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Old 27.03.2020, 08:21
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Re: Bleiben Sie jetzt zuhause

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Is this 'Bleiben Sie jetzt zuhause' a recommendation or an obligation? It is not clear to me the enforcement action of it.

May police stop you on the street and fine you if you are simply having a stroll?
It's a recommendation.
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Old 27.03.2020, 08:26
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Re: Bleiben Sie jetzt zuhause

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Hi all,

Is this 'Bleiben Sie jetzt zuhause' a recommendation or an obligation? It is not clear to me the enforcement action of it.

May police stop you on the street and fine you if you are simply having a stroll?
No, but a few of the EF forum members would shame you for doing it, so by all means stay sane and have a stroll, but don't mention it here
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Old 27.03.2020, 08:28
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No, but a few of the EF forum members would shame you for doing it, so by all means stay sane and have a stroll, but don't mention it here
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Old 27.03.2020, 08:35
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Re: Bleiben Sie jetzt zuhause

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Hi all,

Is this 'Bleiben Sie jetzt zuhause' a recommendation or an obligation? It is not clear to me the enforcement action of it.

May police stop you on the street and fine you if you are simply having a stroll?
We have a family stroll most days.. But we live in a small village quite high up, we don't see other people walking through the fields and forest..

Common sense .. We're still not under mandatory confinement but mixing with other people would be silly..
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Old 27.03.2020, 08:38
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Re: Coronavirus

Don't know if this has been posted already, it's not peer reviewed yet; but could explain why this is being spread by unwittingly infectious asymptomatic people. Blood group O is the most common.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....11.20031096v1
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Old 27.03.2020, 08:39
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Re: Bleiben Sie jetzt zuhause

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Hi all,

Is this 'Bleiben Sie jetzt zuhause' a recommendation or an obligation? It is not clear to me the enforcement action of it.

May police stop you on the street and fine you if you are simply having a stroll?
If they think you are loitering with intent then yes they will stop you
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Old 27.03.2020, 08:45
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Re: Coronavirus

So reading the news this morning:
- Switzerland has the highest number of cases per million inhabitants more than Italy and Spain (https://www.politico.eu/coronavirus-in-europe/)
- Switzerland ICU is going to collapse next week: https://www.rts.ch/info/11199610-le-...-1585290010417

IDK what they are waiting for to impose a stricter quarantine. Here in Geneva we have one of the worst situations and still too many people on the streets (from what I see from my window as I'm only going to the Coop once a week).
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So reading the news this morning:
- Switzerland has the highest number of cases per million inhabitants more than Italy and Spain (https://www.politico.eu/coronavirus-in-europe/)
- Switzerland ICU is going to collapse next week: https://www.rts.ch/info/11199610-le-...-1585290010417

IDK what they are waiting for to impose a stricter quarantine. Here in Geneva we have one of the worst situations and still too many people on the streets (from what I see from my window as I'm only going to the Coop once a week).
In Zürich its a ghost town . Only the "workers " are out and about. Otherwise the people really observe the quarantine very well
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Old 27.03.2020, 08:59
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Re: Coronavirus

Same in Basel. Give or take a bit.
A lock down China style isn't going to make a difference.
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Old 27.03.2020, 09:17
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Same in Basel. Give or take a bit.
A lock down China style isn't going to make a difference.
Same in Neuchâtel, everyone is adhering to the recommendations and staying home unless it’s absolutely necessary to be out.
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Old 27.03.2020, 09:28
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Here in Geneva we have one of the worst situations and still too many people on the streets (from what I see from my window as I'm only going to the Coop once a week).
Seems like covid is impacting Latin speaking parts of the world stronger than Anglo-Saxon/Germanic ones
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Old 27.03.2020, 09:38
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Seems like covid is impacting Latin speaking parts of the world stronger than Anglo-Saxon/Germanic ones
Sociologists must be having a field day, my guess is its to do with differing attitudes to the rules.
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Old 27.03.2020, 09:49
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Seems like covid is impacting Latin speaking parts of the world stronger than Anglo-Saxon/Germanic ones
According to this gentleman, this is actually the case within Switzerland!

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A strange pattern has emerged in COVID-19 CFRs in Switzerland.
COVID-19 has been twice as likely to kill patients in French-speaking cantons of Switzerland than in German-speaking, and more than twice as likely to kill patients in Italian speaking cantons than in French ones.
https://twitter.com/TrevorSutcliffe/...98835036979200
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Old 27.03.2020, 09:50
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Re: Coronavirus

I've noticed a lot of inconsistency among the larger supermarkets (basically COOP and Migros) as to what are deemed essential items. So in Migros some electricals (plugs, fuses, sockets), toys, stationary are sealed away but you can buy tupperware, saucepans, cosmetics etc.. A few doors down in COOP land the kitchenware is off limits but you can buy garden toys (not general toys), some electrical items and stationary is fine.

Yes I do lead an exciting life
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Old 27.03.2020, 10:15
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I've noticed a lot of inconsistency among the larger supermarkets (basically COOP and Migros) as to what are deemed essential items. So in Migros some electricals (plugs, fuses, sockets), toys, stationary are sealed away but you can buy tupperware, saucepans, cosmetics etc.. A few doors down in COOP land the kitchenware is off limits but you can buy garden toys (not general toys), some electrical items and stationary is fine.

Yes I do lead an exciting life
I went to Coop last monday and no limitations on anything. Instead the nearby Migros closed the clothes section.

I have a 4 months old baby, we have some clothes for 6-9 months but we lack something. Ordering online now is impossible and if we can't buy in store we don't know how to manage.

Luckly I was able to stockpile enough diapers size 3 and 4 before the crisis. At least we won't drown in shit
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Old 27.03.2020, 10:17
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I've noticed a lot of inconsistency among the larger supermarkets (basically COOP and Migros) as to what are deemed essential items. So in Migros some electricals (plugs, fuses, sockets), toys, stationary are sealed away but you can buy tupperware, saucepans, cosmetics etc.. A few doors down in COOP land the kitchenware is off limits but you can buy garden toys (not general toys), some electrical items and stationary is fine.

Yes I do lead an exciting life
here at Migros, it's interesting too, Tupperware is OK, cosmetics I guess is OK as it's mixed with first aid and to move the 2 sections may be too time-consuming? half of the easter stuff is tapped off, the other half not. Seems almost no reasoning behind it and people are always getting so close too when I go, annoying!
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Old 27.03.2020, 10:20
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I've noticed a lot of inconsistency among the larger supermarkets (basically COOP and Migros) as to what are deemed essential items. So in Migros some electricals (plugs, fuses, sockets), toys, stationary are sealed away but you can buy tupperware, saucepans, cosmetics etc.. A few doors down in COOP land the kitchenware is off limits but you can buy garden toys (not general toys), some electrical items and stationary is fine.

Yes I do lead an exciting life
Our Nespresso machine broke on Tuesday.. I went to my local COOP and that area was all taped off..

The guy nearby stocking the shelves agreed that it was a necessity so I should go ahead and help myself behind the taped off area.. Same for printer paper and a stapler.

I think these are guidelines .. not to be abused, common sense..
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Old 27.03.2020, 10:22
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Re: Coronavirus

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In Zürich its a ghost town . Only the "workers " are out and about. Otherwise the people really observe the quarantine very well
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Same in Basel. Give or take a bit.
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Same in Neuchâtel, everyone is adhering to the recommendations and staying home unless it’s absolutely necessary to be out.
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Sociologists must be having a field day, my guess is its to do with differing attitudes to the rules.
I live in one of the Grandes Communes and since last week the number of people around has greatly decreased. Kids no longer play in the courtyard (except this poor dad with 3 boys who lives in a two-bedroom apartment that has all my compassion). However there are still some cars going around (and I live in a dormitory-city, not many businesses to justify this traffic) and still people walking around. I might have a biased view as if you need to go to Migros or Coop you have to pass near my building so maybe that's why I see more "movement".

Sometimes I would like to scream from my balcony "Rentrez chez vous!" like an old crazy person
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Old 27.03.2020, 10:32
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Re: Coronavirus

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Oh the mask does not protect fully, no doubt. But it protects some and it avoids that your sneeze launches an 8 meters long beam of droplets through a full tram.
And you sit there with green snot leaking down your face...

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Don't know if this has been posted already, it's not peer reviewed yet; but could explain why this is being spread by unwittingly infectious asymptomatic people. Blood group O is the most common.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....11.20031096v1
Group A more susceptible than group O. Oh poo.

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Our Nespresso machine broke on Tuesday.. I went to my local COOP and that area was all taped off..

The guy nearby stocking the shelves agreed that it was a necessity so I should go ahead and help myself behind the taped off area.. Same for printer paper and a stapler.

I think these are guidelines .. not to be abused, common sense..
You would probably get all those things cheaper online.
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Old 27.03.2020, 10:36
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Re: Coronavirus

Seems strange to me, according to Wikipedia, that from one Italian returning back home from China all of Italy and neighboring countries got infected in a matter of weeks. Could it not be that the virus was lingering around months before hand in a dormant state?
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