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Sounds like an interesting idea for runners

Any of you fitness types out there tried this? Sounds like it would make the daily slog more fun and entertaining.

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Re: Sounds like an interesting idea for runners

Probably neat for some. Just not for me. For one, I don't like to carry my 200g little brick in my shorts pocket (in winter, when I run in tights, I'd have to get one of those arm thingamabobs). Plus I run in a rural area, and I love smelling and hearing nature's sounds (which is why I wear bone conduction headphones....plus I hear cars approaching from behind).

But I can certainly imagine how potentially succesful the idea can be. Like Peloton, right?
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Probably neat for some. Just not for me. For one, I don't like to carry my 200g little brick in my shorts pocket (in winter, when I run in tights, I'd have to get one of those arm thingamabobs). Plus I run in a rural area, and I love smelling and hearing nature's sounds (which is why I wear bone conduction headphones....plus I hear cars approaching from behind).

But I can certainly imagine how potentially succesful the idea can be. Like Peloton, right?
I've heard of their previous zombie version, apparently it's had a load of downloads.
You hear nature? I hear a terrible panting sound whenever I go running.
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Old 03.11.2020, 10:35
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Re: Sounds like an interesting idea for runners

Made me chuckle. I was talking about jogging, not sprinting. If you're panting, slow down, buddy. You're supposed to be breathing comfortably. At my normal 165 spm cadence, my HR is stable around 135/140, and I can hold a conversation (granted, I'm not a competitive runner, so I don't push it).
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Old 03.11.2020, 10:50
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Made me chuckle. I was talking about jogging, not sprinting. If you're panting, slow down, buddy. You're supposed to be breathing comfortably. At my normal 165 spm cadence, my HR is stable around 135/140, and I can hold a conversation (granted, I'm not a competitive runner, so I don't push it).
Mostly joking... HR sits about 150 at 160, heavy man running. I much prefer cycling for an hour or two holding HR at 150 than 30 minutes running at the same beat. My knees do not enjoy the running.
The girlfriend downloaded nike run and listens to some of their running "podcasts?" (I've no idea what they call the motivational instuctions). I think a fair few of them are free.
I'm not sure has she heard of the Zombie/Spy programs, but she doesn't require much motivation to go zipping around the place.
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Old 03.11.2020, 10:57
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HR sits about 150 at 160
That's VERY likely already deep into your anaerobic zone, so you're not getting the most out of the workout. You'll be burning mostly carbs instead of fat at your heart's Zone 4/Zone 5 (and your carbs reserves are a tiny fraction of your overall fat reservs, which means you can only do it for so long). I suggest you check out some heart-rate training literature/videos, that can explain the topic in detail, but working out at a much more moderate HR can positively impact your aerobic engine (and stimulate your cells to produce more mitochondria, which helps your overall endurance).

Back to the thread topic: Nike Run motivational podcasts? That sounds a bit more down my alley. Gotta check it out.
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That's VERY likely already deep into your anaerobic zone, so you're not getting the most out of the workout.
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Barely into the anareobic zone on the line between 3/4, I'm younger than you think! Not to worry, I know the science, just need the motivation.
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Any of you fitness types out there tried this? Sounds like it would make the daily slog more fun and entertaining.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54429713
If it‘s a slog you are doing it wrong.
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Probably neat for some. Just not for me. For one, I don't like to carry my 200g little brick in my shorts pocket (in winter, when I run in tights, I'd have to get one of those arm thingamabobs).
I use a belt with a couple of small water bottles on each side and a pocket in the middle my phone goes in. It‘s a lot more comfortable and balanced than having an arm band and far better than having a phone pendulum in a shorts pocket.
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That's VERY likely already deep into your anaerobic zone, so you're not getting the most out of the workout. You'll be burning mostly carbs instead of fat at your heart's Zone 4/Zone 5 (and your carbs reserves are a tiny fraction of your overall fat reservs, which means you can only do it for so long). I suggest you check out some heart-rate training literature/videos, that can explain the topic in detail, but working out at a much more moderate HR can positively impact your aerobic engine (and stimulate your cells to produce more mitochondria, which helps your overall endurance).
Agree with the science behind your points, but not everyone is created equally. At 40yo my max running heart rate is 206bpm and my latest Garmin calculated lactate threshold is 188bpm, hence my zone 2 actually goes up to 172bpm.
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Re: Sounds like an interesting idea for runners

I use run, zombie, run - same concept, but has been around for a while...

It has multiple stories, not just zombie ones
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I use run, zombie, run - same concept, but has been around for a while...

It has multiple stories, not just zombie ones
Please tell me they are told by zombies.
"Brains, brains, brains"
"Brains?"
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Old 04.11.2020, 11:27
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Agree with the science behind your points, but not everyone is created equally. At 40yo my max running heart rate is 206bpm and my latest Garmin calculated lactate threshold is 188bpm, hence my zone 2 actually goes up to 172bpm.
OMG !!! Your max HR is 206 at 40 years old? What's the emoji for "envy" ?

I'm 46, healthy and active. I run around 50km/wk, and I bike around 400km/mo. But my lactate threshold is only 165.
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Please tell me they are told by zombies.
"Brains, brains, brains"
"Brains?"
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"Brainsss"
Nope - the plot is :

Only a few have survived the zombie epidemic. You are a Runner en-route to one of humanity’s last remaining outposts. They need your help to gather supplies, rescue survivors, and defend their home. And you have another mission — one they don’t know about...


THat said, they have a whole set of stories built in, like something about the UK and roman invasion, etc....

It's very well done, as it blends your spotify playlist into a "radio channel", where they pop in and give you instructions (e.g. run faster, there is a zombie behind you)
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OMG !!! Your max HR is 206 at 40 years old? What's the emoji for "envy" ?

I'm 46, healthy and active. I run around 50km/wk, and I bike around 400km/mo. But my lactate threshold is only 165.
You’re training numbers are similar to mine when I’m not race prepping (i.e. 2020) and work isn’t getting in the way.

From what I understand it doesn‘t really mean too much to have a higher or lower max, it‘s just using the number to understand your zones. I have friends who can literally run all day, but don‘t have a particularly high max.

Having said that, if heart rate reserve is your thing, having a high max with my resting HR in the high 40s is pretty nifty.

I did an ECG on a treadmill in my early 20s, complete with pretty nurse watching and I hit over 225!
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it‘s just using the number to understand your zones. I have friends who can literally run all day, but don‘t have a particularly high max.

Having said that, if heart rate reserve is your thing, having a high max with my resting HR in the high 40s is pretty nifty.

I did an ECG on a treadmill in my early 20s, complete with pretty nurse watching and I hit over 225!
Exactly. I can run all day as well, but a cadence above 170 shoots my HR up to 165, and my body will stop burning fat for fuel, which means I'll hit a wall within 1 to 1.5 hours. So a high max HR means you can run faster and stay in your aerobic zone. And like you, my resting HR is mid to high 40s, which is good for my age.

I do a lactate regularly, but it hasn't really changed much in the last couple of years. Unless I start training for speed, and do more interval training, I guess it won't ever change.
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