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Yes you should not have told us. Bye. Off to wash my hands!
Lol, that was funny. Don't forget to wash your hands for 20 seconds though...
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Lol, that was funny. Don't forget to wash your hands for 20 seconds though...
Yes. The toilet in the Migros Restaurant looks now like a pre-op scrub up from an operating theatre!
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Old 03.03.2020, 08:56
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Yes. The toilet in the Migros Restaurant looks now like a pre-op scrub up from an operating theatre!
Or ancient German pron movie...Oops, I said it.
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Old 03.03.2020, 10:05
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Re: Coronavirus

so what does one do now if one of your household is sick with similar, but not exact symptoms ?

called the doc and they said stay at home...

son and i flew in from UK yesterday and now son is sick...

i would at least like to know if its just a common cold (which it looks like) or the dreaded...

i do have a feeling there's a lot more undisguised than we realise.
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Effects of Coronavirus on Border Crossings?

I would like to know if anyone knows if there are any difficulties crossing the borders because of the coronavirus. I am particularly interested about that at the Italian border. I haven't been here long enough to have a clue.
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Old 03.03.2020, 10:13
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so what does one do now if one of your household is sick with similar, but not exact symptoms ?

called the doc and they said stay at home...

son and i flew in from UK yesterday and now son is sick...

i would at least like to know if its just a common cold (which it looks like) or the dreaded...

i do have a feeling there's a lot more undisguised than we realise.
if you look like this



then its probably Coronavirus
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Old 03.03.2020, 10:16
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so what does one do now if one of your household is sick with similar, but not exact symptoms ?

called the doc and they said stay at home...

son and i flew in from UK yesterday and now son is sick...

i would at least like to know if its just a common cold (which it looks like) or the dreaded...

i do have a feeling there's a lot more undisguised than we realise.

A normal cold / flu will generally not turn into pneumonia, generally unless you end up with pneumonia it will pass like a normal cold / flu. It's the pneumonia that seems to be killing people.

If I end up with symptoms I will use my pulse oximeter to check my oxygen levels.. Only if i see a drop there would i consider calling a medic.


** I'm not an expert, take my advice with a pinch of salt **
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Old 03.03.2020, 10:27
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I would like to know if anyone knows if there are any difficulties crossing the borders because of the coronavirus. I am particularly interested about that at the Italian border. I haven't been here long enough to have a clue.
It's no problem, 70000 Italians do it every day!

My wife did several times Saturday and Sunday.

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if you look like this



then its probably Coronavirus
...or man flu.
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Old 03.03.2020, 10:36
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if you look like this



then its probably Coronavirus
Now I really don't understand. They look just the same as everyone else
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Old 03.03.2020, 10:48
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Re: Coronavirus

Well, how closely packed are the guys on military service? 1st case in the Schweizer armee

https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/coro...en-ersten-fall
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Old 03.03.2020, 10:51
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im due to fly to nyc next week for a trip already paid for and non refundable. tbh the money isnt the issue it's more like i really want to go and so at this moment in time i'm definitely going. i just thought i'd ask what people on here would do. would you go?
I'd probably go, but that would depend on my reason for going, e.g. we cancelled plans to visit my OH's 90yr old mum this weekend because she's (obviously) high risk. We could have still gone to Athens and booked a hotel, but the purpose was to spend time with her.

Just make sure you've got excellent travel insurance to cover any medical costs, flight cancellations, loss of earnings, etc. For this, search for advice from Martin Lewis on twitter, and of the Money Saving Expert website in the UK. He's currently got a team working on finding the most comprehensive travel insurance for these circumstances, and they're due to publish the results tonight.
https://twitter.com/MartinSLewis/sta...27294988963841

One change I would make is that I'd wash my hands as soon as possible after passing through security because the hand luggage inspection trays aren't clean.
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Old 03.03.2020, 11:01
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so what does one do now if one of your household is sick with similar, but not exact symptoms ?

called the doc and they said stay at home...

son and i flew in from UK yesterday and now son is sick...

i would at least like to know if its just a common cold (which it looks like) or the dreaded...

i do have a feeling there's a lot more undisguised than we realise.
First of all, young people are hardly seriously effected by the disease and toddlers even less. Yes the can get it, but will hardly be effected by it.

There are still some influenza's going around and we have tested positive for a common non-influenza virus which loves to stuff your nose and give you a cough and fever for which we got nose sprays.

Your doctor will ask you if you've been to high risk areas, if you met people from such areas if that all is a no (which it seems to be in your case) they'll tell you to indeed do what you always do with kids, keep them home for a few days and if a fever stays give them a new call after which they'll tell you to come in and do a swap from your tong and a bloodtest for all the normal common stuff. If they fail to find any reason for your symptoms and if your symptoms are corona like they will send you to the hospital for further assessment.

We (Me, my OH and 3,5 your old boy) all been home for a week now all coughing and fever, my wife was in London last week. And have tested positive for rather innocent yet inconvenient viruses. In our case our boy has the most severe symptoms which already is an indication is should not be corona.
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Re: Coronavirus

Just a quick side note, since some people would tend to brush off this new strain of coronavirus as being almost as harmless as the flu, given the 2% fatality rate. That number isn't accurate. It's 6% currently.

Yes, there have been 88,948 confirmed cases and 3,043 deaths, but the number of patients recovered is 45,393. So the number of people who've had it and don't have it anymore is 48,436 and 3,043 of whom are dead. That makes the fatality rate 6.28%.

The actual fatality rate won't be known until everyone who got the disease either recovers or dies, but so far, the fatality rate is much higher than the 2% that's being bandied about.
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Old 03.03.2020, 11:07
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Just a quick side note, since some people would tend to brush off this new strain of coronavirus as being almost as harmless as the flu, given the 2% fatality rate. That number isn't accurate. It's 6% currently.

Yes, there have been 88,948 confirmed cases and 3,043 deaths, but the number of patients recovered is 45,393. So the number of people who've had it and don't have it anymore is 48,436 and 3,043 of whom are dead. That makes the fatality rate 6.28%.

The actual fatality rate won't be known until everyone who got the disease either recovers or dies, but so far, the fatality rate is much higher than the 2% that's being bandied about.
except as stated thousands of times already a lot of people have it / have had it and had no idea, you're only hearing about the serious / confirmed cases so stop being a drama queen
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First of all, young people are hardly seriously effected by the disease and toddlers even less. Yes the can get it, but will hardly be effected by it.

There are still some influenza's going around and we have tested positive for a common non-influenza virus which loves to stuff your nose and give you a cough and fever for which we got nose sprays.

Your doctor will ask you if you've been to high risk areas, if you met people from such areas if that all is a no (which it seems to be in your case) they'll tell you to indeed do what you always do with kids, keep them home for a few days and if a fever stays give them a new call after which they'll tell you to come in and do a swap from your tong and a bloodtest for all the normal common stuff. If they fail to find any reason for your symptoms and if your symptoms are corona like they will send you to the hospital for further assessment.

We (Me, my OH and 3,5 your old boy) all been home for a week now all coughing and fever, my wife was in London last week. And have tested positive for rather innocent yet inconvenient viruses. In our case our boy has the most severe symptoms which already is an indication is should not be corona.

thanks edwin for sharing your story (am glad you and your family have been tested and are hopefully on the mend)
one thing i don't understand, what do you mean your son has the most severe symptoms? and why does this indicate not covid-19?
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Old 03.03.2020, 11:14
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thanks edwin for sharing your story (am glad you and your family have been tested and are hopefully on the mend)
one thing i don't understand, what do you mean your son has the most severe symptoms? and why does this indicate not covid-19?
The younger people are the less they are effected by the virus, I'm 47 and my kid is 3,5 statistically it is very highly unlikely that I only have a small fever and little cough, while he coughs almost 24/7 and we are in the 6th day of surprising a fever which has reached 40 (or even higher) on a daily base.

I still play a lot with him or he sleeps in my arms on the couch, and he coughs me in the face dozens of times a day, so I have what he has.
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The younger people are the less they are effected by the virus, I'm 47 and my kid is 3,5 statistically it is very highly unlikely that I only have a small fever and little cough, while he coughs almost 24/7 and we are in the 6th day of surprising a fever which has reached 40 (or even higher) on a daily base.

I still play a lot with him or he sleeps in my arms on the couch, and he coughs me in the face dozens of times a day, so I have what he has.

but you were tested by your local doctor? for covid19 i mean? (cos those symptoms and the high fever...)
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except as stated thousands of times already a lot of people have it / have had it and had no idea, you're only hearing about the serious / confirmed cases so stop being a drama queen
Okay boomer, dunno why you interpreted my post that way, I was merely trying to present a more accurate percentage of the current fatality rate based on the numbers we have.

2% is just false.
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but you were tested by your local doctor? for covid19 i mean? (cos those symptoms and the high fever...)
A local doctor cannot test for Covid-19, only hospitals can do such. Tests are costly and not in unlimited amount (also on manpower since they are pretty labour intensive)

Unless you've been to high risk areas (think: South Korea, the effected part of Italy, have a family member who did so and also has symptoms, or a colleague has it they'll first run the normal tests and in our case another virus has been proven that exact matches our symptoms. Also his daycare has 200 other kids and my wife been to a congress of 700 people who keep track of their guests and none is coronasuspect.
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