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Old 04.03.2020, 14:21
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Expect very, very dry hands from disinfecting with alcohol. Not sure very dry skin is not very receptive to anything it shouldn't?
I am growing webs between my fingers from all the hand washing, is this normal?
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Old 04.03.2020, 14:24
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It's time to be concerned about your sexual magnetism when health professionals start erecting signs warning not to kiss you.
You lost me at erecting.
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Old 04.03.2020, 14:34
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You lost me at erecting.
Don't worry, I'm sure they have it in hand. Additional erection work shall be carried out to increase the awareness of the signs.
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Old 04.03.2020, 14:35
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Italy is going to close all schools and universities nationwide for at least the next two weeks.
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Old 04.03.2020, 14:37
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I used some of the Dettol wipes and dry skin was almost immediate...and uncomfortable. It's a problem worth mentioning as dry skin is more prone to infection and complications. Dexeryl creme counteracted with good results though.

Bepanthen also makes several products and other "baby" type cremes work and seem to be plentiful. Crabtree's Gardners moisturizers have also been very good for me but can be pricey in large quantity.

Is there anything like a Bag Balm or Udder Creme readily available from ag supply or similar?

There is some 100% lanolin breastfeeding creme which might also be good. I haven't needed to try so far.
Shea butter is good and greasy. Lush (it is pretty odor low compared to other Lush things, called something like "magic elbow treatment", I can't temember), Occitaine and Body Shop have ton.

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Old 04.03.2020, 15:38
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My employer has split many teams in two, so as of tomorrow we do one week at home and one week in the office in anti-phase, so to speak.
You work for the same employer as my OH. He's at home next week, but I don't understand why they don't allow everyone to work from home if they can, purely to cut out the commute? I mean, they're so spread out in the office now that they might as well be at home.
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Oh, also gonna wipe down the washing machine before doing my laundry, and do 60 degrees...(not sure if that's enough)
60 degrees has always been recommended for bed linen and towels because it kills bed bugs and most bacteria. I'm doing everything on 60 for the time being. It's only an extra 10mins on the machine cycle, so you might as well do it. In an ideal world, each member of a household would have their own towels that they take to the bathroom with them, but it's pretty impractical.
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At least 2301 now, as I had to be tested this morning.
Very glad you tested negative luv.
Did they ask you to go into the surgery for the test?
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Old 04.03.2020, 15:50
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The fear is not about what it is now, the fear is about what it can become. With a spread which is as easily or even easier than the flu since the virus has a bigger chance of nestling in a body it enters due to it's more effective technics, and a 20% rate of (based on the discovered cases in China, Italy and South-Korea) people who need to be hospitalised of which 6% even needs IC the potential for a huge disaster is enormous. Also people say "oh in summer it will go to sleep" yes it might, and that is where the even biggest risk is, that it during summer can just keep on spreading without us noticing only to become widespread and active in autumn putting our lifestyle and economy on a full halt. The Spanish flu was deadly during it's 1st winter, but the real big numbers of tens of million dying came after summer when the by then widespread Spanish flu become active again. So either we tackle this soon or we lost the war.
I read somewhere that COVID-19 is as dangerous as Spanish flu was - in the percentage of people that it can kill.

The only reason why you might see a higher percentage for Spanish flu as there were a lot of malnourished (with diminished immune system) people who were more susceptible to health conditions caused by the flu.
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May the airlines still demand compensation from Boeing for the grounded Max 737 if actually they cancel flights due to the epidemic? ;-)
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Old 04.03.2020, 15:57
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I used some of the Dettol wipes and dry skin was almost immediate...and uncomfortable. It's a problem worth mentioning as dry skin is more prone to infection and complications. Dexeryl creme counteracted with good results though.
Back when I worked in a bakery, we used to wash our hands 20-40 times per shift and use an alcohol based wash before touching the product. Hands drying out to the point of skin cracking and bleeding was a big problem for us all. I'm allergic to lanolin and most Nivea products, so used a Body Shop hemp based hand cream, Neutrogena hand gel, and Carex Aloe Vera hand wash, but the best thing of all was soaking you hands in warm olive oil a couple of times a week. It's messy, but it made a huge difference to us.
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Old 04.03.2020, 16:06
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Neuchâtel has increased the measures in place.

No events of 500 people or more in a confined area, all camps and school trips cancelled from a Monday onwards until the end of April plus other stuff related to vulnerable people (limiting visits to relatives in hospital or old folks homes etc)

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https://www.ne.ch/medias/Pages/20200...-cantonal.aspx
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Old 04.03.2020, 16:13
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I read somewhere that COVID-19 is as dangerous as Spanish flu was - in the percentage of people that it can kill.

The only reason why you might see a higher percentage for Spanish flu as there were a lot of malnourished (with diminished immune system) people who were more susceptible to health conditions caused by the flu.
Spanish flu from the point of view from the virus could hardly have picked a better time in history, poverty, huge mass transportations of humans/soldiers over the world, lots of people in bad shape already, healthcare systems already overrun by war victims and nobody had time or money to lock themselves up for weeks.

This virus has no problem with spreading quickly and partly undiscovered among even the most healthy populations and its potential to quickly overrun our medical systems is huge with 20% (of discovered cases) needing medical care. Look at Italy atm, it is possible that in 10 days or some weeks even the medical system in Switzerland cannot be stretched any further and that is where things really start running out of control.

If it were up to me I would not mind governments acting more pro-active, close the schools, promote home working, cancel concerts and all such stuff, disable public transport. It might work and if so we save a lot, why wait till the numbers have reached the point where we have no choice than to do such. Worst is if that works than there will be people saying "see told you, we did all that shit for nothing, only a couple of thousand people died, it was a rubbish virus" (Damn do I hate such people) this virus has by now shown what it can do without extreme measurements.
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Old 04.03.2020, 16:32
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Spanish flu from the point of view from the virus could hardly have picked a better time in history, poverty, huge mass transportations of humans/soldiers over the world, lots of people in bad shape already, healthcare systems already overrun by war victims and nobody had time or money to lock themselves up for weeks.

This virus has no problem with spreading quickly and partly undiscovered among even the most healthy populations and its potential to quickly overrun our medical systems is huge with 20% (of discovered cases) needing medical care. Look at Italy atm, it is possible that in 10 days or some weeks even the medical system in Switzerland cannot be stretched any further and that is where things really start running out of control.

If it were up to me I would not mind governments acting more pro-active, close the schools, promote home working, cancel concerts and all such stuff, disable public transport. It might work and if so we save a lot, why wait till the numbers have reached the point where we have no choice than to do such. Worst is if that works than there will be people saying "see told you, we did all that shit for nothing, only a couple of thousand people died, it was a rubbish virus" (Damn do I hate such people) this virus has by now shown what it can do without extreme measurements.
It is the public transport and schools that need immediate attention, about a week ago.
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May the airlines still demand compensation from Boeing for the grounded Max 737 if actually they cancel flights due to the epidemic? ;-)
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Old 04.03.2020, 16:51
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At least 2301 now, as I had to be tested this morning. Luckily I just have a chest infection but the symptoms of a fever, racking cough and aches had my Dr worried. The nurses at my surgery were so pleased I tested negative, they almost kissed me, but there are big signs up everywhere forbidding it.


Kissing nurses...where's your surgery? I'm coming!
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Neuchâtel has increased the measures in place.

No events of 500 people or more in a confined area, all camps and school trips cancelled from a Monday onwards until the end of April plus other stuff related to vulnerable people (limiting visits to relatives in hospital or old folks homes etc)

Details are here:

https://www.ne.ch/medias/Pages/20200...-cantonal.aspx
Well in the Migros Restaurant Zurich City there is at least 200 at midday eating. Really should be closed!
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Old 04.03.2020, 16:53
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Well in the Migros Restaurant Zurich City there is at least 200 at midday eating. Really should be closed!
Just the open buffets?
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Old 04.03.2020, 17:00
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Re: Coronavirus

Popped out at Coop today for a quick bite, some milk, 2 packs of butter, AA batteries and a pack of frozen oven chips (my conscience told me to grab this green salad at the very last minute!)....the shop was empty, the shelves full, the cashier had time for a little chat, absolutely delightful! I still have to witness here the hysteria some of you seem to be describing.


At the Coop restaurant which, in contrast, was full to the brim, I sat next to two old ladies just as they were discussing their age: one was 91, the other 87.
First, it's nice to see that the old ladies of Geneva aren't bothered the slightest about Covid 19 virus and still enjoy luncheon with a glass of wine; secondly, they managed to get a conversation going for a whole 20 minutes on whether, when a relative is collecting you for Sunday lunch, it's best to wait sitting by the lift of the floor you live in or standing outside where you get fresh air but cannot sit down and, "frankly, it's high time the general Assembly of co- owners should vote for benches to be installed by the main entrance"...oops, now the conversation has shifted to the size, shape and peeling skills required for parsnips...thirdly, why on Earth am I getting engrossed into this conversation??? Is this my life?? I will blame it on a bad cold and challenging classes this morning!
Still, I am glad to share with you a completely boring but normal slice of life in heavily dense Geneva, where life does not appear particularly disturbed.
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Well in the Migros Restaurant Zurich City there is at least 200 at midday eating. Really should be closed!
Even their toilets??? (Or isn't it on your study map today?)
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Back when I worked in a bakery, we used to wash our hands 20-40 times per shift and use an alcohol based wash before touching the product. Hands drying out to the point of skin cracking and bleeding was a big problem for us all. I'm allergic to lanolin and most Nivea products, so used a Body Shop hemp based hand cream, Neutrogena hand gel, and Carex Aloe Vera hand wash, but the best thing of all was soaking you hands in warm olive oil a couple of times a week. It's messy, but it made a huge difference to us.
And then used the oil to serve with the salads to customers! No wastage!
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Popped out at Coop today for a quick bite, some milk, 2 packs of butter, AA batteries and a pack of frozen oven chips (my conscience told me to grab this green salad at the very last minute!)....the shop was empty, the shelves full, the cashier had time for a little chat, absolutely delightful! I still have to witness here the hysteria some of you seem to be describing.


At the Coop restaurant which, in contrast, was full to the brim, I sat next to two old ladies just as they were discussing their age: one was 91, the other 87.
First, it's nice to see that the old ladies of Geneva aren't bothered the slightest about Covid 19 virus and still enjoy luncheon with a glass of wine; secondly, they managed to get a conversation going for a whole 20 minutes on whether, when a relative is collecting you for Sunday lunch, it's best to wait sitting by the lift of the floor you live in or standing outside where you get fresh air but cannot sit down and, "frankly, it's high time the general Assembly of co- owners should vote for benches to be installed by the main entrance"...oops, now the conversation has shifted to the size, shape and peeling skills required for parsnips...thirdly, why on Earth am I getting engrossed into this conversation??? Is this my life?? I will blame it on a bad cold and challenging classes this morning!
Still, I am glad to share with you a completely boring but normal slice of life in heavily dense Geneva, where life does not appear particularly disturbed.
I almost couldn't fit in the bus there, today

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