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. And I wonder if the French and the Italian woman are all bulimic.
Just felt compelled to mention given that Bulimia is a serious and complex psychological disorder, so I doubt it. As a group, eating disorders have pretty high mortality....probably higher than the virus. Not to be considered a fashion accessory.
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Old 22.03.2020, 13:47
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gosh, i thought it would have been all much easier... after one week I am so done, and cannot imagine any anymore
still recovering from a heartbreak (5 month ago break up), sitting alone and mostly drinking... jeeeez. NOT GOOD
hope it is all finished soon, god I need some people around!
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I am sorry you feel down...and it is probably not a moment to say that breakups are a blessing of sorts, but how about creating a thread and posting how you are coping. Maybe cutting down on booze, for every glass you down you make a post and chase it with a glass of water? Homestretch is, to be entirely honest, really hard for many people. Everylne I know. Myself included. I figured it is time for new, healthy habits. Even if you feel like you got no energy
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Old 22.03.2020, 14:11
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Grandson is quite ill in the UK. Very high temp and terrible dry cough, vomitting too. He goes to a large International Private school, and they were all away all over the world for half term- my own grandkids here and skiing on French side.
Distance has never felt so big ...Before this, it was just a case of jumping on a plane, train or the car. Always had as a plan that if things got crazy in London region- we would just have them here to stay and home educate for a while - now, that is all out of the window.

He is responding well to paracetamol and cooling- and on 3rd day is beginning to feel a bit better- pheeeew <3. His sister and parents are fine, but have had to drop out of local volunteer network and no more walking on the Heath down the road either. On full lockdown.

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Old 22.03.2020, 14:18
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Re: Coronavirus

Sorry to hear that Odile and hope he's on the mend soon.

A tip if needed - and if you can get it - to bring down a very high temperature pack ice around a person. I had this done to me when I was a kid with a very high fever; dad had to go out to the local ice making machine and bring back a few bags to put around me.
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Old 22.03.2020, 14:19
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Re: Coronavirus

For the healthcare workers out there who are exposed to corona and considering the shortage of N95-N99 masks, what are you doing personally?

CDC guidelines stipulate N95, at a minimum, but due to the nature of the virus & transmission N99 is more ideal. HPCI here in Switzerland are recommending N95 in the event of invasive procedures only (i.e. bronchoscopy, intubation), else Type II or IIR - I think this is woefully inadequate but I suspect this is linked to limited supply. However, it almost ensures healthcare workers becoming infected and ultimately spreading it further to families
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Old 22.03.2020, 14:22
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For the healthcare workers out there who are exposed to corona and considering the shortage of N95-N99 masks, what are you doing personally?

CDC guidelines stipulate N95, at a minimum, but due to the nature of the virus & transmission N99 is more ideal. HPCI here in Switzerland are recommending N95 in the event of invasive procedures only (i.e. bronchoscopy, intubation), else Type II or IIR - I think this is woefully inadequate but I suspect this is linked to limited supply. However, it almost ensures healthcare workers becoming infected and ultimately spreading it further to families
And teachers who take care of the children of medical staff at the moment. They need masks too. Postmen, cashiers, police.
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Old 22.03.2020, 14:23
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Grandson is quite ill in the UK. Very high temp and terrible dry cough, vomitting too. He goes to a large International Private school, and they were all away all over the world for half term- my own grandkids here and skiing on French side.
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Glad he is on the road to recovery.

Out of interest, and with the symptoms you describe, how old is he?
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Sorry to hear that Odile and hope he's on the mend soon.

A tip if needed - and if you can get it - to bring down a very high temperature pack ice around a person. I had this done to me when I was a kid with a very high fever; dad had to go out to the local ice making machine and bring back a few bags to put around me.
Yes, this is what they have been doing and combined with paracetamol, it has really helped. They are so lucky to have tons of space and a garden, so self isolation will not be toooo painful. And hopefully he will be fine in a few days- let's hope the rest of the family does not come down with it. But distance has never felt so ... distant for this Granny and Granpa. No idea when we will see them again, apart from Skype- trip to UK next week cancelled of course.

He is 13, his sister 11 (no sign with her though- they go to different schools too.) And today is Mothering Sunday in UK- so if you still have mums and grans in the UK- don't forget to phone them

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Old 22.03.2020, 14:29
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Just read on my son's bank website that CH is upping the testing (sorry can't link to it). Apparently we can now do 7000 a day, which is 5,800 per million. As a comparison Sth Korea can do 6,150 per million and Italy 3,450 per million. This would now put us in one of the highest categories in the world apparently.
Good! about time. Switzerland is becoming more and more of a leading example.
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Old 22.03.2020, 14:37
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Re: Coronavirus

A couple of questions that perhaps someone maybe able to answer.

1) How long is this going to last? I was thinking, say we deal with the situation in Switzerland and the number of cases drop, how long before things return to normal? We saw how the virus spread across Europe from Italy and Austria, things could be under control only for it to flare up again once people start moving from a more infected zone to a lesser one. Are borders going to be closed for months?

2) What is the effect going to be on the developing world? We've seen how devastating this has been on modern healthcare systems, what's going to happen when the virus hits Africa or rural India? Or will the warmer climates have an effect to stifle the spread?
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Old 22.03.2020, 14:44
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A couple of questions that perhaps someone maybe able to answer.

1) How long is this going to last? I was thinking, say we deal with the situation in Switzerland and the number of cases drop, how long before things return to normal? We saw how the virus spread across Europe from Italy and Austria, things could be under control only for it to flare up again once people start moving from a more infected zone to a lesser one. Are borders going to be closed for months?

2) What is the effect going to be on the developing world? We've seen how devastating this has been on modern healthcare systems, what's going to happen when the virus hits Africa or rural India? Or will the warmer climates have an effect to stifle the spread?
Nobody knows, simple as that. Only speculations.
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Old 22.03.2020, 14:44
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A couple of questions that perhaps someone maybe able to answer.

1) How long is this going to last? I was thinking, say we deal with the situation in Switzerland and the number of cases drop, how long before things return to normal? We saw how the virus spread across Europe from Italy and Austria, things could be under control only for it to flare up again once people start moving from a more infected zone to a lesser one. Are borders going to be closed for months?

2) What is the effect going to be on the developing world? We've seen how devastating this has been on modern healthcare systems, what's going to happen when the virus hits Africa or rural India? Or will the warmer climates have an effect to stifle the spread?
I've been keeping an eye on what's happening in China. Their actions may set a precedent to further decisions made globally.
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Old 22.03.2020, 14:48
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A couple of questions that perhaps someone maybe able to answer.

1) How long is this going to last? I was thinking, say we deal with the situation in Switzerland and the number of cases drop, how long before things return to normal? We saw how the virus spread across Europe from Italy and Austria, things could be under control only for it to flare up again once people start moving from a more infected zone to a lesser one. Are borders going to be closed for months?
Who knows but its certainly gone on longer than 28 Days Later already.
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Re grandson, of course, no testing- so we will never know if it is Covid19- or not.

It has been amazing to see how our local community has really taken this whole thing to heart- and how quickly volunteer groups have sprung up- be it to collect bins, to do shopping, take people to doctor's, etc, etc, etc - and now several B&Bs and Hôtels have come forward to offer free rooms for Hospital and EMS (Care Homes) staff who can't return home to France as they are too worried about infecting their family. Really moving and reassuring.
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Old 22.03.2020, 14:56
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1) How long is this going to last? I was thinking, say we deal with the situation in Switzerland and the number of cases drop, how long before things return to normal?

2) ... what's going to happen when the virus hits Africa or rural India? Or will the warmer climates have an effect to stifle the spread?
I'm not a scientist, just to get that out of the way.

1) We were talking with Swiss neighbours, one of whom is a medical professional, and the consensus between them apears to be mid-late June or July based upon a better case scenario. Personally, I honestly don't know.

2) We're about to see that now as the southern hemisphere goes into winter and cooler weather. A friend in India told my OH earlier this week that it's being taken very seriously despite them having relatively few cases (360 atm). Schools and colleges have been closed and there are more details here https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-51942147 They're very aware that the country couldn't handle a pandemic hotspot. It 'appears' to be that the closer you are to the equator, then less the virus transmits. We shall see.
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Old 22.03.2020, 15:38
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Re: Coronavirus

Here is a survey by RTS, or at least they're promoting it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.rts...d-opinion.html

At the bottom of this page, in French, is the link to the survey, in French, Italian and German.

Among other things it asks your prédiction of when the restraints will be lifted, how it impacts your life and wellbeing, how it impacts job and economy, how well government has reacted, etc.
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Old 22.03.2020, 15:42
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It has been amazing to see how our local community has really taken this whole thing to heart- and how quickly volunteer groups have sprung up- be it to collect bins, to do shopping, take people to doctor's, etc, etc, etc - and now several B&Bs and Hôtels have come forward to offer free rooms for Hospital and EMS (Care Homes) staff who can't return home to France as they are too worried about infecting their family. Really moving and reassuring.
Don’t follow this thread, so apologies if I’m posting something that has already been duplicated. Here on TA and NZZ, just released:

Schweiz hat eine der höchsten Testraten

In der Schweiz können bis zu 7000 Personen täglich auf eine Infektion durch Covid-19 getestet werden. Das schreibt die «NZZ am Sonntag» gestützt auf Informationen des Bundesamtes für Gesundheit (BAG). Die Schweiz weist eine der höchsten Testraten weltweit auf: Am meisten Personen hat Südkorea mit 6150 Tests pro 1 Million Einwohner geprüft. Die Schweiz hat 5800 Proben pro Million Einwohner getestet, in Italien sind es 3450

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In Switzerland, up to 7,000 people can be tested daily for Covid-19 infection. The “NZZ am Sonntag” writes this based on information from the Federal Office of Public Health (BAG). Switzerland has one of the highest test rates in the world: The most people tested South Korea with 6150 tests per 1 million inhabitants. Switzerland tested 5800 samples per million inhabitants, compared to 3450 in Italy
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Sorry to hear that Odile and hope he's on the mend soon.

A tip if needed - and if you can get it - to bring down a very high temperature pack ice around a person. I had this done to me when I was a kid with a very high fever; dad had to go out to the local ice making machine and bring back a few bags to put around me.
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A couple of questions that perhaps someone maybe able to answer.

1) How long is this going to last? I was thinking, say we deal with the situation in Switzerland and the number of cases drop, how long before things return to normal? We saw how the virus spread across Europe from Italy and Austria, things could be under control only for it to flare up again once people start moving from a more infected zone to a lesser one. Are borders going to be closed for months?

2) What is the effect going to be on the developing world? We've seen how devastating this has been on modern healthcare systems, what's going to happen when the virus hits Africa or rural India? Or will the warmer climates have an effect to stifle the spread?
It is beginning to level off and then every day after will see a reduction. Should not be long
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Old 22.03.2020, 16:11
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Re: Coronavirus

Must say I find it pretty difficult to decide how much of a crisis we have in CH at the moment..

Big restrictions on everything, shops, working, travel, schools etc.. But reported numbers are still very low, I've still only heard personally about 3 cases, 3 people who sat beside each other at work who are recovering fine. Nothing amongst friends or friends or friends, neighbours, anecdotes etc.

Is it really under control? am I just missing it? is the big wave coming or have we really really flattened the curve?
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