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People over 65 years old in Kanton Uri now have a curfew and are not allowed out apart from two hours a day alone or in pairs for walking themselves and/or pets.
And people wonder why gun sales are up.

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Old 19.03.2020, 17:55
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And people wonder why gun sales are up.

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Nah, after 4 days with my wife at home I think the main reason is homeworking
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Old 19.03.2020, 17:56
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It's going marvelously. There is a mute button.

Seriously now, I cannot see the students repeating a year as the wishes from some I know suggested. I do not think it is possible. I wonder, it has worked so far really well since Monday but I know it can tough for some students to stress and still have to focus and work alone, for some parents to be able to sit down and explain stuff, especially if it is in a local language, to be applied and performing when all feels just like simple homework when in reality it is real school and the content might not be reviewed again. Yet, week one only. It will all smooth out by the wknd, I bet. Thoughts to all online and distance students and teachers and parents!
You work in a private school right?

Because in public schools things aren’t going well at all. The server we were suppose to use to communicate with our students and send them work has been down all week and and is now close until next Monday. I can’t even get my professional emails anymore.

Plus most parents have to work from home, key word being work. Many families share a single computer (if they have one!), and many don’t have a printer. Thus sitting down to do school work is not exactly possible for many parents. And I’m not even speaking of parents who don’t speak the local language.
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Old 19.03.2020, 17:58
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Not the most important thing, but the F1 GP of Netherlands, Spain and Monaco have been postponed

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...ncement_OptOut
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Old 19.03.2020, 17:58
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It's going marvelously. There is a mute button.

Seriously now, I cannot see the students repeating a year as the wishes from some I know suggested. I do not think it is possible. I wonder, it has worked so far really well since Monday but I know it can tough for some students to stress and still have to focus and work alone, for some parents to be able to sit down and explain stuff, especially if it is in a local language, to be applied and performing when all feels just like simple homework when in reality it is real school and the content might not be reviewed again. Yet, week one only. It will all smooth out by the wknd, I bet. Thoughts to all online and distance students and teachers and parents!
This self-isolation could go on, perhaps with even stricter conditions (lockdown), for three months or more... which takes us to the end of the school year. Realistically, I don't see kids putting in a concerted effort to study on their own, treating every day at home with all the distractions as a real school day. Not my kids, anyway.

At primary school level, it doesn't really matter all that much if kids miss a quarter of the year. But at higher levels, and of course at gym, it would be very tough to continue with three months' education missing. Unfortunately, I think repeating a year is a very real possibility for many children at the moment. That in itself would create some interesting logistical issues, as this year's crop that does move up a year may be very small, while the year below could be almost double the usual size.

Not a very nice situation, especially for those doing the Matura this year.
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Please, can you explain for my friend who has 4 kids, aged 5 to 11 - where is it?

''It's going marvelously. There is a mute button.''

Another retired teacher friend posted this, and we had a good giggle ''Thousands of parents are about to find out that the teacher was not the problem'

ah- karma. And Williamson has just admitted that schools in the UK will not re-open until ..... September.

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Old 19.03.2020, 18:01
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Plus most parents have to work from home, key word being work. Many families share a single computer (if they have one!), and many don’t have a printer. Thus sitting down to do school work is not exactly possible for many parents. And I’m not even speaking of parents who don’t speak the local language.
If people have to work at home, don't they get computers and stuff from work to do so?

For me to work at home partially would require 2-3 computers, lan, internet access, etc.

To work fully, 12m2 of floor space and a truck to deliver it all, and the power to run it.

Alas, my home office has no electricity, nor internet, as I would have to use the rustico.

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Old 19.03.2020, 18:02
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Would be nice to quantify their condition before they got the virus though.


From what I have read and seen, and I am not defending this position, the people ending up in hospital and dying are the elderly and ill.
There are things on the internet saying the Italian hospitals are full of younger people as well. But I've not seen anything from any 'official' source.
Look here about younger people, from the US but no reason to be very different from Italy.
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Old 19.03.2020, 18:03
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And Williamson has just admitted that schools in the UK will not re-open until ..... September.
There you go. Children will miss a quarter of the year. It's bound to happen here, too.
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Old 19.03.2020, 18:06
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Nah, after 4 days with my wife at home I think the main reason is homeworking
Well, I have three chainsaws and a place to use them should it become necessary.

(except one is in Trieste)

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Old 19.03.2020, 18:08
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If people have to work at home, don't they get computers and stuff from work to do so?

For me to work at home partially would require 2-3 computers, lan, internet access, etc.

To work fully, 12m2 of floor space and a truck to deliver it all, and the power to run it.

Alas, my home office has no electricity, nor internet, as I would have to use the rustico.

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You're on here trolling 25/7, what on earth would you need the equivalent of a NASA launch control system transported to your rustico for?
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You're on here trolling 25/7, what on earth would you need the equivalent of a NASA launch control system transported to your rustico for?
Because I need to uses several racks of equipment, that several others need to use.

For most stuff, I can reduce it to 2-3 computers with no hardware, but it's hard to test hardware with no hardware.

The smallest clone I have at work is the clone of the main radio distribution system for Switzerland, which is only one cabinet.

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Because I need to uses several racks of equipment, that several others need to use.

For most stuff, I can reduce it to 2-3 computers with no hardware, but it's hard to test hardware with no hardware.

The smallest clone I have at work is the clone of the main radio distribution system for Switzerland, which is only one cabinet.

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No idea what that all means, but are you the reason why emergency lines were down in January?
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Old 19.03.2020, 18:21
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You work in a private school right?

Because in public schools things aren’t going well at all. The server we were suppose to use to communicate with our students and send them work has been down all week and and is now close until next Monday. I can’t even get my professional emails anymore.

Plus most parents have to work from home, key word being work. Many families share a single computer (if they have one!), and many don’t have a printer. Thus sitting down to do school work is not exactly possible for many parents. And I’m not even speaking of parents who don’t speak the local language.
Yes. For those whose jobs involve working online all day, it may be a little difficult to realise that some families don't actually have a printer, and some not even a pc,or laptop at all. Most have smartphones, of course, but not everyone can use them to their full potential.

And the children may know more than the parents. A single mother I know, whose work does not involve computers (she's a gardener) is now having to persuade/negotiate/threaten her daughter (Sekundarschule) to show her how to log on to anything (which the mother herself never before wanted or needed to know). The daughter doesn't want to and says that that way she'll just have more holiday and can blame it on her mother. So they have a completely different issue to solve before they can breeze on to make use of whatever the teacher may have put online. And they're both Swiss, speaking the local language.

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This self-isolation could go on, perhaps with even stricter conditions (lockdown), for three months or more... which takes us to the end of the school year. Realistically, I don't see kids putting in a concerted effort to study on their own, treating every day at home with all the distractions as a real school day. Not my kids, anyway.

At primary school level, it doesn't really matter all that much if kids miss a quarter of the year. But at higher levels, and of course at gym, it would be very tough to continue with three months' education missing. Unfortunately, I think repeating a year is a very real possibility for many children at the moment. That in itself would create some interesting logistical issues, as this year's crop that does move up a year may be very small, while the year below could be almost double the usual size.

Not a very nice situation, especially for those doing the Matura this year.
Yes, exactly. Although perhaps particularly those who are in gymnasium, heading towards their Matura, are likely to be rather more the self-motivating types of people.
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Old 19.03.2020, 18:32
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Yes. For those whose jobs involve working online all day, it may be a little difficult to realise that some families don't actually have a printer, and some not even a pc,or laptop at all. Most have smartphones, of course, but not everyone can use them to their full potential.

And the children may know more than the parents. A single mother I know, whose work does not involve computers (she's a gardener) is now having to persuade/negotiate/threaten her daughter (Sekundarschule) to show her how to log on to anything (which the mother herself never before wanted or needed to know). The daughter doesn't want to and says that that way she'll just have more holiday and can blame it on her mother. So they have a completely different issue to solve before they can breeze on to make use of whatever the teacher may have put online. And they're both Swiss, speaking the local language.


Yes, exactly. Although perhaps particularly those who are in gymnasium, heading towards their Matura, are likely to be rather more the self-motivating types of people.
Among my students, I estimate about 25% will do their home assignment correctly and with care. They’re already sending me multiple WhatsApp every day with questions.
Another 25% will stay more or less afloat. The rest considered they are on a long term holidays.

Several options have been evoked so far: postponing the summer holidays, postponing the exams to September, canceling the exams.
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Oh, Mélusine, that must be heart-breaking for you! From your posts here, you strike me as a very realistic, sensible person, and it sounds like you're serious about your teaching.

Oh, I hope you can reach them.
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Tragically, this will massively widen the gap between 'rich and poor' - and as always, the most vulnerable and at risk will be the ones falling through the net.
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Re: Coronavirus

My next prediction for panic buying in Switzerland: printer paper and printer consumables (if not printers).

When we move to confinement French & Italian style and you need a written justification based on an online form just to be outside, you're going to be printing A LOT depending on your family and work situation. More than you're used to by probably 50% if not more. Better start ordering off melectronics.ch, microspot.ch, digitec.ch before the rest of the country understands the consequences of confinement.
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Melusine, contact your secretariat, director and deans for the mail address lists. Call them on their cells, if you can, the mailing server has been down.

I have nightmares about our cell/pc/tablets dying. Or internet failure. Dream about taking students for an outside class, next to the lake...in warm breeze.

I can see us without summer break. I think it is a better alternative than anything else. Unless we are closed till the end of Aug. Auch.
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Seems like in the UK schools will be closed until ... September - oh my.
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