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justintheexpat 21.08.2020 06:25

Serious depression
 
I got attacked back in Basel last year and nearly lost my life
I have been raped majority of my life in the United Kingdom before I moved to CH
I can go on and on about my life but there is no point.

For someone that is deeply depressed what can an expat do here in Switzerland to get support with limited money.

Medea Fleecestealer 21.08.2020 06:41

Re: Serious depression
 
What you would do anywhere else. Talk to your doctor who'll then give you medication or send you to a specialist.

VFR on top 21.08.2020 07:42

Re: Serious depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by justintheexpat (Post 3209254)
I can go on and on about my life but there is no point.

Sounds like the choice is clear.
We'll be able to fly.

Island Monkey 21.08.2020 08:06

Re: Serious depression
 
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Originally Posted by Medea Fleecestealer (Post 3209256)
What you would do anywhere else. Talk to your doctor who'll then give you medication or send you to a specialist.

Probably canít as he hasnít paid his health insurance :rolleyes:

fatmanfilms 21.08.2020 08:09

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Originally Posted by Island Monkey (Post 3209269)
Probably canít as he hasnít paid his health insurance :rolleyes:

Thats the insurance co's problem. I had an ex, Swiss from birth always lived in CH who paid roughly 1 premium a year & owed the insurance over 100k. Nothing they can do as she receives social benefits & refuses to work as her debts are high.

Chuff 21.08.2020 08:16

Re: Serious depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by justintheexpat (Post 3209254)
I got attacked back in Basel last year and nearly lost my life
I have been raped majority of my life in the United Kingdom before I moved to CH
I can go on and on about my life but there is no point.

For someone that is deeply depressed what can an expat do here in Switzerland to get support with limited money.

Ahh, so now you are adding: "raped most of you life" to the list?

You are correct that you there is no point going on, considering there is a very high chance that you are a troll and that none of your posts convey factual coherence and sincerity. A casual bombshell statement like: "I was raped majority of my life" and then "I could go on but there is no point" are two statements that you generally wouldn't find following each other and that don't even make sense.

The mods need to put a stop to this before you make a fool of people on this forum who are too nice and naive to know when they are being trolled and who will inevitably put some effort into some serious replies.

fatmanfilms 21.08.2020 08:20

Re: Serious depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 3209271)
Ahh, so now you are adding: "raped most of you life" to the list?

You are correct that you there is no point going on, considering there is a very high chance that you are a troll and that none of your posts convery factual coherence and sincerity. A bombshell statement like: "I was raped majority of my life" and then "I could go on but there is no point" are two statements that you generally wouldn't find following each other.

The mods need to put a stop to this before he make a fool of a lot of people on this forum who are too nice and naive to know when they are being fooled.

Having the odd fool poster is quite amusing, I think we should keep Justin for now especially when a favourite fool received a lifelong ban a few days ago

Axa 21.08.2020 10:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3209274)
Having the odd fool poster is quite amusing, I think we should keep Justin for now especially when a favourite fool received a lifelong ban a few days ago


omatstat no more? :eek:

V__ 21.08.2020 10:55

Re: Serious depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Axa (Post 3209326)
omatstat no more? :eek:

oh nooo! :msnmad:

curley 21.08.2020 11:08

Re: Serious depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3209270)
Thats the insurance co's problem. I had an ex, Swiss from birth always lived in CH who paid roughly 1 premium a year & owed the insurance over 100k. Nothing they can do as she receives social benefits & refuses to work as her debts are high.

Part of social benefits is health insurance, paid directly.
So it was paid.

fatmanfilms 21.08.2020 11:30

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Originally Posted by curley (Post 3209334)
Part of social benefits is health insurance, paid directly.
So it was paid.

Perhaps the most recent years are but certainly not 1995-2010, which were on the unpaid debts register.

curley 21.08.2020 11:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fatmanfilms (Post 3209343)
Perhaps the most recent years are but certainly not 1995-2010, which were on the unpaid debts register.

Yeah, social department doesn't pay debts made before registering with them. So I guess those were from before.

fatmanfilms 21.08.2020 11:50

Re: Serious depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by curley (Post 3209344)
Yeah, social department doesn't pay debts made before registering with them. So I guess those were from before.

She has been registered for most if not all of the last 30 years. The funny thing is she never pays the excess & there is nothing they can do, so 100% free medical unheard of in CH.

Pancakes 21.08.2020 11:53

Re: Serious depression
 
I apologize if this is a stupid question... It's just something that I can't seem to understand. But why would someone come to the EF to troll with a post like this? I mean, what exactly is the point?

curley 21.08.2020 12:00

Re: Serious depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pancakes (Post 3209354)
I apologize if this is a stupid question... It's just something that I can't seem to understand. But why would someone come to the EF to troll with a post like this? I mean, what exactly is the point?

I don't think OP is trolling. I think he's going in circles and only turns to "us" when down. The fun times are shared with others.

Now like in real life, even people with a hard core helper syndrome get bored. :rolleyes:

Oh, that reminds me, OP look for self-help fora on your subjects.

Chuff 21.08.2020 12:04

Re: Serious depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pancakes (Post 3209354)
But why would someone come to the EF to troll with a post like this? I mean, what exactly is the point?

To wind people up and/or get attention. This is not a novel concept and has been happening online on forums worldwide for decades (and to more twisted extents than you can probably fathom). We have also had plenty of trolls on this forum, mostly users who were previously banned and come back with a new username to stir up some trouble.

Ironically, justin was the real-life name of one of the most notorious EF trolls we had (economist) who lost the plot, got banned and then repeatedly re-registered to troll under different usernames.

Kittster 21.08.2020 12:08

Re: Serious depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Axa (Post 3209326)
omatstat no more? :eek:

Good riddance.

st2lemans 21.08.2020 12:14

Re: Serious depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pancakes (Post 3209354)
I apologize if this is a stupid question... It's just something that I can't seem to understand. But why would someone come to the EF to troll with a post like this? I mean, what exactly is the point?

COVID?

Heat?

Boredom?

Tom

st2lemans 21.08.2020 12:16

Re: Serious depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by curley (Post 3209334)
Part of social benefits is health insurance, paid directly.

Sometimes.

I know people who get it paid directly, and others who don't.

Tom

doropfiz 21.08.2020 12:21

Re: Serious depression
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuff (Post 3209271)
Ahh, so now you are adding: "raped most of you life" to the list?

You are correct that you there is no point going on, considering there is a very high chance that you are a troll and that none of your posts convey factual coherence and sincerity. A casual bombshell statement like: "I was raped majority of my life" and then "I could go on but there is no point" are two statements that you generally wouldn't find following each other and that don't even make sense.

The mods need to put a stop to this before you make a fool of people on this forum who are too nice and naive to know when they are being trolled and who will inevitably put some effort into some serious replies.

You may be correct, Chuff. Just like anything else that anyone posts, I have no idea whether Justin is stringing us along, or is for real. Justin could very well be a troll, trying to get attention, trying to make fun of whoever bothers to respond to him.

The reason I put in some effort, is just in case, just in case the bits and pieces that Justin has written really do add up to a more or less true narrative.

Certainly his posts here: in need, all over the show, sometimes contradictory, struggling to actually go out there and get help, not really knowing in which country he should be, confusion with money, not taking up the help offered, retreating and going silent, then cranking himself up again to ask for help yet again, could be understood as behaviour following having been severely traumatised.

Purely physically, a severe blow to the head (as he said he suffered) and malnutrition (as he said he is/was anorexic) can result in confused thinking.

If he's for real, he's young, lonely, poor and feeling very displaced, and in addition, he has a lot of inhibitions (from severe facial scarring) and several mental disorders (that's not me saying it, but him), with some good phases.

This forum has compassionately helped more than one young (or not so young) person to find their way, and not get into legal trouble, and prevented worse. As I see it, just in case some or all of the muddle and desperation Justin posts is, in one way or another, true, there's no need to risk exacerbating his situation and pushing him over the edge.


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