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Old 25.11.2020, 19:43
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Re: Eczema cream?

Have you had your vitamin D checked? I've read before that eczema can also be a symptom of low vitamin D (and/or that low vitamin D can at least make it worse).

I was on the site https://www.zurrose-shop.ch/de/ the other day, looking for good face wash, etc., and noticed that they sold a cream for eczema / neurodermatitis:
https://www.zurrose-shop.ch/de/bepan...dermitis-20-g/

(I guess that when the eczema is located only on one or two patches of skin, it's referred to as "neurodermatitis"). That zurrose-shop.ch site has extremely fast shipping -- often next day.

https://nationaleczema.org/eczema/ty...urodermatitis/
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Old 25.11.2020, 19:56
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Elocom is great when you have a flare, but you can’t use it for more than a few days, and not on an extensive part of the body. Topical creams like dexeryl can help reduce the frequency and the severity of the flares.
Our dermatologist said - Two weeks, once per day .. Then every second day for a week .. Even if it's cleared after a couple of days.. keep going..
We've seen no recurrence after the application..

I'm only talking a very small patch of skin, like a couple of CMs.. Use sparingly .. etc..
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Elocom is great when you have a flare, but you can’t use it for more than a few days, and not on an extensive part of the body. Topical creams like dexeryl can help reduce the frequency and the severity of the flares.
Unfortunately poor GP understanding and overcaution has ensured that atopic dermatitis is one of the most undermedicated diseases out there. Generally if you are suffering, I would go pretty heavy on something mid strength like elocom.

Once you are at clobetasol then you need to be more careful.
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Have been taking high dose Vitamin D for years but good to know Interesting to know the term "neurodermatitis". Mine is not as bad as in the Google photos. If someone looks they most likely won't notice it.

I am very good at not scratching so hopefully it will pass soon with the help of the new creams that I bought yesterday after reading all the replies.


I have been taking C and D for years. I did increase the dosage a bit since Corona started. If the creams don't help I will drop it down to pre-corona levels. Be scratchy or die from Corona


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Have you had your vitamin D checked? I've read before that eczema can also be a symptom of low vitamin D (and/or that low vitamin D can at least make it worse).

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Have you perhaps started to take Vitamin D or C supplements recently? I have and am pretty sure that I have developed a rash as a result. I came out in lumps on my face and scaly itchy spots on my body. Dr Google diagnosed an allergy to the Vitamin D supplement.
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Have you changed detergent, showergel etc latley?
Do you also put handsanitizer on your forearms?
No I have not changed it. I did use some new fragrant body lotions that were gifted to me. I did not use them on my arm though or rarely.
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What kind of friction?
I do a lot of fitness and spend hours on fitness mats. I disinfect the mats before using with those cheap gym sprays.
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If it is itchy, could be yeast secondary inf., how much sugar/carbs/booze do you feed yourself?
Does 1kg of chocolate daily count? No sugar or booze generally Just usual fruits and carbs from natural foods.

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Out of interest - did it improve as she got older? My dads was severe - now moderate at worst (he's 58). Mine is moderate to severe - and im hoping as I age (32 at present) things will get less bad.
Yes, it went away completely. My guess, from age 30 to 40-45 she had severe Eczeam on both her hands (no where else) also severe Asthma. My Mum really suffered She is hitting 80s now and has been free of Asthma and Eczema for the last 35 years. She credits Yoga and meditation

So yesterday I bought Bepanthen Sensiderm and Dexeryl cream. I applied Bepanthen before bed and it made it very scratchy, I resisted scratching and it seems less scratchy this morning.

I won't be touching Steroid creams due to some other reasons.


Thanks for all the replies and recommendations!

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Old 26.11.2020, 23:04
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Have you changed detergent, showergel etc latley?
Do you also put handsanitizer on your forearms?
Disclaimer: For a really serious condition, the following may not apply, and proper medical lotions, as described above, may be necessary.

However, for a general feeling that one's skin is too dry or too itchy or burns, it's an excellent idea to go through all one's cosmetics and cleaning chemicals, critically.
  • One way to do this is to start by eliminating those with the most intense perfumes or odours, or of which you know that they are the most chemically potent, one at a time, using milder products, and so on, down to a level that brings an improvement.
  • The opposite method is to try eliminating them all in one go, radically, for a week or two, and use only water (and cloths washed without soap or detergent), and then add a few products again, in small quantities, starting with the mildest first.

It takes about 2 or 3 weeks for the body to adjust.

On the advice of my doctor, I chose the radical route, and know several others who have also done so. Without exception, we all now use way, way fewer cleaning chemicals, and fewer cosmetics and body toiletries than we used to, and those we choose are at very low doses. And all of us report that our skin feels much better.
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Old 27.11.2020, 16:10
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Re: Eczema cream?

I was watching the BBC ‚Dragons den‘ during lockdown earlier this year, and ordered products from the product ‚Hanna Sillitoe’ because I’d had an outbreak of psoriasis during Swiss lockdown (since many years previously not a topic).

I ordered some products, and the result after only a week or so was frankly amazing. I used it for a couple of weeks, and the terrible skin irritation disappeared. Can really recommend.

On the downside, the costs of shipping to Switzerland are nothing to sneeze at.

https://www.hannasillitoe.com/collections/all

Here the only link I could find, try it!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/fe...are-range.html

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I have never truly had Eczema in my life but my forearm has been scratchy for the last few weeks, maybe months (gym matt cleaning liquids?).

Last few days it has become red and slightly bumpy, 4 x 3 inch patch. I stopped scratching but boy it is burning and angry!

I hear this "Vaseline Intensive Care Advanced Repair Hand Unscented Lotion" is a good cream but I went to coop and I could not find any? Any other cream that forum experts can recommend?

Btw parfumcity.ch, a legit website?


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I use this. Prescribed from my doctor. ( prescription not needed). Its top!!!



https://www.omida.ch/produkt/cardiospermum-n-salbe/
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Bepanthen sensiderm is the way to go.
Actually it made it worse for me, but standard bepanthen works nicely.

Some other things that are good for me Aveeno, aloa vera gel, calendula based gels or creams.

Also when it is worse I need to put cream on once an hour or more often, it does make a difference...
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Disclaimer: For a really serious condition, the following may not apply, and proper medical lotions, as described above, may be necessary.

However, for a general feeling that one's skin is too dry or too itchy or burns, it's an excellent idea to go through all one's cosmetics and cleaning chemicals, critically.
  • One way to do this is to start by eliminating those with the most intense perfumes or odours, or of which you know that they are the most chemically potent, one at a time, using milder products, and so on, down to a level that brings an improvement.
  • The opposite method is to try eliminating them all in one go, radically, for a week or two, and use only water (and cloths washed without soap or detergent), and then add a few products again, in small quantities, starting with the mildest first.

It takes about 2 or 3 weeks for the body to adjust.

On the advice of my doctor, I chose the radical route, and know several others who have also done so. Without exception, we all now use way, way fewer cleaning chemicals, and fewer cosmetics and body toiletries than we used to, and those we choose are at very low doses. And all of us report that our skin feels much better.
I would second this. I use actually soap berries for laundry and am very happy. Rarely if there is a stubborn strain that I use something else. Better both for me and for the environment

Soaps that work best for me are forsch and alviana.
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Mustela stelatopia products are what I use for my baby, also organic apricot kernel oil is very good and not at all greasy
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Old 30.11.2020, 11:29
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Re: Eczema cream?

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Bepanthen Sensiderm cream, I applied it a few times a day since I started this thread. It seems to have fixed my issue. I don't feel itchy at all and visually skin looks completely normal. I did apply Dexeryl cream few times too.

Bepanthen is definitely cortisone free as it says on the package, could someone confirm if Dexeryl cream is also cortisone free? From the ingredients it does seem so?

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I have never truly had Eczema in my life but my forearm has been scratchy for the last few weeks, maybe months (gym matt cleaning liquids?).

Last few days it has become red and slightly bumpy, 4 x 3 inch patch. I stopped scratching but boy it is burning and angry!

I hear this "Vaseline Intensive Care Advanced Repair Hand Unscented Lotion" is a good cream but I went to coop and I could not find any? Any other cream that forum experts can recommend?

Btw parfumcity.ch, a legit website?


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CBD has shown to help with Eczema, you should give it a try.
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Re: Eczema cream?

Went for Covid test yesterday, and it certainly was listed as a symptom.

(one of the few I didn't have).
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Re: Eczema cream?

CreraVe has a line of eczema treatment products. You can get them here, or from the US via iherb.com. They’re inexpensive and many people like them. I’ve not had eczema, but I do like the other cerave products.
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Bepanthen Sensiderm cream, I applied it a few times a day since I started this thread. It seems to have fixed my issue. I don't feel itchy at all and visually skin looks completely normal. I did apply Dexeryl cream few times too.

Bepanthen is definitely cortisone free as it says on the package, could someone confirm if Dexeryl cream is also cortisone free? From the ingredients it does seem so?
Dexeryl doesn’t contain any cortisone, 100% sure. It was prescribed to my babies by our pediatrician and we spoke about it. It’s very often prescribed by dermatologists because it’s good at moisturizing but contains 0% potentially allergenic contents (no smell, no perfume).

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Re: Eczema cream?

Some really nice people on this forum, the thread continues to get helpful replies

UPDATE II-
I used Bepanthen Sensiderm + Dexeryl regularly as recommended by some forum members, my problem completely disappeared as a result I think it lasted 7-10 days in total. I stopped applying the cream, and it has stayed away.
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Some really nice people on this forum, the thread continues to get helpful replies

UPDATE II-
I used Bepanthen Sensiderm + Dexeryl regularly as recommended by some forum members, my problem completely disappeared as a result I think it lasted 7-10 days in total. I stopped applying the cream, and it has stayed away.

People were talking about different products, (some of them, unfortunately, wrongly, from a medical perspective).

Prior to using any product, (i.e. treating), any good doctor would insist on diagnosing you. Sometimes, the wrong treatment makes things much worst.

According to your description & updates I / II, I would guess (guess, NOT diagnose!) that you suffered only from an erythema, although it could be a precursor (genetically driven) to atopic dermatitis. Some forum members were talking about psoriasis - that's a completely different ballgame both in etiology & treatment.

For erythemas & non recurrent dermatitis , time, patience, avoidance of the triggering agent (tissue, rubbing or scratching), and hydration would be the best option - particularly high concentration urea creams - which is a 100% natural treatment, or mixes of it with VitD, would probably get rid of the problem.

For recurrent atopic dermatitis (or psoriasis), it would be better to see a good dermatologist early enough. In both cases, these conditions are triggered by specific agents (external, or endogenous, respectively), and controlling these agents are the best option to control the flares. Better prevention than treatment - always!

And yes, as you point out, products containing mometazone (in any concentration, as two brands were mentioned on this thread) or any type of corticosteroids should not be used freely, as their medium and long term side effects are well known, and pretty undesirable. Idem goes for products containing tacrolimus or picrolimus - they used to have a 'black box' on them, banalization of the molecules does not change their biological impact....


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People were talking about different products, (some of them, unfortunately, wrongly, from a medical perspective).

Prior to using any product, (i.e. treating), any good doctor would insist on diagnosing you. Sometimes, the wrong treatment makes things much worst.

According to your description & updates I / II, I would guess (guess, NOT diagnose!) that you suffered only from an erythema, although it could be a precursor (genetically driven) to atopic dermatitis. Some forum members were talking about psoriasis - that's a completely different ballgame both in etiology & treatment.

For erythemas & non recurrent dermatitis , time, patience, avoidance of the triggering agent (tissue, rubbing or scratching), and hydration would be the best option - particularly high concentration urea creams - which is a 100% natural treatment, or mixes of it with VitD, would probably get rid of the problem.

For recurrent atopic dermatitis (or psoriasis), it would be better to see a good dermatologist early enough. In both cases, these conditions are triggered by specific agents (external, or endogenous, respectively), and controlling these agents are the best option to control the flares. Better prevention than treatment - always!

And yes, as you point out, products containing mometazone (in any concentration, as two brands were mentioned on this thread) or any type of corticosteroids should not be used freely, as their medium and long term side effects are well known, and pretty undesirable. Idem goes for products containing tacrolimus or picrolimus - they used to have a 'black box' on them, banalization of the molecules does not change their biological impact....
Best of luck!
For long term eczema the best solution I have found is bathing only 1 minute a week with no products.

Bathing with products precipitates mineral ions onto your skin which causes havoc. That chalky film on the shower fixtures is also on your Skin.

Hard Swiss water (at least up here) is particularly bad.
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I have made massive use of steroids in the past.
Now I only use AVEENO baby eczema therapy - moisturizing cream.
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If your dermatitis is seborrheic, grease is the best and watching out for not striping your skin of it. Hard water is a real problem, super short showers are better.

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