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Old 19.03.2020, 19:22
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Melusine, contact your secretariat, director and deans for the mail address lists. Call them on their cells, if you can, the mailing server has been down.

I have nightmares about our cell/pc/tablets dying. Or internet failure. Dream about taking students for an outside class, next to the lake...in warm breeze.

I can see us without summer break. I think it is a better alternative than anything else.
It’s what I’ve been doing since Monday. Last Friday even. I thing I sent several hundreds, possibly around a thousand, messages to students and parents, plus phone calls.
So far I’ve been using padlet.com to share works with my students. And have been criticized by my direction because I wasn’t following the official guideline, ie the server which doesn’t work... ironically, my workload is the only one accessible to our students at the moment...

Thank you for your kind words Doropfiz. I’m a very dedicated teacher, and class working, in a group where I can interact with my students, is what I’m good at. It breaks my heart to be behind a screen and lose my daily direct connection with them. I always tell parents during parents meeting that during a normal week I spend more time with their kids than them. Thus they sort of become MY kids too, and I treat them as I wish my own children are treated at school.
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Old 19.03.2020, 19:43
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You work in a private school right?

Because in public schools things aren’t going well at all. The server we were suppose to use to communicate with our students and send them work has been down all week and and is now close until next Monday. I can’t even get my professional emails anymore.
Many go around it through regular mailing lists and groups, work sent to dropbox (large pdfs) and through download sites (movies), info through whatsapp. I regret not having my external hard-drive It is certain that students are asked to work more now than before, since we teachers (and my kid's teachers) tend to overprepare and send our idea of an ideal content. It will calm down when we figure who can study, who can communicate and how. But by now it getting fine tuned, students settled and adjusted.

We do impose a few rules at home, stick to the quasi same schedule, starting with PE every morning, piano 3x a day to prevent the cabin fever. And nap together when things get really glauque. Hang in there, I can imagine it is really tough with unstable internet, servers being overloaded, us working remotely while teaching our own kids and making sure they aren't too down or anxious. Priority no. 1 for me is helping as much as I can to my kid getting autonomous, so I have the actual time to work remotely, as a single parent. It is working well, her teachers are amazing in how they walk kids remotely through distance learning so they would not have to solicit parents' help. It is not easy. And my kid receives files at 2am. And I send files to students at 2am. But it is just now. I also think parents really realize what is at stake so they do maximum to support. It is still quite a challenge. The positive thing is that parents know a lot about the program now. Friday my kid came home with 20kilos of stuff. Holly molly, the kids' days were rough before and still are. We have to make them happier and less anxious, even if we worry.
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Old 19.03.2020, 19:49
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It’s what I’ve been doing since Monday. Last Friday even. I thing I sent several hundreds, possibly around a thousand, messages to students and parents, plus phone calls.
So far I’ve been using padlet.com to share works with my students. And have been criticized by my direction because I wasn’t following the official guideline, ie the server which doesn’t work... ironically, my workload is the only one accessible to our students at the moment...
Good for you!!! Things are panning out, I am sure your students are very appreciative. Kids love school now, when they cannot go.
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Old 19.03.2020, 20:02
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Meanwhile Boris „vows to turn the tide in 12 weeks“

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Old 19.03.2020, 20:53
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Death toll in Italy now exceeds China and yesterday in US new cases grew by 40%.
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Borris was very vague earlier and didn't answer the majority of questions, knowone knows how this is going to pan out they say 12 weeks and the strain on the NHS ... very uncertain times for everyone across all nations. I keep watching the updates and is frightening how fast the figures are rising.
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Old 19.03.2020, 21:20
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I just noticed / realized that finger pulse oximeter blood oxygen saturation monitors are being sold like crazy all over the internet. Tried to find one and most places seem to be out of stock.

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Old 19.03.2020, 21:21
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......Finally, my summer tires and wheels are sitting in a tire garage in Germany.
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Wow, I turned Radio Swiss Pop on to tune the neighbours out and they regularly tell us to stay home in three languages. The Romantsch will probably file a complaint soon for neglection! They would be darn right too.
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Thanks. So do the new restrictions mean that kids shouldn't be playing outside at all from now on? I know that before they were supposed to keep it to groups of five or less and still maintain a bit of distance, but I guess I'm not sure if there are new restrictions now where kids shouldn't be playing outside in common areas.

My friend told me a bit ago that police around Zürichsee were going around today, yelling at people, telling them to go home.
Because the virus sheds from people who do not know they have it, everybody has to behave as if they were infected. CNN just stated that 4 out of 5 people in China got infected from somebody who was not aware of being Coronavirus positive.

I know it is hard to keep children home, but even 5 people together is in my opinion a risk, if you think that we need to behave as if we all potentially have the virus, that has been circulating undetected here for quite a while.

Check out American museums, they offer virtual visits now, I am sure your child will like it. I will do it tomorrow. And some art class and maybe making home made noodles?
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Coronavirus Symptoms day by day

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Old 19.03.2020, 21:52
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Results are not bundled at regular intervals, also not each kanton is able to gather and push-out daily counts. also there is no steady fixed amount of tests per day.

Numbers are not exact, they are more to be taken as a general impression.
Yes. Thank you. The point is, it is "lots", though we don't and can't know how big "lots" is, and we don't know how long the "lots" is going to last.

On a scientific level, of course there's a lot to be researched. But on a practical, everyday level, your post, Edwin, and yours here, MusicChick,
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we need to behave as if we all potentially have the virus, that has been circulating undetected here for quite a while.
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Yes, but what the Swiss are trying to do is to flatten the curve of infections. I certainly haven’t been able to spread or catch the virus in the last 48 hours and I suspect this is the same of many residents.

We likely will ALL get it at some stage, but the priority is to not overwhelm the health services.

I am (almost) 65 and have two underlying health issues. Both well under control but I do have them.

But in 6 months time we will look at this and say, thank goodness the flattened the curve.
In other words, just do it.
  • Stay at home as much as you can.
  • If you're ill, don't go out at all, unless to a doctor who has confirmed by phone that you may.
  • If you do go out:
    • Try to cut down on the volume of items you carry with you, to minimise contact surfaces.
    • Go alone, or with someone with whom you live anway.
    • Keep 2m distance from everyone.
    • If you end up nearer and cannot move away, if possible turn your face away from the other people near you.
    • Wash your hands when you cross the threshold.
    • Leave shoes, jacket and bag near the door.
    • Sneeze and cough into the crook of your elbow.
    • Clean your phone.
    • Find something that makes you smile, because that's good for your immune system.

As far as the children go, they, too, should be kept safe (and keep others safe) in the same ways. That's all. It just is as it is.

I have difficulty understanding the rationale of people who try to push against, and who even blatantly contravene, the limits of the restrictions. Given that anyone can be infected without yet knowing it, it just isn't fair to go about risking infecting other people.
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Old 19.03.2020, 21:53
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Because the virus sheds from people who do not know they have it, everybody has to behave as if they were infected. CNN just stated that 4 out of 5 people in China got infected from somebody who was not aware of being Coronavirus positive.

I know it is hard to keep children home, but even 5 people together is in my opinion a risk, if you think that we need to behave as if we all potentially have the virus, that has been circulating undetected here for quite a while.

Check out American museums, they offer virtual visits now, I am sure your child will like it. I will do it tomorrow. And some art class and maybe making home made noodles?
I agree that it would be best if everyone kept their kids away from other kids now. Today, my son's best friend came over to play. He lives with a large family (the parents are also our friends), and I felt like it wasn't only his potential 'germs' that were here but also whoever he and his family had come into contact with recently. I try to not be paranoid, but there seems to be a very fine line between being paranoid and being wisely cautious right now.
I also agree that it's best for everyone to act as though they could have the virus and just not know it. I'm bummed that I don't see people wearing masks, as even surgical masks could help prevent spread it, but I assume that's in part because people couldn't buy them. No idea.
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Old 19.03.2020, 22:01
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I agree that it would be best if everyone kept their kids away from other kids now. Today, my son's best friend came over to play. He lives with a large family (the parents are also our friends), and I felt like it wasn't only his potential 'germs' that were here but also whoever he and his family had come into contact with recently. I try to not be paranoid, but there seems to be a very fine line between being paranoid and being wisely cautious right now.
I also agree that it's best for everyone to act as though they could have the virus and just not know it. I'm bummed that I don't see people wearing masks, as even surgical masks could help prevent spread it, but I assume that's in part because people couldn't buy them. No idea.
I don't think it is paranoia, it is knowing how the virus spreads. We have finally had a few days of stricter measures (they could be even stricter) and try to call a medical institution, will you get through? The infection does not tricle in, but pours by large numbers. The longer you keep heatly, your kid and your loved ones, the less of the strain on: even phonecalls to your doc, tests that are needed, pharmacy trips, etc. It is all about timing because it is very probable that we all get it eventually. We just cannot get it all at once, you, your family, the families around, the kid who visted, his family..because if we all get it at once, those who need help will not get it. We need to think ahead. It is not paranoia but prudence and preparedness. "Panic shopping" is just, I think, a way to not leave a house for long, another case of prudence. The toilet pater, well, chicks need a lil more
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WOW. I turned to the press conference of today and was told that there is about 80% less people using public transport and it actually has happened that there was 1 person per wagon between Zurich and Bern!
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Why? When, as you say yourself:
Well, first they were playing outside (badmitton) and then his friend started coming inside to get water, etc. And to be honest, I have a feeling that his mother sent him here simply because she wanted a quiet house.
I'm going to have to be more strict from now on.
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Old 19.03.2020, 22:38
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I don't think it is paranoia, it is knowing how the virus spreads. We have finally had a few days of stricter measures (they could be even stricter) and try to call a medical institution, will you get through? The infection does not tricle in, but pours by large numbers. The longer you keep heatly, your kid and your loved ones, the less of the strain on: even phonecalls to your doc, tests that are needed, pharmacy trips, etc. It is all about timing because it is very probable that we all get it eventually. We just cannot get it all at once, you, your family, the families around, the kid who visted, his family..because if we all get it at once, those who need help will not get it. We need to think ahead. It is not paranoia but prudence and preparedness. "Panic shopping" is just, I think, a way to not leave a house for long, another case of prudence. The toilet pater, well, chicks need a lil more
Yeah, it's not paranoia. I'm not just not use to feeling like this (so worried)... and of course, this situation in general (but who is?).
I had a panic attack earlier today while reading the news. I have to force myself to stay away from the news and updates for a while, sometimes. I feel like my nervous system is being overloaded.
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WOW. I turned to the press conference of today and was told that there is about 80% less people using public transport and it actually has happened that there was 1 person per wagon between Zurich and Bern!
Yep,

My wife had to go the doctor in centre today, so I brought her with the car to avoid public in trams and I told her that she should give me a call to pick her up if needed. turns out lots of space, she was the only one in the tram and bus back home. People living in Zürich know that tram 7 being fully empty is not even happening in wet dreams.
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I do not understand one thing though, every day there are world news from everywhere of somebody in a position of power and responsibility for important decision making, etc...getting infected. I mean, we are now expecting millions of people to change habits and sacrifices, work remotely even if they never did or do not have the gadgets and they comply. Why are important admins, ministers, etc. still coming to the real meetings and not hanging online? If millions can adapt and stay in, why do others need to still risk? I guess the online security might still be iffy, but not more than face to face ways?
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