
on hand to roundup T-Rex before he does any real damage during the present lockdown.

Police video of the Dinosaur roaming the streets of Murcia ! ! !
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Re: Coronavirus

Digitec sent this mail out today:

https://www.digitec.ch/de/page/schwe...ium=newsletter

Due to the huge increase in demand from online shopping, Digitec is looking for additional employees. They specifically want to connect with customer-focused businesses who have had to lay off their employees - gastro, retail, etc.

One can also apply as an individual, the contact info is on the page linked above.

If someone you know has been laid off due to the emergency measures, perhaps pass this info on.

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I would hope other over-capacity companies will also try connect with those out of work. Does anyone know if there is some kind of coordination at the government level going on?


(Disclaimer - I have no connection to Digitec, just an occasional customer.)
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Old 18.03.2020, 18:19
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Re: Coronavirus

Sadly, crisis are good for scammers

"We are currently receiving reports of fake telephone calls allegedly made on behalf of the Federal Office of Public Health to conduct surveys and to inquire about health status and other personal details."
https://twitter.com/GovCERT_CH/statu...66407506276358

I got a call today from 041 567 01 67 about this. I answered because home office and maybe is a client who always dialed the office number and you don't know their mobile number. After answering I checked https://tel.search.ch/?tel=04156701 then just hanged up without saying anything.
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Re: Coronavirus

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When looking at Wiki best to look at the source of such data, very often it takes long time before wiki updates such. Their source gives currently 46.5 Median age for Italy.

Thanks, It is true indeed, I corrected both Italy and Switzerland on my previous post


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But more factors contribute, in Italy old people are much more a part of society than in countries like Switzerland where a lot just get tossed in a home for the elderly or if they are home a visit to grandpa is often seen as a burden so they have much more contact with the younger generations and thus get more easily infected.

True, we still have 2 or more generations living very close if not even under the same roof. Grand parents are used instead of daycare for childrens to say the least.

Let's just hope that another Italian peculiarity, the high number of students and workers who returned to the south from Lombardy, will not make things too much worse.
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Nobody leaves home for any reason.

Even Italy does not have full lockdown.

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I know, but I am curious what he would have to say.
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Old 18.03.2020, 18:25
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Re: Coronavirus

Ozone kills viruses. This morning i had the idea of using an ozone generator to decontaminate things- putting potentially contaminated things in the car and running the o3 for an hr or so, then airing it out.

They're stilll available on amazon, unlike most other anti- virus stuff.
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Ozone kills viruses. This morning i had the idea of using an ozone generator to decontaminate things- putting potentially contaminated things in the car and running the o3 for an hr or so, then airing it out.

They're stilll available on amazon, unlike most other anti- virus stuff.
Make sure to remove your favorite kid before implementing the ozone kill zone.
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Old 18.03.2020, 18:53
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Not quite, people being fined €135 for ski touring yesterday, 'à proximité du domicile' are the key words so close to home is allowed.
https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actual...-professionnel
I saw two girls running together close to here (Alsace) yesterday, but maybe they hadn't heard yet.

I went shopping today, having been made aware that you must not leave the house without a "permission slip". Really just a self-declaration of the reason you're out, seems a bit strange but I guess it makes people think even more about doing so. Full details of French gov measures in force here. in case they've not already been posted.

Roads were nearly empty, supermarkets generally well stocked but not as busy as I'd normally expect. One or two signs of panic-buying, like the pasta and rice shelf at Lidl was completely empty, although more pasta (perhaps a premium brand?) was available elsewhere in the store. Plenty of toilet paper, which I didn't get, having an unopened ten-pack at home already.

Plenty of almost everything, really, especially at the big E.leClerc I then went to for things that Lidl doesn't stock. No sign of anything odd, nor were any areas cordoned off, which I was glad to see, as it looks like I need a new battery for the VW that's been sat here for the last three months unused. (Still trying to charge it, will see tomorrow.)
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Hi all,

I'm posting this again because it got lost in the mix.



Anyone have any info for work at home parents? I have been asked to let my employer know how much I am actually able to work at home with my kids around. Can someone clarify for me what the implications of that might be?
I don't have any links nor official info but for now - if I were in your situation, I would say that you can work as much as your contract says. Let them then come up with what their plans are.
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Is there a scheduled time for a press conference today?
Think it already ended by the time you posted. For us in the country not much changed today.
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yes each day. i think tonight will be announcement of full lockdown.
Such unfounded nonsense. If there is a lockdown you will be the only one
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It is curious that your line manager cannot ask this kind of questions. Being a manager implies a bit more that enjoying the title. It is taking responsibility when things become complicate. Did you already ask?

Yes, I did ask but my line manager basically said that I can work as flexibly as I need to, as long as I work all the hours. No mention (omission?) of what happens if I can't manage all the hours due to childcare/school work.


Around here, the care is only for people who have jobs in the essential sectors (doctors, nurses, etc.).


Thank you to those who have replied!
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The moment they are intubated is the end of conscious life for those who die, if you are intubated you'll be put in an artificial sleep, So no suffering during the intubation period itself.

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Category: Unhealthy people have higher chance of death, I'd find it more interesting if this was not the case.
If by intubation, you mean on a ventilator, that’s not necessarily true. My father was on a ventilator for several months and he was awake. In fact, I had to ask him if he wanted the ventilator turned off at one point when things looked bad.Eventually, he got off the vent but died anyway several months later from sepsis.
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I thought I should buy a thermometer, I am very rarely ill & know my temperature is on the low side of average. I check it today 35.1 & google suggests I have hypothermia
Mine is frequently in the 35’s, low 36’s. Could be operator error, thermometer error, or just weird. Did you do it a couple of times?
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Old 18.03.2020, 19:44
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Droplets fall to the ground, aerosols stay in the air.
Hence their names.
DROPlets.
AERosols.
BALL or AEROsol?

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Old 18.03.2020, 19:45
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Bizarre. I just went to the large Migros downstairs at Limmatplatz in ZH. In the fruit and veg section they had loads of fresh flowers... all taped off, not for sale.

Further through the shop everything was open. Kitchenware, cleaning, electrical, stationary and clothes all on sale. But no flowers
Stupid, as the flowers are already cut and transported there. They will now die lonely at Migros.
Not buying more after selling those would make sense. This is just a waste.

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I saw two girls running together close to here (Alsace) yesterday, but maybe they hadn't heard yet.

I went shopping today, having been made aware that you must not leave the house without a "permission slip". Really just a self-declaration of the reason you're out, seems a bit strange but I guess it makes people think even more about doing so. Full details of French gov measures in force here. in case they've not already been posted.

Roads were nearly empty, supermarkets generally well stocked but not as busy as I'd normally expect. One or two signs of panic-buying, like the pasta and rice shelf at Lidl was completely empty, although more pasta (perhaps a premium brand?) was available elsewhere in the store. Plenty of toilet paper, which I didn't get, having an unopened ten-pack at home already.

Plenty of almost everything, really, especially at the big E.leClerc I then went to for things that Lidl doesn't stock. No sign of anything odd, nor were any areas cordoned off, which I was glad to see, as it looks like I need a new battery for the VW that's been sat here for the last three months unused. (Still trying to charge it, will see tomorrow.)
Or they're siblings, living on top of each other 23 hours a day and thought, that hour outside won't make a difference?
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Old 18.03.2020, 19:48
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I thought I should buy a thermometer, I am very rarely ill & know my temperature is on the low side of average. I check it today 35.1 & google suggests I have hypothermia
I got two. Both advertising gifts. BUT: Nowadays they are electronic, running on batteries.
I wonder if government thought of that when they told the shops to block those sections off.
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Old 18.03.2020, 19:50
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Think it already ended by the time you posted. For us in the country not much changed today.
Okay. Thank you!
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