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Typically yes, but the rules do not state it has to be like that.
As it's been precedent since 1923 I reckon it's a safe bet.
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Old 06.04.2020, 22:33
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Typically yes, but the rules do not state it has to be like that.
You are both right. Technically being party leader and PM are different roles and can be filled by different people (as is similar to the the case in Germany at present), and the process for filing them is technically distinct.

In reality the tories pick the party leader who then becomes the PM. If it were still a minority government, the tories would still pick the leader who would become PM (but would potentially be vulnerable to a vote of no confidence) as the Queen will keep the status quo option.
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I can barely maintain my weight, doing home office all day.
And I'm almost constantly hungry...

Can't imagine how it is for overweight people with a lot of stress.
Are you drinking a lot of sugared drinks/juice by chance? They tend to inhibit the ability to get sated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
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Old 06.04.2020, 22:38
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Are you drinking a lot of sugared drinks/juice by chance? They tend to inhibit the ability to get sated.
When I started in my profession in 2014 I was 11 stone. Now i'm 13 stone. Time to lose some weight...
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Old 06.04.2020, 22:41
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Denmark to reopen schools and kindergartens next week
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only for younger kids (up to age 10-11) and they'll be spending most of the time in the forest and keeping the distance while indoors.
Denmark is still on the up curve though, so hmm...
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Old 06.04.2020, 22:51
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Google told me today that the UK doesn't actually have a succession plan in the law, which seems a bit crazy.
There's a designated survivor list which has a traditional format based upon ministerial rank. Traditionally, as with many other political systems, the leader and primary 'designated survivor' should never travel together. Many major international companies have a similar system where certain people within a company cannot travel on the same flight.

The probable Top 10 designated survivors are:

Should the Prime Minister choose to stick to tradition, the chain of command would be as follows:

Boris Johnson, Prime Minister
Dominic Raab, Foreign Secretary and First Secretary of State
Rishi Sunak, Chancellor of the Exchequer
Priti Patel, Home Secretary
Michael Gove, Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster
Robert Buckland, Lord Chancellor and Justice Secretary
Ben Wallace, Defence Secretary
Matt Hancock, Health Secretary
Alok Sharma, Business Secretary
Liz Truss, International Trade Secretary

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...rime-minister/
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Problem might also be visceral fat then?
I don't think you can draw that link that fast. You read your article on the cytokine storm. The virus 1st immunospresses you and then the real trouble starts with your own immunoresponse in overdrive that basically kills.

So, if obesity compromises one's immune system already and as a biproduct one cannot deal with many possible complications, then obesity is a comorbidity. But I am not sure about a direct link between obesity and the cytokine storm, there might be, but indirect.

The pulmonologist you listed mentioned in his description that yeast inf. was a major inconvenience, caused by the immunodepression (possibly responsible for loss of taste and smell maybe, he mentioned a biofilm). I think obesity and yeast inf., mycosis is related to sugar, so better have that under some control, lower the risk.

I cut out most of carbs, can't stand carbs when I cannot sprint everyday. So...how about lowering the sugar intake, rainer? Write here when you feel stressed, your zerohedge sources are interesting, or how you present them
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Are you drinking a lot of sugared drinks/juice by chance? They tend to inhibit the ability to get sated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM
I only drink tap water.

I've stopped buying juices long ago. And I never bought sugared drinks.

I just really miss my daily commute (by bike) to work.
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Old 06.04.2020, 23:35
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Re: Coronavirus

As for BoJo - while you can receive too little treatment, especially in times of a pandemic, there's also the danger of what is called "VIP-syndrome", where doctors panic and try all sorts of things without really waiting for one treatment to make any effect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VIP_medicine

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...-jackson-elvis

Former Israeli PM Ariel Sharon was supposed to be one such case.

So, I do hope he does make it through.

But this case hopefully finally drives home the point that while in most cases this thing may actually not be much worse than a flu, once you have it all bets are off and you should really, really take it seriously.
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Old 06.04.2020, 23:36
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Well currently bodies are going into refrigerator trucks, how decent is that? And they are running out of those too, the article says.
That last happened in the UK in 1995 or 96. My ex-husband was a monumental stonemason at the time, working for a firm of funeral directors. It was being redeployed to unload the incoming refridgerated trailers that caused his PTSD. We're going to see a huge upswing in PTSD when this is all done, same as NYC saw after 9/11. I remember reading that 6 months after 9/11, over half of the fire crews who worked on that and subsequent days, had been diagnosed with PTSD and were no longer living with their partners or families as a result.
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That last happened in the UK in 1995 or 96. My ex-husband was a monumental stonemason at the time, working for a firm of funeral directors. It was being redeployed to unload the incoming refridgerated trailers that caused his PTSD. We're going to see a huge upswing in PTSD when this is all done, same as NYC saw after 9/11. I remember reading that 6 months after 9/11, over half of the fire crews who worked on that and subsequent days, had been diagnosed with PTSD and were no longer living with their partners or families as a result.
I was in Manhattan that day (9/11) and went near Ground Zero later, through all that grey dust and saw the collapsed smoking buildings, it was unbelievable and surreal and I still remember the feeling - like someone had hacked a chunk from my chest. And it must be 1000 times stronger for the firefighters and others who had to actually do the work there...
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Almost 20 years on, most of them are probably dead from the long-term consequences of inhaling all the fumes and pulverized asbestos, vaporized lead and other stuff.

Congress dragged its feet long enough so that the financial consequences for the tax-payers are small. I think it only finally enacted a decent, permanent relief-fund last year....

We will see how this work out this time. A lot of those who survive will have serious lung damage, too.

My cynical, educated guess is that once all the bailed out companies pay bonuses again, politicians will argue that this will trickle down to the victims, too and no further action will be required....
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And it must be 1000 times stronger for the firefighters and others who had to actually do the work there...
PTSD is one of the most insidious mental conditions to deal with because it's born from a loss of control of your surroundings and what you're confronted with, so overloads the sufferer with opposing control impluses and emotions (fight, flight, rage and despair), plus absolute denial that there is something wrong.
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I only drink tap water.

I've stopped buying juices long ago. And I never bought sugared drinks.

I just really miss my daily commute (by bike) to work.
So who is stopping you from getting up at the same time as you used to and go out on your bike for the number of kilometre that you used to do? The laziness of the home office worker is unbelievable! And whoever said fruit juices were bad-unless its that commercial crap you buy.
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Old 07.04.2020, 07:42
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In the Netherlands 90% of people in the IC are Obese,

Once in the lungs the virus attaches more easily to adipose tissues, the more obese a person is the more of such tissue he has. And besides that it is harder for the lungs to breath when obese making it a double risk.
FWIW the theory is that it's not the virus attaching to that tissue but that adipose tissue produces ACE2 so the more adipose tissue the more ACE2. All still theoretical at this stage. The breathing thing is for sure a factor.
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I fear we're in for some terrible news in the next 24-48 hours. Praying for Boris Johnson to pull through
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I fear we're in for some terrible news in the next 24-48 hours. Praying for Boris Johnson to pull through
THey only put him in IC as a precaution. He's conscious though
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THey only put him in IC as a precaution. He's conscious though
You believe that?
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You believe that?
yes of course. Though when I saw him last he looked pretty bad
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