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Old 27.01.2020, 23:32
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Re: Good reason to NOT be loyal to your dentist!

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You think?
I've completed a course of dental work recently and got quotes from my UK dentist and two Swiss dentists. I was very surprised that the UK quote was the same as one of the Swiss ones, but the Swiss dentist could begin the treatment within 3 weeks and the UK one could only offer a first appointment in 6 weeks time. The third quote was 3x the other two quotes but could begin work immediately.
Might have a direct relation.
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Are we supposed to know what these technical terms mean? If you have been doing what you have been doing for 40 years then I would think that you would have learnt to explain it in plain English by now, especially when you are trying to "warn the forum"about it.

Instead of just running to the internet to post knee-jerk threads about your competitors please have a think about what you are writing and at least make it so it's the least confusing it can possibly be before hitting the submit button.
Seriously? You don't understand the words prophylaxis and gingival? They're not exactly obscure.

But that aside, have you considered a little anger therapy, or even a soothing cocktail? Why do you feel the need to act with such venom to every second post you read these days?
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Re: Good reason to NOT be loyal to your dentist!

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Seriously? You don't understand the words prophylaxis and gingival? They're not exactly obscure.

But that aside, have you considered a little anger therapy, or even a soothing cocktail? Why do you feel the need to act with such venom to every second post you read these days?
Such venom to every second post... drama much?

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such venom to every second post... Drama much?
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Curley, I appreciate your concern for privacy, especially for the dentist. But, my concern is about the many patients who get cheated.

This situation could be completely avoided by doing a proper
dental prophylaxis ( cleaning). A dentist should either do it or employ professional hygienists to do so. Should take about one hour and cost between 150 and 200 CHF, in Switzerland. No big deal if done on a regular basis. It can prevent tooth loss and THOUSANDS of CHF spent.

Last week I received a phone call from a dentist in Kanton Aargau. She wanted me to help her out, as her agenda is full for SIX months for dental cleanings. She openly admitted to ONLY USING PAs ( prophylaxis assistants) and admits they also go sub-gingival. She said she could use a DH, from time to time...This is illegal and the patients are paying for a treatment whilst believing it is properly done! It is wrong!

So yes, patients need to be informed. Always ask for Registered Dental Hygienist or dentists willing to take the time for a proper cleaning. (45-60 minutes)

I have been a hygienist for FORTY years in FIVE countries. Believe me, there is a difference and I am ALWAYS on the side of the patient.
On the website of my dentist in Zurich under " team " the title of the person who cleans my teeth ( or whats left of them) is "prophylaxe- und dentalassistentin". Are you saying this is not enough? Must admit your post has put alot of doubt in my mind.

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Anyway, I was simply so upset by this situation and the many other ones I constantly see, and hoped to warn my fellow EFers.

Bottom line: go to professionals and always ask about their certification. Preventive care can save your teeth and your money.
The fact that you were upset on behalf of your patients speaks volumes of how dedicated you are to your profession and your patients. Kudos to you, Susan57!

The thread is actually quite useful. It's always better to be informed and take decisions accordingly. Don't worry, most people did understand your intentions.
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Old 28.01.2020, 08:25
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I highly agree with MathNut! Publishing my case and x-rays definitely would be reason not to trust my dentist.
Bitching about the competition is also bad taste. As most people can not analyse if something and what is wrong with their teeth, they can only chose their dentist due to how they feel treated and trust their feelings, ergo the dentist.

Dentist hopping is a very bad idea. Second opinions can be useful. My dentist does that by his own accord.

I don't let any DH near me! So my dentist and I have a special deal and he does it himself ever 8 months.

I chose doctors and dentist very carefully. We work together and I have my share of responsibility and I don't expect them to be underpaied for their good work.
I trust my dentist completely and have never simply put the blame on him in case of difficulties but worked them out together with him. And very successfully so. All that's in my teeth up until today are simple fillings. And I'm not 16 years old.

I don't see the point in this thread or the message. Don't go abroad? (OP most likely originally is from abroad, so what's the difference? ), change your dentist regularly? (Teeth are a complicated thing which influence many parts of your body and vice versa, if a dentist has to start from scratch, it's not benefiting the client). Go to OP only because OP only knows about teeth? (yeah, well ..... )
This.

I do think DHs are necessarry for some clients, but I have also heard stories of destroyed enamel from over eager or unprofessional DHs.

It seems that this should have been put in a commercial section. Not mentioning the patient exposure.

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On the website of my dentist in Zurich under " team " the title of the person who cleans my teeth ( or whats left of them) is "prophylaxe- und dentalassistentin". Are you saying this is not enough? Must admit your post has put alot of doubt in my mind.
Yes, exactly. Look or ask for a proper DH not a PA. You're a grown-up man, your teeth need a good cleaning. PAs are more suitable for children/teenagers. Some doctors do it themselves, but a DH will have a totally different approach. A good DH will examine and clean every tooth, every space in your mouth.
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Re: Good reason to NOT be loyal to your dentist!

Heres quite a good explanation of the difference between DH and PA but only in German

https://www.dentalhygiene-duerig.ch/...wissenswertes/
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Yes, exactly. Look or ask for a proper DH not a PA. You're a grown-up man, your teeth need a good cleaning. PAs are more suitable for children/teenagers. Some doctors do it themselves, but a DH will have a totally different approach. A good DH will examine and clean every tooth, every space in your mouth.
Well I think if a prophylaxe- und dentalassistentin saw that one had plaque under the gums they would refer one to the dentist as they as PA are not allowed to clean under the gums.
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