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Old 01.07.2020, 18:09
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Talking trends, just take a look over the last 2 or 3 weeks. As I posted before, the TA have picked early June as the start of the 2nd wave.
Don't really care what they call it, especially as they have reached the level of Blick or at best 20min in the last few weeks. Also, not sure why you are - yet again or rather still - so keen on calling a few cases in an identified controlled cluster a second wave. What do you gain from this, really? Even if it were, what does it matter? What do you think will happen? I'm happy to leave you in your continued state of drama - must get exhausting after 4 months - but if you choose to be rational, see comment earlier. It's not so hard to understand that eradication is not an option and controlled step-by-step immunity the only way forward, so be prepared for many more "waves" - that is assuming you want to call confirmed infections in <1% of the population a wave (currently even <0.01%)
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Old 01.07.2020, 18:22
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What kind of numbers (cases) did we have when we went into lockdown in March?
Trying to remember.
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It's looking like the rate of new cases per day is where we were at on 10-11 March.

Thu 5 Mar 87 + 29 / D 1
Fri 6 Mar 181 + 94 / D 1
Sat 7 Mar 264 + 83 / D 2 + 1
Sun 8 Mar 332 + 68 / D 2
Mon 9 Mar 374 + 42 / D 2
Tue 10 Mar 491 + 117 / D 3 + 1
Wed 11 Mar 645 + 155 / D 4
Thu 12 Mar 858 + 215 / D 6 + 2
Fri 13 Mar 1,125 + 267 / D 11 + 5 **Schools closed **
Sat 14 Mar 1,375 + 236 / D 13 + 2
Sun 15 Mar 2,217 + 842 / D 14 + 1
Mon 16 Mar 2,353 + 136 / D 19 + 5
Tue 17 Mar 2,742 + 389 / D 27 + 8 **Day 1 lockdown**

I only have the figures for ZH canton:

Tue 17 March 294 / D 1

Fri 27 March 1,578 cases / D 9
Sat 28 March 1,720 +142 / D 11 + 2
Sun 29 March 1,758 + 38 / D 15 + 4
Mon 30 March 1,874 + 116 / D 21 + 6
Tue 31 March 1,960 + 86 / D 25 + 4

I was hoping that hot weather would give us some respite from it spreading, but this doesn't appear to be the case.
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Old 01.07.2020, 18:28
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I'm happy to leave you in your continued state of drama - must get exhausting after 4 months - but if you choose to be rational, see comment earlier.
Having taken a few weeks away from this place, it's good to see some people are still in a drama fuelled state of denial and talking about controlled immunity when there's absolutely zero evidence to back that up...zilch! Nada!
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Old 01.07.2020, 18:54
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Horray! Masks become obligatory on public transport. Pity it takes them a week to implement it.

https://lenews.ch/2020/07/01/coronav...lic-transport/
I think it's only fair to give people a few days to get to shops and buy masks. I expect there will be a run on them again, and maybe some folks still won't be able to get a mask before Monday. When I was last in Coop they had exactly 3 boxes left on the shelf. I would hope more were in a back storage room.
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Don't really care what they call it, especially as they have reached the level of Blick or at best 20min in the last few weeks. Also, not sure why you are - yet again or rather still - so keen on calling a few cases in an identified controlled cluster a second wave. What do you gain from this, really? Even if it were, what does it matter? What do you think will happen? I'm happy to leave you in your continued state of drama - must get exhausting after 4 months - but if you choose to be rational, see comment earlier. It's not so hard to understand that eradication is not an option and controlled step-by-step immunity the only way forward, so be prepared for many more "waves" - that is assuming you want to call confirmed infections in <1% of the population a wave (currently even <0.01%)
Its all political shit!
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Old 01.07.2020, 19:04
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Re: Coronavirus

Someone posted here that 137 new cases were reported yesterday. I usually check the stats on:

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...y/switzerland/

and that site usually matches the #'s being reported elsewhere, but it's only showing 62 new cases having been reported for yesterday (not 137).

(If you scroll down, there is a graph titled "Daily New Cases in Switzerland" that shows the # of new cases for each day since February 15th, which you can see via a pop-up if you hold your mouse over the blue graph line).

So it's showing 62 new cases for yesterday, 35 for June 29th and 62 for June 28th.

Does anyone know where the # of 137 new cases was officially reported for yesterday? I'm starting to worry now that maybe that worldometer site that I usually check actually isn't very accurate even though the #'s had always matched up before.
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Old 01.07.2020, 19:23
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Someone posted here that 137 new cases were reported yesterday. I usually check the stats on:

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...y/switzerland/

and that site usually matches the #'s being reported elsewhere, but it's only showing 62 new cases having been reported for yesterday (not 137).

(If you scroll down, there is a graph titled "Daily New Cases in Switzerland" that shows the # of new cases for each day since February 15th, which you can see via a pop-up if you hold your mouse over the blue graph line).

So it's showing 62 new cases for yesterday, 35 for June 29th and 62 for June 28th.

Does anyone know where the # of 137 new cases was officially reported for yesterday? I'm starting to worry now that maybe that worldometer site that I usually check actually isn't very accurate even though the #'s had always matched up before.
137 is the number of today.

(Published sometime around 12:00/14:00 and taking in account the previous 24hours.)

World-o-meter is accurate in the sense that it just adds up all official publications with no regards of when a test was taken, it only looks at governments pushing out numbers and counts them on the day of publishing.
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Old 01.07.2020, 19:25
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Someone posted here that 137 new cases were reported yesterday. I usually check the stats on:

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...y/switzerland/

and that site usually matches the #'s being reported elsewhere, but it's only showing 62 new cases having been reported for yesterday (not 137).

(If you scroll down, there is a graph titled "Daily New Cases in Switzerland" that shows the # of new cases for each day since February 15th, which you can see via a pop-up if you hold your mouse over the blue graph line).

So it's showing 62 new cases for yesterday, 35 for June 29th and 62 for June 28th.

Does anyone know where the # of 137 new cases was officially reported for yesterday? I'm starting to worry now that maybe that worldometer site that I usually check actually isn't very accurate even though the #'s had always matched up before.
The authority reporting this number is BAG ...
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Old 01.07.2020, 19:26
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That's the number of today.

(Published sometime around 12:00/14:00 and taking in account the previous 24hours.)
Ah, okay. Thanks. (Sorry if I had misread something earlier).
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Don't really care what they call it, especially as they have reached the level of Blick or at best 20min in the last few weeks. Also, not sure why you are - yet again or rather still - so keen on calling a few cases in an identified controlled cluster a second wave. What do you gain from this, really? Even if it were, what does it matter? What do you think will happen? I'm happy to leave you in your continued state of drama - must get exhausting after 4 months - but if you choose to be rational, see comment earlier. It's not so hard to understand that eradication is not an option and controlled step-by-step immunity the only way forward, so be prepared for many more "waves" - that is assuming you want to call confirmed infections in <1% of the population a wave (currently even <0.01%)
Whar controlled cluster are you on about? Prevalence of new cases per population is pretty much level across the country. Of course, ZH has the most in absolute terms.
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Ah, okay. Thanks. (Sorry if I had misread something earlier).
Nope, that was what he said. A lot of people think the daily published number is from 0:01 till 0:00 of the previous day, but it is more 12:01 yesterday till 12:00 today.
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If the people who might check you agree with it, you could even pull a condom over your head and hold your breath.
The condom trick might work and my XXL condoms should be big enough
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The condom trick might work and my XXL condoms should be big enough
Yeah, those are made to be pulled over a big dick, that should fit perfectly
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Re: Coronavirus

For the cantonal and historic data this has the numbers since beginning
https://rsalzer.github.io/COVID_19_CH/#detail_ZH

Seems especially Zurich is full on for the wave 2 and would hope some more strict rules would come back since people dont seem to care at all about whole social distancing. 48 new cases today and last time it was this high was on 11th of April.
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Nope, that was what he said. A lot of people think the daily published number is from 0:01 till 0:00 of the previous day, but it is more 12:01 yesterday till 12:00 today.
And this is just for you! In case you are still uninformed

Von «sie nützen nichts» bis zur Pflicht – der grosse Maskenknorz des Bundes

From " they are useless" to " they protect us all ". Ignorant Swiss politicians. They should be digging roads!

https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/von-sie...s-947282253436
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For the cantonal and historic data this has the numbers since beginning
https://rsalzer.github.io/COVID_19_CH/#detail_ZH

Seems especially Zurich is full on for the wave 2 and would hope some more strict rules would come back since people dont seem to care at all about whole social distancing. 48 new cases today and last time it was this high was on 11th of April.
True, but truth is also that around the 11th of April testing was rare and almost only for those in medical need, now testing does happen much quicker and we had some spreading in bars amongst the youth who in April never would have been tested so much as has happened now.

So a number of 100 in the beginning of April must be assumed to have had a much bigger dark number behind it than a number of 100 today.
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Von «sie nützen nichts» bis zur Pflicht – der grosse Maskenknorz des Bundes

From " they are useless" to " they protect us all ". Ignorant Swiss politicians. They should be digging roads!

https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/von-sie...s-947282253436
Maybe one day you'll learn that stuff behind a paywall means shit to me and many others and is worthless in EF discussions. But I probably have my hopes up to high.
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Maybe one day you'll learn that stuff behind a paywall means shit to me and many others and is worthless in EF discussions. But I probably have my hopes up to high.
A headline is a headline:

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Was für ein Gstürm! Zuerst sagten sie: Masken sind für nichts. Jetzt sagen sie: Masken schützen uns alle. Das grosse Masken-Hin-und-Her des Bundes in einigen ausgewählten Zitaten.
Once you know this you're able to look for the news on the site of your preference. This is like people sharing screen captures of the bloomberg terminal on twitter. Even if the stuff is behind a paywall, the one-line lead is very valuable: you know what to look for.
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Re: Coronavirus

Out of nerdiness, I took a look at the Zurich airport stats at Eurocontrol site. The covid19 situation reduced the daily arrival/departures at Zürich/Kloten from 350 to 50 around June. During the worst part, 25-30 per day. That funny spike at the end of January every year is the Davos WEF.

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A headline is a headline:



Once you know this you're able to look for the news on the site of your preference. This is like people sharing screen captures of the bloomberg terminal on twitter. Even if the stuff is behind a paywall, the one-line lead is very valuable: you know what to look for.
TA "Mr Maskenfrei. Daniel Koch, der ehemalige Delegierte des Bundesamt für Gesundheit für Corona, betonte zu Beginn der Krise wiederholt, dass Masken für gesunde Leute nichts nützten."

Mr Mask Free. Daniel Koch, the former delegate of the Federal Office of Health for Corona, repeatedly emphasized at the beginning of the crisis that masks were of no use to healthy people.
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