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After today's press conference I start to think authorities have realized business is much more important for the Swiss government. I start to think we will very soon be "open for business", virus or not around.
I can assure you that will not happen
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Old 20.03.2020, 20:54
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I can assure you that will not happen
I'm assured now
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Old 20.03.2020, 20:59
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Some people won't be happy until anyone caught outside without a really good reason is summarily executed.
Thinking about this longer term, people's mental health will start to suffer when you have large families cooped up in apartments for weeks on end. Even singles or couples will struggle and you might start seeing a type of fatalism creeping in where catching the virus seems like sweet relief.

The early British response was to try and balance benefit:risk by avoiding more draconian measures and that caused global outrage. I also think they went too far, there is a happier medium which will lead to better compliance and keep the curve as flat as possible.

Again, its conceivable 70-80% of the population will catch it so staggering the infections is the best hope we have whilst remaining sane.
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Old 20.03.2020, 21:02
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As usual, it will be the msot vulnerable that will suffer most- and it will open the gap between 'haves' and 'have nots' even more.

Families with space to play and study, computers and resources, books, parents who can support - a garden to run around - will be fine. Others cooped up in small spaces without access to the above will truly suffer- and kids fall further behind, and some will truly be at risk of violence even.
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Old 20.03.2020, 21:03
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Thinking about this longer term, people's mental health will start to suffer when you have large families cooped up in apartments for weeks on end. Even singles or couples will struggle and you might start seeing a type of fatalism creeping in where catching the virus seems like sweet relief.

The early British response was to try and balance benefit:risk by avoiding more draconian measures and that caused global outrage. I also think they went too far, there is a happier medium which will lead to better compliance and keep the curve as flat as possible.

Again, its conceivable 70-80% of the population will catch it so staggering the infections is the best hope we have whilst remaining sane.
Only in China could they enforce that! Can you imagine doing that in the black/hispanic neighbourhoods of USA. I mean,who would do the drug " runs "
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Old 20.03.2020, 21:08
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Yes its in a wierd place now!
Aren't we all.
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Old 20.03.2020, 21:09
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Aren't we all.
No, I'm at home.
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Old 20.03.2020, 21:18
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They say it will cost the USA 1,000,000,000,000 dollars
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Old 20.03.2020, 22:09
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I've only realised that I'll not be able to get a haircut for at least another month. Thinking about dusting off the clippers and giving myself a mohawk for the time being.
More serious, who will cut my toenails
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Old 20.03.2020, 22:13
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It said recently on the government website that exponential growth is expected until next Friday. Then it will be seen whether the measures being taken are having effect. If they are, then the death rate will also see a diminishing growth, but a few days later. I.e. exponential growth is not cause for panic at this time. In two weeks, definitely.

So... 32 billion, raised from 320 million 100CHF fines?

So, when we're out, my wife and I must keep two metres apart? So be it.
Not quite, your wife must keep two metres behind you
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Old 20.03.2020, 22:17
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Not quite, your wife must keep two metres behind you
That would be a progression for some cultures
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Old 20.03.2020, 22:20
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Re: Coronavirus

Criteria in case of overload in intensive care.
Published today by the Académie suisse des sciences médicales (ASSM)
(Translated from the French version)

Patients with Covid-19 and other patients requiring intensive care are treated according to the same criteria.

If, due to a total capacity overload, patients in need of intensive care have to be refused, the short-term prognosis is the decisive factor for triage, underlines the ASSM.

However, age is indirectly taken into account as part of the "short-term prognosis" criterion, since older people more often suffer from comorbidities. Finally, other criteria mentioned in the literature, such as "first come, first served", or priority to people with high social value, should not be applied, according to the ASSM.

When triage decisions are to be made, confidence must be maintained in the most difficult circumstances. This is why it is important that objective rationing criteria and fair processes are applied transparently at all times, concludes the Academy.

Patients with a favourable discharge outcome from intensive care, but unfavourable without intensive care, have top priority. Furthermore, age is not in itself a criterion to be taken into account. Just like sex, place of residence, nationality, religious affiliation, social status, insured status or a possible chronic handicap.
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Old 20.03.2020, 22:24
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Boris closes pubs, restaurants, gyms &&& - better late than never, or not, possibly....
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Old 21.03.2020, 00:32
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Boris closes pubs, restaurants, gyms &&& - better late than never, or not, possibly....
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
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Old 21.03.2020, 00:42
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I mean, I absolutely dont want it to happen to be honest. I'm due to move to St Gallen from the UK on saturday the 28th, to start a new job on the 1st April. The residency permits are in the works so God knows if i'll get them for me and my partner in time.

I will happily quarantine for two weeks once I've arrived, just as long as I get there

hey stezzle - you may want to repost your question here https://www.englishforum.ch/daily-li...id-19-a-7.html


this mega-covid thread has apparently been deemed the OT one...
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Old 21.03.2020, 01:03
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Re: Coronavirus

Meanwhile I'm seeing stories flourishing across Francophone media of people wanting to leave the cities and go off to their country/mountain retreat "for the weekend" (yeah, right). And dire warnings of consequences, such as contaminating countryside villages that will not be able to cope with an overload of virus patients.

I hope this doesn't include any of you and you're all staying home this weekend and for duration of this! It takes just one person to be a superspreader!

How many of you cooped up at home (or not, walkers), have worked out yet you can exercise at home in a more cramped fashion but still do it? Youtube videos abound on this.
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Old 21.03.2020, 07:15
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Here are the new official rules: https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home...novel-cov.html

The Federal Council has also further tightened its measures. It is banning gatherings of more than five people in public spaces. If five or fewer people meet, they must maintain a distance of 2 metres from one another. Anyone not complying with this rule will be fined. The other measures already in place remain in force.

Public spaces Public spaces are public places, footpaths or parks.


For this next bit, there is no mention of a fine if you go for a walk for exercise for yourself or your hound.
Only leave the home if absolutely necessary. That means:

If you have to purchase groceries.
If you have to go to the doctor’s or the pharmacy.
If you have to help someone.
If you are unable to work from home and you have to go to work.
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Old 21.03.2020, 07:18
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Not quite, your wife must keep two metres behind you
Its much safer to have her up-front
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Old 21.03.2020, 07:33
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Boris closes pubs, restaurants, gyms &&& - better late than never, or not, possibly....
So he reconsidered. I mean, damn' those experts from WHO, they are just some idiots who enjoy talking so they can hear themselves... Their recommendations were right from the start - test, test, quarantine, social distance.
There are even graphics, animation available to show how the virus is spreading and why do we have to follow the rules.
I think some countries understood what's going on, some not. There's no "Europe reacted blah blah", no, we're all different. Some more disciplined, even though much poorer, some entitled and unwilling to change anything under no circumstances.
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Old 21.03.2020, 07:37
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Singapore has its first ever two deaths...it's a heavy day here as we were all holding out for no deaths for so long...but guess it had to happen. Still I applaud the SG govt/ hospitals for a good job they have been doing for so long. sorry it's not that CH related. it's just a big news for us here


https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...esian-12563036
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