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Old 28.02.2020, 20:13
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Does anyone know... If parts of Switzerland had a lock down as some areas in northern Italy are having, would there be advance notice of it so that people could go to the stores first? Or do you think it would be done very spontaneously?
My husband just told me that there is no need to stock up on anything, and I fear that maybe he's being a bit irrational. I just fear that, as the numbers here grow, the stores shelves could become increasingly bare.

This is a pretty good article about the reality that people in Lombardy are dealing with right now:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rus-cases-rise
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Old 28.02.2020, 20:22
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Does anyone know... If parts of Switzerland had a lock down as some areas in northern Italy are having, would there be advance notice of it so that people could go to the stores first? Or do you think it would be done very spontaneously?
My husband just told me that there is no need to stock up on anything, and I fear that maybe he's being a bit irrational. I just fear that, as the numbers here grow, the stores shelves could become increasingly bare.

This is a pretty good article about the reality that people in Lombardy are dealing with right now:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rus-cases-rise
No advanced notice or people would just scatter like roaches.

IMO even if the food trucks keep arriving indefinitely, would you want to increase your chances of exposure by having to go to the food store during an epidemic? There's also the chance that you could unknowingly have the virus yourself, and infect others by going out for supplies.

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Old 28.02.2020, 20:26
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No advanced notice or people would just scatter like roaches.

IMO even if the food trucks keep arriving indefinitely, would you want to increase your chances of exposure by having to go to the food store during an epidemic? There's also the chance that you could also unknowingly have the virus yourself, and infect others by going out for supplies.

I'd rather take the risk of becoming infected than starve.
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Old 28.02.2020, 20:28
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No advanced notice or people would just scatter like roaches.

IMO even if the food trucks keep arriving indefinitely, would you want to increase your chances of exposure by having to go to the food store during an epidemic? There's also the chance that you could also unknowingly have the virus yourself, and infect others by going out for supplies.
Thanks. I had a feeling they wouldn't give advance notice or yes, people would end up storming all the stores at the same time. But I guess I wasn't sure how that kind of thing works, exactly.
The way I see it... I'd rather be safe than sorry. I think my husband doesn't have a very realistic understanding of what's been happening with the virus and what could potentially happen because of it.
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Old 28.02.2020, 20:30
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I'd rather take the risk of becoming infected than starve.
Sure, but why not just stock up on food and lay low? You can't get infected unless you are around infected people.

or infected dogs, maybe.
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Old 28.02.2020, 20:35
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Re: Coronavirus

I heard, peanut butter is the best survival food
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Old 28.02.2020, 20:42
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Meanwhile the Turks are opening their borders for the millions of Syrian refugees to make their way to Europe.
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Old 28.02.2020, 20:54
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Number of deaths/day and new infections/day, would be a good measure stick for me. Also recoveries so far as total of infections. Everything else is now secondary.
Some information about the amount of care patients require would also be helpful. Is there a metric for that? With a regular flu, for most people it’s a few days of discomfort and everything is back to normal in a week or 10 days. With CV it seems many patients, even the ones recovering, are requiring weeks of care and resources.

By all accounts China health care has collapsed under the load. There isn’t much extra capacity in most western health care systems. Maybe Switzerland is different. My expectation is that most infected people will be in their own and should plan accordingly.
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Meanwhile the Turks are opening their borders for the millions of Syrian refugees to make their way to Europe.
Is this actually true? I know Erdogan has referenced that Concept in the past, but if he’s now planning to send hoardes of infected to Europe, I will need to greatly expand my planning.
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I heard, peanut butter is the best survival food
stock up peanut butter
It is a very good one. I wanted to pick up a few extra at Migros today but they only had the small sizes of MClassic “crunchy”. I will try another Migros tomorrow AM.
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China Health care has collapsed? What nonsense..

Obviously it’s stretched in Wuhan but even there, collapsed would definitely be the wrong word for it.

In Singapore, you would go straight to prison for posting such nonsense. (Yeah, we aren’t in Singapore, freedom of speech and all, but trying to cause panic imho should be punishable also in Switzerland)
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Old 28.02.2020, 21:12
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Does anyone know... If parts of Switzerland had a lock down as some areas in northern Italy are having, would there be advance notice of it so that people could go to the stores first? Or do you think it would be done very spontaneously?
In the restricted zones, the police patrol to keep visitors out and residents in. The supermarkets are open and supplied, but limit the number of customers allowed in at any one time. The idea is to reduce opportunity for the virus to spread. Keep people separated from one another. Not to imprison people in their homes without food.

I've noticed in our local supermarkets since about Monday, they're all wearing disposable gloves. I pay by card... contactless payment.
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Old 28.02.2020, 21:20
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Does anyone know... If parts of Switzerland had a lock down as some areas in northern Italy are having, would there be advance notice of it so that people could go to the stores first? Or do you think it would be done very spontaneously?
My husband just told me that there is no need to stock up on anything, and I fear that maybe he's being a bit irrational. I just fear that, as the numbers here grow, the stores shelves could become increasingly bare.

This is a pretty good article about the reality that people in Lombardy are dealing with right now:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...rus-cases-rise
We're at stage 2, particular situation according to the notification from the Federal Council today. We'd have to be at stage 3, epidemic situation, for the Federal Council to start imposing quarantines on population centers. Cantons can't do it, according to the 2013 epidemics law. We're not there yet, but give it another couple of weeks and who knows? I'd stock up while you can.

There'll be the very real situation also for those who want to use supermarkets that they might have to respect a "no more than 1 person per 2m2" rule, so that means queues outside supermarkets could be coming. Welcome to WW2 rationing queues. It might take a whole day in some places to just get in the supermarket. Home deliveries would be the best bet in this situation, I'm sure leshop.ch and coop@home are doing a roaring trade at the moment.
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Old 28.02.2020, 21:25
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In the restricted zones, the police patrol to keep visitors out and residents in. The supermarkets are open and supplied, but limit the number of customers allowed in at any one time. The idea is to reduce opportunity for the virus to spread. Keep people separated from one another. Not to imprison people in their homes without food.

I've noticed in our local supermarkets since about Monday, they're all wearing disposable gloves. I pay by card... contactless payment.
My OH begged me to go to Coop/Migros this morning to stock up on provisions. I thought he was overreacting a tad bit but I did go, (I live near Kreutzplatz, Zurich) and both stores there are fully stocked and no issues. Also no gloves worn by employees there from what I saw.

Can I just say what a pain- literally- it was to carry two HUGE bags of "provisions" back to our place. My OH is very happy but oh...my aching back
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Old 28.02.2020, 21:41
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Home deliveries would be the best bet in this situation, I'm sure leshop.ch and coop@home are doing a roaring trade at the moment.
The danger is when too many of the population are ill, there's no-one to do the deliveries. It seems with Covid19 though that most people won't get terribly sick, so that particular issue won't be so bad.
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Re: Coronavirus

If you're wondering what to stock up on, the Swiss Government has been editing a brochure since the 60s on this: https://www.bwl.admin.ch/bwl/en/home/themen/notvorrat.html
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Old 28.02.2020, 22:09
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Another case confirmed in Switzerland, a person in their 30s living in Valais this time.
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If you're wondering what to stock up on, the Swiss Government has been editing a brochure since the 60s on this: https://www.bwl.admin.ch/bwl/en/home/themen/notvorrat.html
wow that's interesting! I'm gonna get a glass of red now and make a list for my emergency backpack.
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