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Re: Masks

Since that's behind a pay-wall, could you provide a few words of summary, please?
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Old 29.06.2020, 08:18
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Re: Masks

Says that the mask with valves are potentially less effective than the medical masks w/o valves because virus can pass through the valve.
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Old 29.06.2020, 09:35
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Re: Masks

According to an Italian University, this is true for the outgoing direction. They're designed to protect the wearer, as stated in the last paragraph of the picture.

http://www.unitus.it/it/unitus/i-sum...ine-e-utilizzo

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Since that's behind a pay-wall, could you provide a few words of summary, please?
Sorry, the article talks specifically about building site masks, which I am not quite sure if the article in Italian depicts. Since these masks allow almost free outflow, they do not stop you passing on the virus.

For me the bottom line is that a cloth mask (the finer the weave the better and synthetic microfibres are going to clog less quickly than cotton) is probably just as or more effective than social distancing in an enclosed environment,. However I have no data to back that up; it just seems a reasonable assumption given that water droplets are thought to be the main form of transmission.
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Re: Masks

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To me that suggests that they are not as effective in removing particles from the air.

But any mask is going to impair the airflow, so your breath doesn't travel far from your space.

Did anyone see the picture on the BBC of three Texans harassing a woman wearing a mask? Two of the three had their mouth wide open and were, perhaps, shouting at the woman. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53215501

I cannot believe there are so many idiots on this planet. It's one thing to express an opinion, but to harass, and possibly infect, someone who doesn't share your views is criminal.
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Did anyone see the picture on the BBC of three Texans harassing a woman wearing a mask? Two of the three had their mouth wide open and were, perhaps, shouting at the woman. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53215501
Lovely, I promise not all Texans are that way. But for the ones who are, karma is swiftly coming their way. Houston ICU's are at 100% right now and it will only get worse.

It is very hard for me not to "I told you so" to a few of the ditwits I went to school with posted some of the most idiotic crap I've ever seen on Facebook just weeks ago. Tried to warn them...but yea, anyway.
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Re: Masks

If everyone wore fabric masks, it makes sense to wear a cloth one. If nobody around you is wearing a mask, it makes sense to wear a respirator.
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To me that suggests that they are not as effective in removing particles from the air.
If you have a travel towel made of synthetic microfibres, you will know how it absorbs moisture differently to a cotton towel.
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To me that suggests that they are not as effective in removing particles from the air.

But any mask is going to impair the airflow, so your breath doesn't travel far from your space.

Did anyone see the picture on the BBC of three Texans harassing a woman wearing a mask? Two of the three had their mouth wide open and were, perhaps, shouting at the woman. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53215501

I cannot believe there are so many idiots on this planet. It's one thing to express an opinion, but to harass, and possibly infect, someone who doesn't share your views is criminal.
I posted the following earlier today on the Coronavirus thread

"Re: Coronavirus
One of my sons used public transport on Friday evening and wore a mask. Someone on the tram purposely barged him. In a separate incident on the same evening, one of his friends who he was meeting and who was also wearing a mask was deliberately coughed at. My son said he has heard that there is a sort of resistance group forming of people who are against the social distancing methods. I was interested to know if anyone has had a similar experience or has heard anything about this. My apologies in advance if it's been previously brought up on this thread."

It seems this outrageous and harmful behaviour may also be starting here.
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Re: Masks

Masks are for sheep https://twitter.com/BrentTerhune/sta...90350859677700
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Re: Face Masks

Most people in Zurich seem to have decided that masks are obsolete. Even the VBZ does not play the ad for masks in public transportation anymore.
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If nobody around you is wearing a mask, it makes sense to wear a respirator.
No. You need one of these:

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I posted the following earlier today on the Coronavirus thread

"Re: Coronavirus
One of my sons used public transport on Friday evening and wore a mask. Someone on the tram purposely barged him. In a separate incident on the same evening, one of his friends who he was meeting and who was also wearing a mask was deliberately coughed at. My son said he has heard that there is a sort of resistance group forming of people who are against the social distancing methods. I was interested to know if anyone has had a similar experience or has heard anything about this. My apologies in advance if it's been previously brought up on this thread."

It seems this outrageous and harmful behaviour may also be starting here.
Honestly, people that do this should be thrown into prison for a 14 days. You have no idea what health conditions people have. My mom finished her chemotherapy just this year, she however looks fine. Along with severe anemia, and other chemo-induced health problems, if someone did this and just happened to have Covid-19, it would be a death sentence.
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Sorry, the article talks specifically about building site masks, which I am not quite sure if the article in Italian depicts. Since these masks allow almost free outflow, they do not stop you passing on the virus.

For me the bottom line is that a cloth mask (the finer the weave the better and synthetic microfibres are going to clog less quickly than cotton) is probably just as or more effective than social distancing in an enclosed environment,. However I have no data to back that up; it just seems a reasonable assumption given that water droplets are thought to be the main form of transmission.
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If you have a travel towel made of synthetic microfibres, you will know how it absorbs moisture differently to a cotton towel.
Now that seems to be a good point.

When I went back to find this earlier post, I was quite surprised to find that it was posted a mere 5 weeks ago... with lockdown, and having watched several people getting ill and partially recovering.... these have been a very, very looong few months.
https://www.englishforum.ch/3182432-post273.html

It's about air being breathed in, and being breathed out. And it links to a good explanation by EdwinNL, and also to the "tennis-ball and ping-pong ball" illustration.
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Re: Face Masks

Good instructional video (in FR) by a CHUV nurse showing how to safely put a mask on and off. Cotton mask is ok for up to 4hrs, wash it at 60deg at least for 30min and dry well.

https://www.20min.ch/fr/video/quels-...e-527197031987
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