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Re: Need for a nurse at home- help with injections

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You don't need any help with this from Spitex! Its the easyist thing to do.Disinfect. Select area-stomach area. Pinch the skin up a little. Inject at 45 degrees to the skin level ( or Less ). Make sure no air in the injection. Release skin. Finish.Disinfect. No problem! From 20 years experience as a trained medical practitioner
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Old 27.01.2020, 00:21
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I am alone in Zurich I am afraid...
This I understand. Also that for those who have already learnt to do such injections, it is no longer a big procedure, while for you it is brand new and a bit scary.

If you are insured in Switzerland then Spitex (= home nursing) is a service covered by the basic medical insurance. Spitex is the regular way to go. However, it needs a doctor's prescription. And in your case it's complicated somewhat by the fact that your doctor is in France. Or perhaps a Spitex company would be prepared to come to your home without a doctor's prescription of you paid their bill yourself.

Apart from that, and depending on how you're travelling backwards and forwards between Switzerland and France, you could try:
  • Learn from youtube videos
  • Go to the practice of the doctor who prescribed those injections and ask them to teach you
  • Go into any large pharmacy and tell them you've learnt what you can from youtube and ask whether they would check that you're doing it right
  • Write a PM to any if the people who've posted on your thread that they know how to do it (if you're in Zurich perhaps particularly Omtatsat, since his description was the most detailed and he has years of professional experience ) and ask whether you could please meet them so they could show you
  • Search this forum for "nurse" and write PMs to those people to ask for a lesson.
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You mean Spitex? Do you have any experience with them? Cheers!





You mean Spitex? Do you have any experience with them? Cheers!



Thank you omtatsat, I asked in HB permanence and they didnt accept to do it. I would do it myself if the medication didn't need prepa, but as it does i prefer to see if I have any other option. I am not afraid of needles or the pain ;-)



thank you Roegner, I will check them out!
What type of medication is it that has to be prepared and what type of preparation do you mean? I can come and help you with it but would like to know what it is first. Send me a PM

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Re: Need for a nurse at home- help with injections

The first time I had to poke a needle into myself for insulin injections it must have taken several minutes for me to take the the plunge (sorry... couldn't resist). Nowadays I all but do it in my sleep. More often than not I don't even feel the prick of the needle.
One of the tricks I learned at the beginning is not to punch the skin gingerly. Do it firmly but you don't need much force. Doing it gingerly can lead to bleeding. And yes, occasionally you will hit small blood vessels under the skin. Don't worry, it's neither a vein nor an artery, so it won't kill you. Just put a cotton pad over it for a few seconds to let it clot.
The medical profession wouldn't let incompetent, clumsy lay people like myself poke needles into themselves if there was even a remote chance of doing damage.
If you are really worried, have your first injection done under supervision (nurse, pharmacist for example), before going off on your own.
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The first time I had to poke a needle into myself for insulin injections it must have taken several minutes for me to take the the plunge (sorry... couldn't resist). Nowadays I all but do it in my sleep. More often than not I don't even feel the prick of the needle.
One of the tricks I learned at the beginning is not to punch the skin gingerly. Do it firmly but you don't need much force. Doing it gingerly can lead to bleeding. And yes, occasionally you will hit small blood vessels under the skin. Don't worry, it's neither a vein nor an artery, so it won't kill you. Just put a cotton pad over it for a few seconds to let it clot.
The medical profession wouldn't let incompetent, clumsy lay people like myself poke needles into themselves if there was even a remote chance of doing damage.
If you are really worried, have your first injection done under supervision (nurse, pharmacist for example), before going off on your own.
Yes the technique with the syringe and needle is like throwing a dart. But of course one does not let go of the syringe. Its a sort of flick action with the wrist. Not to hard and not too slowly.
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Re: Need for a nurse at home- help with injections

Wow, If I didn‘t want to inject a prescribed medication myself, and posted on this forum just asking for the right address i.e. SPITEX, then I‘d probably end-up in a heroine den judging from previous posts.

Really OP, https://www.spitex.ch/

is your contact point.

Get referred by your GP and it’s probably covered by your Swiss Health Insurance. Had a complex leg fracture a few years ago and couldn‘t face giving myself daily injections against thrombosis. Someone came around everyday for the injection.

In my case it was covered by the usual accident insurance.
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Yes the technique with the syringe and needle is like throwing a dart. But of course one does not let go of the syringe. Its a sort of flick action with the wrist. Not to hard and not too slowly.
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Get referred by your GP and it’s probably covered by your Swiss Health Insurance. Had a complex leg fracture a few years ago and couldn‘t face giving myself daily injections against thrombosis. Someone came around everyday for the injection.
My husband needed to take daily anti-coagulants this summer for a broken ankle. At first he had to do injections, then when he saw the specialist she said she could prescribe his anti-coags in tablet form. For people in that situation in future who don't want to do daily injections.
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Wow, If I didn‘t want to inject a prescribed medication myself, and posted on this forum just asking for the right address i.e. SPITEX, then I‘d probably end-up in a heroine den judging from previous posts.

Really OP, https://www.spitex.ch/

is your contact point.

Get referred by your GP and it’s probably covered by your Swiss Health Insurance. Had a complex leg fracture a few years ago and couldn‘t face giving myself daily injections against thrombosis. Someone came around everyday for the injection.

In my case it was covered by the usual accident insurance.
You really are a softy
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You really are a softy
No, I just don‘t like injecting myself, that‘s all.

My previous partner of 7 years was also a (now globally renowned in cancer research) pathologist who couldn‘t stand the sight of blood in those living when we went to see films that showed it. I had to hold their hand.

There is nothing to be ashamed about at all. The OP is looking for simple advice and you just give shit in reply as always.

Unlike you, I can‘t be bothered to groan you as it‘s not important.

But I do contribute when I think that my input might benefit people like us living in Switzerland. It can be a painful experience.
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You don't need any help with this from Spitex! Its the easyist thing to do.Disinfect. Select area-stomach area. Pinch the skin up a little. Inject at 45 degrees to the skin level ( or Less ). Make sure no air in the injection. Release skin. Finish.Disinfect. No problem! From 20 years experience as a trained medical practitioner
What is a trained medical practitioner? Not a doctor, I am guessing
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What is a trained medical practitioner? Not a doctor, I am guessing

In German I am a Krankenpfleger. In English a Nurse
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My husband needed to take daily anti-coagulants this summer for a broken ankle. At first he had to do injections, then when he saw the specialist she said she could prescribe his anti-coags in tablet form. For people in that situation in future who don't want to do daily injections.
Well, the tablets and the injections can have different active ingredient. I was happy when my anti-coag injections had been replaced up until I started having some side effects. I wish I would have stayed on injections, though I hated them.

If anyone told me just one day before the accident that I would be doing injections to myself for the next few weeks I would never believe. But in the end it wasn't so bad, as I imagined. After about 20 injections I had only one blue spot. Very proud of myself.
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No, I just don‘t like injecting myself, that‘s all.

My previous partner of 7 years was also a (now globally renowned in cancer research) pathologist who couldn‘t stand the sight of blood in those living when we went to see films that showed it. I had to hold their hand.

There is nothing to be ashamed about at all. The OP is looking for simple advice and you just give shit in reply as always.

Unlike you, I can‘t be bothered to groan you as it‘s not important.

But I do contribute when I think that my input might benefit people like us living in Switzerland. It can be a painful experience.
The OP is looking for simple advice and you just give shit

Maybe you can explain that? Probably not!
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The OP is looking for simple advice and you just give shit

Maybe you can explain that? Probably not!
No, you are right (in this case ).

Maybe if you’d said that you were in such a really valuable and well respected career before, I might have not hated you for your comments that I thought were coming from the seat of your Ferrari.

I like you better this way.
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For once, Omtatstwat is providing very useful first-hand advice, and I do trust him on this.

Imagine that.

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For once, Omtatstwat is providing very useful first-hand advice, and I do trust him on this.

Imagine that.
A stopped clock, and all that...

Yes, in this case he's spot on. I've self-administered anti-coags post surgery just as he describes, and even as one that really hates* injections it really wasn't that bad.

*Hates/is scared of/reacts badly to. I once woke up on a table in x-ray with a suspected (thankfully not) broken jaw having passed out after receiving a tetanus jab in hospital.

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There are thousands of people in CH giving themselves every day insulin shots for diabetes. Can you imagine the costs when every one of them ran to Spitex!
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What type of medication is it that has to be prepared and what type of preparation do you mean? I can come and help you with it but would like to know what it is first. Send me a PM
This is one of the things I love about EF. Someone who is alone and afraid reaches out asking how to get help, and many people offer real advice and encouragement, (a few people don't see why the OP has reservations or is afraid), and here is a conrete, real offer of help. Wonderful! Thank you, Omtatsat.
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This is one of the things I love about EF. Someone who is alone and afraid reaches out asking how to get help, and many people offer real advice and encouragement, (a few people don't see why the OP has reservations or is afraid), and here is a conrete, real offer of help. Wonderful! Thank you, Omtatsat.
I'd be more concerned why a doctor packed her off with a bunch of meds she can't administer herself, and gave zero advice or instruction.
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