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Ahh, nothing bring out the nutjobs like a good global crisis and political upheaval.

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https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...treat-covid-19

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Old 29.08.2020, 12:57
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Re: Coronavirus

Cases rising everywhere, but deaths and hospitalisations remaining low. Mortality rate now appears to be very much in line with seasonal flu. Could we be heading to the end of the crisis?

We had a letter from the local primary school this weekend that one of the kids had tested positive for Covid. The rest of the class has been tested and not a single other child had the virus.
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Cases rising everywhere, but deaths and hospitalisations remaining low. Mortality rate now appears to be very much in line with seasonal flu. Could we be heading to the end of the crisis?

We had a letter from the local primary school this weekend that one of the kids had tested positive for Covid. The rest of the class has been tested and not a single other child had the virus.
What are you doing online? There are two mad hatters parties going on in London and Berlin. Much more fun and you might just catch something.
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Old 29.08.2020, 16:29
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Thanks, both. So vitamin C has been shown to ease inflammation and may have some potential in treatment of sepsis and ARDS. There is absolutely no clinical evidence of efficacy in COVID-19 patients and definitely not even the hint of a suggestion that vitamin C could cure the disease.
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In case anyone needs to re-stock their mask supply, ALDI has reduced the price of their 50 pack box of masks to CHF 15.90. The 10 pack is now CHF 3.99.

The have the masks at the check out (at least at the stores in my area).
UPDATE: Lidl has matched Aldi's pricing (or vis-versa). 50 pack box of masks for CHF 15.90 (big display at the entrance at our local store).
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Old 29.08.2020, 19:05
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What are you doing online? There are two mad hatters parties going on in London and Berlin. Much more fun and you might just catch something.
You know what's really interesting about this whole pandemic is how so many people revert to insults and outright aggression when the gaping holes in their coronavirus narrative are pointed out to them.

For anyone who is interested, this type of behaviour is explored in great detail in the book "When Prophecy Fails" by Leon Festinger which I would heartily recommend.

https://www.amazon.com/When-Prophecy...p%2C347&sr=1-2
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You know what's really interesting about this whole pandemic is how so many people revert to insults and outright aggression when the gaping holes in their coronavirus narrative are pointed out to them.
Your post are generally nothing short of risible, so of course you get insults when you repeat them ad nauseum. Would it be any different in real-life, were you to go around effusively and repeatedly COVID-denying to people every time you saw them?

I would bet my hind leg that your alternate science and political views are limited to online forums and that you don't voice them to people outside of the internet (that aren't your close friends and family at least), because you would surely be laughed out of any room by the vast majority of intelligent and rational people.

All we have to do is look at the company you keep, those members who frequently share and thank your fringe right-wing, scientific medical, social and political views. It's basically a Who's Who of the forums worst characters. Case closed, m'lud.
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Your post are generally nothing short of risible, so of course you get insults when you repeat them ad nauseum. Would it be any different in real-life, were you to go around effusively and repeatedly COVID-denying to people every time you saw them?

I would bet my hind leg that your alternate science and political views are limited to online forums and that you don't voice them to people outside of the internet (that aren't your close friends and family at least), because you would surely be laughed out of any room by the vast majority of intelligent and rational people.

All we have to do is look at the company you keep, those members who frequently share and thank your fringe right-wing, scientific medical, social and political views. It's basically a Who's Who of the forums worst characters. Case closed, m'lud.
Tbf he appears to be posting under his real name. That would indicate that he his happy enough for his views to be known. Unless of course Tony Clifton is not his real name after all.
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Old 29.08.2020, 23:58
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You know what's really interesting about this whole pandemic is how so many people revert to insults and outright aggression when the gaping holes in their coronavirus narrative are pointed out to them.

For anyone who is interested, this type of behaviour is explored in great detail in the book "When Prophecy Fails" by Leon Festinger which I would heartily recommend.

https://www.amazon.com/When-Prophecy...p%2C347&sr=1-2
Since you take interest in behavioral psychology, as I do, perhaps you might take interest in this article where psychologists discuss why some people deny the reality of COVID-19.

Why Are Some People in Denial With the Realities of COVID-19?
https://www.sciencetimes.com/article...s-covid-19.htm


Psychologists Eve and Mark Whitmore, who had been in the field for more than 30 years, explain why there are still many people in denial during this pandemic.

Denial and Rationalization

Clinical psychologist Eve Whitmore said that denial as a construct in psychology that describes how people deal with the reality constructs.

It is a way for people to defend themselves against anxiety, Mark Whitmore added. During stressful events, people get anxious and perceives the stimulus as a threat, so they then create strategies to protect themselves or their sense of safety and security.

One of these ways is to deny the existence of that thing that causes their anxiety. They would say that the pandemic was just a hoax that does not really exist.

Whether people would choose to react more positively or through denial, it all goes down to the lack of feeling in control of the situation. People create a myth about the pandemic to make themselves believe that it is not real or that it is not severe."

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There is also an interesting page on Denialism on Wikipedia that you might want to check out:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism

"In the psychology of human behavior, denialism is a person's choice to deny reality as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth.[1] Denialism is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of a historical experience or event, when a person refuses to accept an empirically verifiable reality."
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Re: Coronavirus

Im sort of the opposite of the "denier" - im quite nervous of catching the disease and tend to wear a mask everywhere indoors and wore it in the train before it was compulsory but rationally I think the risk to me at my age and health status is pretty much non existent.

Then again I also fainted whilst giving blood... in the queue. Do I think I'm just a general psych case.
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Tbf he appears to be posting under his real name. That would indicate that he his happy enough for his views to be known. Unless of course Tony Clifton is not his real name after all.
Don't be so naive... just because people have a real looking name as their username doesn't mean it's their real name.

Tony Clifton is the name of a comedy character https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Clifton

I can't remember the last time I saw a right wing troll with fringe / conspiracy theorist views post under their real, identifiabe and traceable surname.

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Old 30.08.2020, 09:02
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Im sort of the opposite of the "denier" - im quite nervous of catching the disease and tend to wear a mask everywhere indoors and wore it in the train before it was compulsory but rationally I think the risk to me at my age and health status is pretty much non existent.

Then again I also fainted whilst giving blood... in the queue. Do I think I'm just a general psych case.
No. Just a realist. Do you have a fear of needles? That's quite common (Trypanophobia). Mine is a fear of snakes.

I think a lot of people here in the West thought wearing masks was bizarre at first, and then it becomes enforced and slowly becomes the norm. And if that's what we have to do to try to help get this damn pandemic behind us once and for all, then so be it. It's a very small sacrifice for a much bigger cause.
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Oh goodness... https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/protest...n-394525637659

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Over 1000 critics of the federal government's Covid-19 measures gathered in the late afternoon on Helvetiaplatz for a rally. Skirmishes broke out at another demonstration that night.

Demonstration without a protective mask: Critics of the pandemic measures taken by the federal government gathered on Zurich's Herlvetiaplatz on Saturday.

Under the motto "Back to freedom", the organizers called for a rally against the requirement to wear a mask and an allegedly threatened mandatory vaccination in connection with the corona pandemic.

Several speakers criticized the way politicians and authorities deal with Covid-19 in Switzerland. The protective measures are excessive and sometimes counterproductive. The application of emergency law has robbed people of their rights and freedom.
Sad to see.
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Old 30.08.2020, 10:17
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Every country has its idiots...
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Old 30.08.2020, 10:22
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Also sad that people claim it infringes their freedom etc. May they never have to live in a country where you have less human rights.....

My point of wearing a mask is simple, I hope it protects me and others (even when it can be fairly annoying when you have to wear glasses). No, I do not see this as impacting my human rights, I see this as a way to hopefully avoid getting the virus and possibly protecting others.
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Also sad that people claim it infringes their freedom etc. May they never have to live in a country where you have less human rights.....

My point of wearing a mask is simple, I hope it protects me and others (even when it can be fairly annoying when you have to wear glasses). No, I do not see this as impacting my human rights, I see this as a way to hopefully avoid getting the virus and possibly protecting others.
Yep, these people clearly are not realistic about what real liberty and freedom is if they think that measures designed to reduce pandemic infections such as wearing masks even slightly translates to genuine oppression. These people are not logical and are most certainly not rational and sadly they are only putting other people at greater risk of infection.
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Don't be so naive... just because people have a real looking name as their username doesn't mean it's their real name.

Tony Clifton is the name of a comedy character https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Clifton
The name of a fake character, no less. I think itís safe to say our libertarian contrarian friend goes by another name IRL.
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Every country has its idiots...
Is that because of what they're protesting against of because they're protesting at all? If it's the latter, did you hold the same view for the summer BLM protests (that didn't result in a spike in infections)

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My point of wearing a mask is simple, I hope it protects me and others (even when it can be fairly annoying when you have to wear glasses). No, I do not see this as impacting my human rights, I see this as a way to hopefully avoid getting the virus and possibly protecting others.
Germany went to court to try and stop yesterday's protest. In Europe people have been put in prison for venturing further than 1 km from their house. People are fined for not wearing a face masks. Tell me again about how the Covid pandemic hasn't infringed on people's freedom.
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Yep, these people clearly are not realistic about what real liberty and freedom is if they think that measures designed to reduce pandemic infections such as wearing masks even slightly translates to genuine oppression. These people are not logical and are most certainly not rational and sadly they are only putting other people at greater risk of infection.
If some of my acquaintances are anything to go by, many of these protesters think that mandatory masks are the first step down the slippery slope to "them" controlling your entire life, including mandatory vaccinations, implanted computer chips, etc.
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