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09.10.2020, 17:51
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| | Re: Unwanted pregnancy and child support | Quote: | |  | | | But they paid for my vasectomy ... | | | | | Had they met you? | This user would like to thank NotAllThere for this useful post: | | 
09.10.2020, 17:57
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| | Re: Unwanted pregnancy and child support
If you have sex with a hooker in Switzerland, and she has your kid, you are on the hook, so to say.
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09.10.2020, 18:01
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| | Re: Unwanted pregnancy and child support | Quote: | |  | | | If you have sex with a hooker in Switzerland, and she has your kid, you are on the hook, so to say. 
Tom | | | | | But I’ve had a vasectomy and my prostate has been removed. So both having sex with a hooker, and having a kid is unlikely. On the order of immaculate conception.
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09.10.2020, 18:24
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| | Re: Unwanted pregnancy and child support | Quote: | |  | | | [i]blah blah blah]/i] | | | | | I forgot:
3. Gift the young lady with an experience up the wrong 'un
That was a medieval method for those without silk condoms, or so I once heard.
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09.10.2020, 19:17
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| | Re: Unwanted pregnancy and child support | Quote: | |  | | | Much higher than not using one and hoping the woman did not forget to take her pill! | | | | |
According to you it would have to be at least 99.9% effective to avoid being considered unintelligent and irresponsible. "even 0.1% probability would be too much of a risk for people with an ounce of intelligence and responsibility." | 
09.10.2020, 19:30
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| | Re: Unwanted pregnancy and child support
The 25% figure is for people trying for a baby over a month. We don't know how often the couples are having sex - every day or less frequently. A woman is only able to get pregnant over 5 or 6 days in that month so if you're trying outside of that window (creates a picture doesn't it) then you're wasting your time and some people might not know this.
We don't know if the 25% includes this non-ovulating time or not. If it does then the risk during the 5-6 days is higher. You need to know the time relative to the woman's cycle to assess the risk. Most of the month the risk is 0. This is or used to be a low-tech method of birth control and these days there are urine test machines which can detect hormones (in the woman) to assess the risk/chance of getting pregnant.
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09.10.2020, 19:59
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| | Re: Unwanted pregnancy and child support | Quote: |  | | | It is actually very much right. https://www.todaysparent.com/getting...nt-each-month/ According to Yolanda Kirkham, an OB-GYN at Women’s College Hospital and St. Joseph’s Health Centre in Toronto, your chances of conceiving each cycle you try are 25 to 30 percent if you’re under 35, eight to 15 percent if you’re 35 to 39, five percent if you’re 40 to 42 and one to two percent at age 43. | | | | | Thanks for the link, but the article doesn't say what you wrote (which was “25% over a month during a woman's fertile period.”) also its about couples who are trying to get pregnant (its a planned parenthood site), so these are couples who have planned sex multiple times in the month and specifically over ovulation period which in the younger ages can be as long as a week. This is not the case with the OP's friend which was a one night stand. | 
09.10.2020, 20:05
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| | Re: Unwanted pregnancy and child support | Quote: | |  | | | According to you it would have to be at least 99.9% effective to avoid being considered unintelligent and irresponsible. "even 0.1% probability would be too much of a risk for people with an ounce of intelligence and responsibility." | | | | | I didn't know the pedants were out to get me when I came up with a low number to make my point.
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09.10.2020, 20:21
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| | Re: Unwanted pregnancy and child support
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler."
Woman's sex drive supposedly depends on the ovulation timing, so that 25% hypothesis might be a too simplistic model.
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09.10.2020, 20:26
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| | Re: Unwanted pregnancy and child support | Quote: | |  | | | Woman's sex drive supposedly depends on the ovulation timing, so that 25% hypothesis might be a too simplistic model. | | | | | Woman's sex drive supposedly depends on the ovulation timing?!
That hypothesis might be a too simplistic model.
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09.10.2020, 20:49
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| | Re: Unwanted pregnancy and child support | Quote: | |  | | | Thanks for the link, but the article doesn't say what you wrote (which was “25% over a month during a woman's fertile period.”) also its about couples who are trying to get pregnant (its a planned parenthood site), so these are couples who have planned sex multiple times in the month and specifically over ovulation period which in the younger ages can be as long as a week. This is not the case with the OP's friend which was a one night stand. | | | | | My point was to say if a couple trying deliberately have on average 25% chance of succeeding, a random encounter has a lower probability. My intention in posting the number was not to give scientific information. I don't understand why my posts are being picked apart by pedants.
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09.10.2020, 21:41
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| | Re: Unwanted pregnancy and child support
The way my mind works, I would never ever sleep unprotected with anyone, unless I was in a long term loving relationship and was willing to risk becoming a father.
I really don't understand people who for example meet someone on Tinder and have unprotected sex, and take the word of the woman that she is on the pill. You don't truly know a person in 1day or even 6 months.
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09.10.2020, 21:51
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| | Re: Unwanted pregnancy and child support | Quote: | |  | | | The way my mind works, I would never ever sleep unprotected with anyone, unless I was in a long term loving relationship and was willing to risk becoming a father. | | | | | Nobody ever got pregnant by swallowing, just saying.
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09.10.2020, 22:10
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| | Re: Unwanted pregnancy and child support | Quote: | |  | | | Nobody ever got pregnant by swallowing, just saying.
Tom | | | | | You will have to somehow make sure that they truly swallowed and did not reuse the load  All it takes is finger in the mouth and then in the.....
Lot of desperate ladies out there will go to any lengths to trap a man.
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09.10.2020, 22:12
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| | Re: Unwanted pregnancy and child support | Quote: | |  | | | Nobody ever got pregnant by swallowing, just saying.
Tom | | | | | That made me laugh out loud! Thank you, Tom.
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09.10.2020, 22:50
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| | Re: Unwanted pregnancy and child support | Quote: | |  | | | You will have to somehow make sure that they truly swallowed and did not reuse the load All it takes is finger in the mouth and then in the.....
Lot of desperate ladies out there will go to any lengths to trap a man. | | | | | As in the Boris Becker case.
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