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That is quiet high for me to not wear a condom. Dumb people seem to be in the majority everywhere. Hope poor kid does not come into this dumb world with such dumb parents
25% over a month during a woman's fertile period. But yes, even 0.1% probability would be too much of a risk for people with an ounce of intelligence and responsibility.
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25% over a month during a woman's fertile period. But yes, even 0.1% probability would be too much of a risk for people with an ounce of intelligence and responsibility.
I'd use occurrence instead of risk Children are not sources of danger or harm as a wildfires, flooding or transportation accidents.
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Health insurance usually pays for the abortion.
But NOT contraception (pills, IUD, etc.), nor the day-after pill.

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But NOT contraception (pills, IUD, etc.), nor the day-after pill.

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But they paid for my vasectomy ...
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But they paid for my vasectomy ...
Non mine.

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Non mine.

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You should contact your provider and ask why?
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But NOT contraception (pills, IUD, etc.), nor the day-after pill.

Tom
i didn't know about this actually. Coppletely wrong in my opinion to pay for abortions unless they are a medical necessity but I am sure I am in the minority.
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Also, it's worth considering that the female oral contraceptive is usually quite reliable so emotional outbursts like "I hope the pill works" are exactly that (as it's not suggesting she stopped taking it).
I think they were talking about the morning after pill
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My friend recently slept with a girl who he had known for a while. They had unprotected sex, and the girl told him that she is going to take the pill. Later they had a small argument and the girl told him "Let's hope that the pill did work". My friend is worried whether he would be forced to pay for child support if the girl indeed gets pregnant and decides to keep the child. He is a student and has no means to pay for child support. Could someone direct me to the laws concerning this?

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Jeez, who's responsibility does your friend think it is?
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I've always enjoyed this quote:

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My friend recently slept with a girl who he had known for a while. They had unprotected sex, and the girl told him that she is going to take the pill. Later they had a small argument and the girl told him "Let's hope that the pill did work". My friend is worried whether he would be forced to pay for child support if the girl indeed gets pregnant and decides to keep the child. He is a student and has no means to pay for child support. Could someone direct me to the laws concerning this?

Thank you.

I hope for the sake of all the parties it works out ok. Maybe just one thing you could say to him. He has control over birth control. It is that simple, put a condom on. Even if she is on the pill. Lots of things can go wrong with the pill - jet lag, a hangover, the flu, a bad shock, her hormones, forgetfulness - are just a few examples that can go wrong but there are many. So if this isn't someone he wants to share a life and a kid with, he should wear protection regardless of whether she is taking the pill. Also - to state the obvious - the pill does not protect from STDs which either of them could have been previously exposed to. Wear a condom.
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Also, it's worth considering that the female oral contraceptive is usually quite reliable

Usually quite reliable are probably not so reassuring words
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25% over a month during a woman's fertile period. But yes, even 0.1% probability would be too much of a risk for people with an ounce of intelligence and responsibility.

What do you think the overall success rate of using a condom is?
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25% over a month during a woman's fertile period. But yes, even 0.1% probability would be too much of a risk for people with an ounce of intelligence and responsibility.

I dont think the 25% statistic is right, but your 0.1% probability definitely is. An interesting piece of trivia that I didnt know until I was trying to get pregnant ....you can actually get pregnant in a 5 day window around the act itself. So you have sex on a saturday night (unprotected), you ovulate on the following tuesday, you get pregnant on the tuesday. The conception can be minutes after you have sex or days after. So you arent reliant on teh pill working there and then but also in the following days. Fertility is super complex (& wonderful) but relying on the pill alone is not enough.
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What do you think the overall success rate of using a condom is?

Higher than zero As usual, don't kill the good in the name of perfect

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What do you think the overall success rate of using a condom is?
Much higher than not using one and hoping the woman did not forget to take her pill!
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I dont think the 25% statistic is right.
It is actually very much right.

https://www.todaysparent.com/getting...nt-each-month/

According to Yolanda Kirkham, an OB-GYN at Women’s College Hospital and St. Joseph’s Health Centre in Toronto, your chances of conceiving each cycle you try are 25 to 30 percent if you’re under 35, eight to 15 percent if you’re 35 to 39, five percent if you’re 40 to 42 and one to two percent at age 43.
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I dont think the 25% statistic is right, but your 0.1% probability definitely is. An interesting piece of trivia that I didnt know until I was trying to get pregnant ....you can actually get pregnant in a 5 day window around the act itself. So you have sex on a saturday night (unprotected), you ovulate on the following tuesday, you get pregnant on the tuesday. The conception can be minutes after you have sex or days after. So you arent reliant on teh pill working there and then but also in the following days. Fertility is super complex (& wonderful) but relying on the pill alone is not enough.
This is a common knowledge among the natural family planning practicioners.
I was clueless about the ignorance of basic human body plumbing among the condom & pill users. Thank's for a reality check.
NHS: Natural family planning (fertility awareness)
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It is actually very much right.

https://www.todaysparent.com/getting...nt-each-month/

According to Yolanda Kirkham, an OB-GYN at Women’s College Hospital and St. Joseph’s Health Centre in Toronto, your chances of conceiving each cycle you try are 25 to 30 percent if you’re under 35, eight to 15 percent if you’re 35 to 39, five percent if you’re 40 to 42 and one to two percent at age 43.
Is there a difference between trying to get pregnant in a cycle and having one potential event in the cycle whilst also sporadically taking the pill?
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Is there a difference between trying to get pregnant in a cycle and having one potential event in the cycle whilst also sporadically taking the pill?
I am not an fertility expert
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