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Re: Langzeitgymnasium none in south zurich

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1 hour is crazy commute for a 12 year old really. Letís hope one is built in Affoltern in the not too distant future
Nearly 13 years old.

Back, in my days when the rubber boots were still made of wood, grandma and I were still boys, we had to walk uphills both ways to school, bare feet even in a warm summer when it had only 12 inch of snow.

To secondary school took us around 30 minutes, with bus and walking. 4x a day so we could eat at home. And it still does, nothing changed for the kids in my old home town.
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Kurzzeit Gymi is not just for those who didn't make it first time. Some parents prefer their kids go to the local sek for 2/3 years and then transfer to gymi which may be some way away.
Interesting. I didn't know that. I assumed everyone wanted to send their children to long-gymi if they could.

Mine are still a few years away. It is helpful to hear about these things.
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Interesting. I didn't know that. I assumed everyone wanted to send their children to long-gymi if they could.

Mine are still a few years away. It is helpful to hear about these things.
Swiss parents like to hold back their kids (make them start schooling 1 year later), and the number of kids who try the exam in our local school is just under 40% (i.e, half the parents don't even ask their kids to try). Most of the ones who tried the exam are not Swiss. Around half of those who try make it to gymni every year though.
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Re: Langzeitgymnasium none in south zurich

There is a new Langzeitgymi opening this August in Au, the Kantonsschule Zimmerberg. The PnŁselkŁste kids currently attend the Freudenberg school, the ones in Knonaueramt went to Urdorf. Both are easily reachable by train as other people said. Remember, we let Kindergarten kids walk on their own, by twelve you are deemed capable of navigating public transport by yourself.
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Re: Langzeitgymnasium none in south zurich

I donít think itís a problem using public itís the length of time. 50 mins travel one way is too much for a child to endure.

It is a pity as zug is much closer but a big fee must be paid if from outside. Rheinfelden for example despite being in Aargau are allowed attend Basel schools free of charge
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I donít think itís a problem using public itís the length of time. 50 mins travel one way is too much for a child to endure.
Of course, you know your own child best, and what you think she'll cope with. Yet I'd like to remind you that many of the children will be doing similar commutes. That means she's likely to meet up with other kids on the way, and won't be out there all alone. Many children don't actually see it as something to "endure", though not as comfortable as having the gymasium just around the corner, that's true.

Even so, there really are quite a lot of options of what to do on that bus/train. One diligent girl I know started out setting herself a learning task for the way into school, intending to get that out of the way, and socialise on the way home. But as the relationships developed, she relaxed a bit, and set her task for "sometime during the commute", in either direction, depending on which of her classmates were on the same train.

I think it's different, too, when the child is 12, or 14. And that transition can come very quickly. Teenagers can benefit from having some transition time between the pressures of school and getting home to their parents, who are just about then transforming, quite inexplicably, into the most stupid people ever to have been born. Don't worry, it gets better.
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I donít think itís a problem using public itís the length of time. 50 mins travel one way is too much for a child to endure.

It is a pity as zug is much closer but a big fee must be paid if from outside. Rheinfelden for example despite being in Aargau are allowed attend Basel schools free of charge
Well, time flies when your mates are there too and if they're not, it's a great opportunity to get started on the two to three hours homework they set for you. At least that was what I had back in the day.
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Re: Langzeitgymnasium none in south zurich

kilns I don't know where you live, but you mention Mettmenstetten - from there it's about half an hour to the Urdorf KS Limmattal, probably only 10 minutes longer than going to KS Zug.


But some students do commute for over an hour, eg my child's friend from Rifferswil to Enge. The amount of vocabulary they have to learn for tests in 3 languages is quite staggering, as well as huge lists of countries/cities/oceans/mountains in geography, so the commute is a good time to get that done. For the less diligent, Netflix works with wifi on the bus too!
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Re: Langzeitgymnasium none in south zurich

I was actually looking at buying a house in Maschwanden which is 5 mins away from Mettmenstetten but door to door it looked like 50 mins

It seems Meierskappel and Kanton Zug have am arrangement too where after primary Meierskappel kids can enter the Zug school system correct me if Iím wrong
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I was actually looking at buying a house in Maschwanden which is 5 mins away from Mettmenstetten but door to door it looked like 50 mins

It seems Meierskappel and Kanton Zug have am arrangement too where after primary Meierskappel kids can enter the Zug school system correct me if I’m wrong
I think all kids should have an option for langzeitgymmi if they want, have the support and can step up the academic standards. Some stuff at school is just easier if you have longer tme to adjust, to learn the skills, etc. But kilns - if your kids are small, don't count so much on them to actually want to go to gymmi. Not all kids want that, which is totally ok.

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Re: Langzeitgymnasium none in south zurich

I agree but if they do and if they want to go to university then that option needs to be considered
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I agree but if they do and if they want to go to university then that option needs to be considered
Good for you for being a forward thinking and supportive parent.
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I agree but if they do and if they want to go to university then that option needs to be considered
I lived two villages away from Maschwanden and went to Kantonsschule Stadelhofen. Lessons started at 7.30 some days and our train arrived at the train station just below at 7.28. Some teachers refused to let us come 2 minutes late, so I would have to catch the 6.13 bus to be on time. Nobody died.

Once they go to university, they may want to live in town anyway, so unless you can afford a house right on the border, I would focus on finding a nice house with friendly neighbours in a village with a good vibe. Maschwanden is pretty nice but Mettmenstetten or Knonau would be on the train line, removing the need to take a bus. This adds to the cost of houses though, you can't have it all.
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