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Old 23.02.2020, 17:46
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This being Switzerland, I imagine they have contingency plans in place since the MERS and SARS outbreaks, but the authorities are taking a watch and see approach for now. If it's in Milan, odds are it's already here but there haven't been any positive tests yet.
theres not one mask to buy anywhere! But I am sure my Arafat shawl should do the trick
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Old 23.02.2020, 18:00
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Re: Coronavirus

Under control in Italy, no border closures: https://www.rsi.ch/news/ticino-e-gri...3idmqyfAM3M1Jw

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Old 23.02.2020, 18:05
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Not just summer.

Have you been in Luzern lately? Almost feels deserted if you're used to all those groups from China whole year through.
I was in Luzern on Thursday afternoon and it didn't look deserted at all. Quite the opposite.
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Old 23.02.2020, 18:06
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I was in Luzern on Thursday afternoon and it didn't look deserted at all. Quite the opposite.
They are encouraging people to go on the streets to stop any tendency to panik
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Old 23.02.2020, 18:10
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More noise....the ultra-scary SARS killed about 700 people and roughly 9% of the infected died. This coronovirus outbreak seems to be even more mild. Just to put things in perspective, tomorrow more people will die from tripping on the street than from any coronovirus.
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Old 23.02.2020, 18:50
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Re: Coronavirus

At this point efforts to contain coronavirus are probably futile. Just identify and support those infected, try to instill good hygiene habits and minimize spread.
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Old 23.02.2020, 19:24
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Under control in Italy, no border closures: https://www.rsi.ch/news/ticino-e-gri...3idmqyfAM3M1Jw

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I’m sorry but I don’t speak Italian, are you able to give a brief summary of what they are saying?

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I understand why people shrugged this off following SARS, Swine Flu and Avian Flu, however I think the reaction from the Chinese told us more than the numbers and media reports. I still believe the bigger impact will be economic rather than human (I say that not in an unempathetic way!).
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Old 23.02.2020, 19:42
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Under control in Italy, no border closures: https://www.rsi.ch/news/ticino-e-gri...3idmqyfAM3M1Jw

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That is from yesterday, the numbers and spread have gone up and opinions will/might chance if the situation gets worse.
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Old 23.02.2020, 19:45
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Re: Coronavirus

Some people really lost the big picture completely.

Yes, Corona is a bad "flu-like" virus, that should be contained. But some people compare it to stuff like Spanish flu must be out of their minds.

In fact, "thanks" to Corona, China will see the lowest amount of people getting killed in traffic accidents, "saving" more people than actually people having a premature death due to Corona.

https://de.statista.com/statistik/da...elle-in-china/

Assuming 200k per year, and just one month with much reduced rate (let's assume only half as many accidents, albeit probably it's less than 10%) that means for February we'd have 8k instead of 16k - while Corona has killed off approx 25% of that.

6k people "survived" (Yes, statistically..) thanks to Corona..

Hate me for being a statistic nerd, I know the single individual person having lost loved ones will obviously not agree, and no one directly got "saved" from a traffic accident. Just wanting to point out some numbers..
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Old 23.02.2020, 19:49
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Some people really lost the big picture completely.

Yes, Corona is a bad "flu-like" virus, that should be contained. But some people compare it to stuff like Spanish flu must be out of their minds.

In fact, "thanks" to Corona, China will see the lowest amount of people getting killed in traffic accidents, "saving" more people than actually people having a premature death due to Corona.

https://de.statista.com/statistik/da...elle-in-china/

Assuming 200k per year, and just one month with much reduced rate (let's assume only half as many accidents, albeit probably it's less than 10%) that means for February we'd have 8k instead of 16k - while Corona has killed off approx 25% of that.

6k people "survived" (Yes, statistically..) thanks to Corona..

Hate me for being a statistic nerd, I know the single individual person having lost loved ones will obviously not agree, and no one directly got "saved" from a traffic accident. Just wanting to point out some numbers..
If only we'd know how many people died due to this in China...
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Old 23.02.2020, 20:01
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Really hit close to home today ..

I went to order something from wish .com and the estimated arrival date is 12th May ..
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Old 23.02.2020, 20:02
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Some people really lost the big picture completely.

Yes, Corona is a bad "flu-like" virus, that should be contained. But some people compare it to stuff like Spanish flu must be out of their minds.

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Disagree. And you are basing your statistics on what is happening now in current locations.

COVID-19 causes about more deaths than normal flu - four deaths per 1000 rather than one per thousand - but that (and here's the crunch) is countries with advanced, or very advanced medical care.

If it spreads to Africa, there is going to be a much higher percentage of deaths.

Other more developed areas will also have problems as compared with the 'normal' flu, more vulnerable people have not been vaccinated against this corona virus.

With regards to Spanish flu, there is now the belief that a lot of the deaths were actually aided by many sufferers having malnutrition and other health deficiencies due to WWI.
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Old 23.02.2020, 20:19
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According to a friend in the know there is now a confirmed case in Ticino.

I hope Tom is well stocked with hand sanitiser and face masks.
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Old 23.02.2020, 21:03
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Yes, Corona is a bad "flu-like" virus
No. It's not flu-like
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Old 23.02.2020, 22:14
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Re: Coronavirus

'Coronavirus: Austria refuses entry to train from Venice as Italy struggles to contain virus outbreak

Austria has suspended all trains to and from Italy as the Italian authorities race to contain the biggest outbreak of coronavirus in Europe.'
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...break-11941438
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'Coronavirus: Austria refuses entry to train from Venice as Italy struggles to contain virus outbreak

Austria has suspended all trains to and from Italy as the Italian authorities race to contain the biggest outbreak of coronavirus in Europe.'
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...break-11941438
An interesting element to me is how OBB was notified by Italy train operators that there were two passengers on the train with fever symptoms.

Did they break quarantine? Did another passenger report them? We’re they being monitored? Are there thermo scanners in place?

If anyone comes across such details, please add to the thread.
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Old 23.02.2020, 22:32
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theres not one mask to buy anywhere! But I am sure my Arafat shawl should do the trick
I just did a search online and yeah, I can't find anywhere in Switzerland that is selling N95 masks. There are some on ebay sold from the UK, but they're quite pricey and seem to be selling out very quickly.
Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but seeing today that so many cases are now in northern Italy, I confess... I'm feeling a bit freaked out. Not only due to the virus itself but also the thought of a lock down happening here as it is in some towns in Italy now. Has anyone here bought masks yet?
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I just did a search online and yeah, I can't find anywhere in Switzerland that is selling N95 masks. There are some on ebay sold from the UK, but they're quite pricey and seem to be selling out very quickly.
Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but seeing today that so many cases are now in northern Italy, I confess... I'm feeling a bit freaked out. Not only due to the virus itself but also the thought of a lock down happening here as it is in some towns in Italy now. Has anyone here bought masks yet?
I was trying to buy mouth masks in the end of January in Madrid, it was sold out everywhere. So I asked my friends in Germany, Iceland and Sweden. All sold out. This is almost one month ago. But the bright side is mouth mask is not something pharmacies have big stocks on, so it's normal they sold out. I heard that the new produced mouth masks are being controlled by governments here in Europe so they can provide for citizens when needed.
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Old 24.02.2020, 00:40
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i didn't know where else to to put this...a bit long winded but...


Do farts spread novel coronavirus? A Beijing district CDC answers


https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1180514.shtml
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Old 24.02.2020, 00:48
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I just did a search online and yeah, I can't find anywhere in Switzerland that is selling N95 masks. There are some on ebay sold from the UK, but they're quite pricey and seem to be selling out very quickly.
Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but seeing today that so many cases are now in northern Italy, I confess... I'm feeling a bit freaked out. Not only due to the virus itself but also the thought of a lock down happening here as it is in some towns in Italy now. Has anyone here bought masks yet?
Just grab FFP2 or FFP3, preferably without an exhalation valve if you come across those. but tbh I would not be surprised if all of those are sold out during tomorrow.
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