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Old 04.04.2020, 11:16
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I worry about the incidence of anxiety and depression, and people not accessing the care they need for chronic conditions.
That's the bizarre thing about all these measures: in order to protect 1 or 2 percent of the world population, you might send 50% into poverty and make sure all other that need help don't need the support and care they need.
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Referee! No personal attacks!
While I agree 100% with what you changed in my post, you really shouldn't misquote me.
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Old 04.04.2020, 11:21
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That's the bizarre thing about all these measures: in order to protect 1 or 2 percent of the world population, you might send 50% into poverty and make sure all other that need help don't need the support and care they need.
Pretty sad when half the world pleads poverty after not being in business for only a month.
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Old 04.04.2020, 11:26
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Pretty sad when half the world pleads poverty after not being in business for only a month.
That is actually something which really surprised me, how so many companies were/are operating at a pecuniary limit.
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Old 04.04.2020, 11:29
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That is actually something which really surprised me, how so many companies were/are operating at a pecuniary limit.
For many of them, if they get a sniff of free government money they're going to claim it anyway.
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Old 04.04.2020, 11:41
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That's the bizarre thing about all these measures: in order to protect 1 or 2 percent of the world population, you might send 50% into poverty and make sure all other that need help don't need the support and care they need.
Where did you get 1 or 2 percent btw? Official numbers show a "slightly" different reality.

I think you got it wrong either way: while hospitals and doctors are busy treating corona patients, the rest of patients are clearly neglected. That was the biggest lie in all this affair - that these measures are taken to protect only some small groups of "vulnerable" people. Perhaps doctors fighting with this disease could portray you a different story, but I am not sure you are willing to accept the sad truth.
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Old 04.04.2020, 11:44
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While I agree 100% with what you changed in my post, you really shouldn't misquote me.

Ooh, how dishonest of you!
I did a straight copy and paste.

You are a liar, and you know you are.
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Old 04.04.2020, 11:46
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OK, can we stop the personal attacks please? As you said: go outside and enjoy the sun.
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Old 04.04.2020, 11:55
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Basel-Stadt update.

As of Saturday, April 4, 2020, 10:15 a.m., there are a total of 771 positive cases of people residing in the canton of Basel-Stadt. This is23 more than the previous day, with ten cases being attributable to late registrations. The effective increase since yesterday is 13 cases. 434 of the 771 people who tested positive and thus more than half recovered.
There are three other deaths from a Covid 19 infection in the canton of Basel-Stadt. The deceased man (85) and the two deceased women (85 and 83 years old) are again people from the risk group (older than 65 and existing pre-existing condition). The number of deaths in the canton of Basel-Stadt is now 24 in total.
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Old 04.04.2020, 11:55
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Ooh, how dishonest of you!
I did a straight copy and paste.

You are a liar, and you know you are.
In the grand scheme of things....that's just...nothing. Now go and enjoy the sun!

(we're obviously spending too much time on EF to observe the human comedy)
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Old 04.04.2020, 11:56
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OK, can we stop the personal attacks please? As you said: go outside and enjoy the sun.
Opinions are one thing, but blatant lying is dispicable.
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Old 04.04.2020, 12:05
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It appears that Liechtenstein has handled the situation even better than Switzerland but I'm sure they aren't so smug about it. Thankfully most of the Swiss that I associate with aren't stereotypical asshats like some are.
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Old 04.04.2020, 12:22
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Ooh, how dishonest of you!
I did a straight copy and paste.

You are a liar, and you know you are.
Please don't besmirch my impeccable reputation.
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Old 04.04.2020, 12:27
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Re: Coronavirus

Spain bought 150 Respirators in China, and while they where in Ankara for an overlay the Turkish government seized them. Diplomacy has up to now not led to results to get the respirators to Spain.

Spanish Source: https://elpais.com/sociedad/2020-04-...ra-espana.html

(Maybe Spain as a thank you can send some weapon shipments to the Kurds, it is the kind of negotiating the Turkish understand)
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Old 04.04.2020, 12:28
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That is actually something which really surprised me, how so many companies were/are operating at a pecuniary limit.
The corona virus is of course also the perfect excuse for any bad run business or project.
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Old 04.04.2020, 12:55
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Please don't besmirch my impeccable reputation.
Was impeccable, in your mind anyway, but then you ruined it by changing your post, then lying about it.
So, you're still a liar.
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...I don't get it. Is it that difficult to comply with some rules that would help us all get through this crisis? It's becoming more and more clear that people are irremediably stupid and selfish. Not only here...just to be clear on that. It's painful to watch this show.
human stupidity is infinite (c)
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Old 04.04.2020, 13:09
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For many of them, if they get a sniff of free government money they're going to claim it anyway.
This situation is really showing the true fabric of some people and businesses. Some are seeing the stress testing of their business model really put through it's paces in unprecedented economic conditions. Quick thinkers and entrepreneurs are rising to the challenge and spotting gaps in production, support and logistics. Whilst all of this is an unwelcome learning curve for many, it's still a valuable one.

Aside... 2 weeks before the UK government began talking about mortgage and rent holidays, I emailed the tenants of our UK house to offer a 3 month non-repayable rent holiday to them. Their response was... "Thank you very much for the offer and it is appreciated. At the moment, we don't require a rent holiday but will let you know if our situation changes." I'm impressed and the offer remains firmly on the table.
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Old 04.04.2020, 13:36
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Re: Coronavirus

It doesn’t really look like that the pandemic curve is flattening out. Statistically speaking, up to date we have almost 1 in 430 people being infected. Scary to even go outside or shopping in one’s neck of woods

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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Old 04.04.2020, 13:40
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- you don't know whether anyone has already been immunised, therefore making their risk to infect anyone else roughly zero
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Given that there is currently no vaccine available and the likelihood of all of those people having been infected by the virus and built up immunity to it is close to zero I think we can discount this as an option.
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