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Yes, definitely 164 60.74%
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Old 07.12.2020, 11:24
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?



Looks more to me like a card to remember to get the second shot, rather than an attempt to introduce a vaccination certificate. But as ever, the Wail goes for the hysterical interpretation.

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Old 07.12.2020, 12:28
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Looks more to me like a card to remember to get the second shot, rather than an attempt to introduce a vaccination certificate. But as every the Wail goes for the hysterical interpretation.
If something needs to be remembered, then it should be put into whatever the person is using as the reminder, for example the iPhone calendar with a reminder notification. This card says that it should be kept in the purse or wallet, so it does look very much like a certificate to me, something that you can show on request.

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Old 07.12.2020, 12:46
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If something needs to be remembered, then it should be put into the iPhone calendar with a reminder notification. This card says that it should be kept in the purse or wallet, so it does look very much like a certificate to me, something that you can show on request.
Indeed, but lots of people haven’t got iPhones, smart phones or are like my husband who forgets/forgets to charge his routinely. He likes the card in the wallet.
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If something needs to be remembered, then it should be put into the iPhone calendar with a reminder notification. This card says that it should be kept in the purse or wallet, so it does look very much like a certificate to me, something that you can show on request.
You do realise that a lot of older people, to whom the vaccine will be administered first, don’t have a phone with calendar and reminder notifications don’t you?

Plenty of people still rely on paper diaries, reminders etc.
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Old 07.12.2020, 14:04
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This is not for you to say if the vaccine is safe or not.
Define safe? Anyone can say the vaccine is safe, or not.

What they cannot do is authorise the vaccine to be approved for use in Switzerland. That is the job of Swissmedic.

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Old 07.12.2020, 14:14
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You do realise that a lot of older people, to whom the vaccine will be administered first, don’t have a phone with calendar and reminder notifications don’t you?

Plenty of people still rely on paper diaries, reminders etc.
Yes of course, people rely on different kinds of reminders — paper diaries, sticky notes, iPhone notifications, etc. I have updated my post accordingly.

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Biometric data format in Switzerland.

To me, the obvious place to record if you have had a vaccine (and possibly which one, dates, etc) would be in the biometric data already stored in many of our ID cards, permits and passports. Swiss and EU/EEA passports now have biometric information in a standard format, while all non-EU permits now have the same.

Is this possible? Can new data be included on an existing document, or would it need to be reissued?
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Old 08.12.2020, 09:42
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

I will probably take it (I usually get the flu vaccine every year so I don't see any difference). I would take some time to get it though (not in the high risk group and I'll admit it that I want to see how it goes before jumping in). Not stranger to new vaccines (I got the first generation of the HPV vaccine for example), I am a bit dubious about the speed of the testing.. but considering how fast these tiny viruses mutate I really don't think that a long testing period would have any difference.

So yeah, once it is available for non risk group I will take it. Even if I am the only one in the household to take it (dear husband who works in the business is a bit more skeptical )

Do you think Switzerland will make it mandatory for all people coming into the country? I do know that France won't be doing that at all so I am curious of how this will proceed.
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To me, the obvious place to record if you have had a vaccine (and possibly which one, dates, etc) would be in the biometric data already stored in many of our ID cards, permits and passports. Swiss and EU/EEA passports now have biometric information in a standard format, while all non-EU permits now have the same.

Is this possible? Can new data be included on an existing document, or would it need to be reissued?
Personally I don't want my medical records stored in something I have to show in every country I visit.

Having something similar but separate, with an international standard, would be a good idea though.
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?


Margaret, 90, died while wearing her great-grandchilren's favour Christmas t-shirt. My other half wondered why British people don't dress up for a photo op; I said that she is!
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Haha. They are awaitng 70000 per day in the “ messe“ oerlkon.
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Personally I don't want my medical records stored in something I have to show in every country I visit.

Having something similar but separate, with an international standard, would be a good idea though.
It wouldn’t be your medical records. It will be your COVID-19 vaccination record. Certainly other vaccinations (Malaria, Yellow Fever, etc) could be added to this as many countries still require these for visitors.

An ID or Passport identifies you as being you. Something separate doesn’t do that.

But can anyone answer my question rather than comment on the principle. Can biometric data on ID cards or passports be edited in a secure manner?
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Yes of course, people rely on different kinds of reminders — paper diaries, sticky notes, iPhone notifications, etc. ...
And keeping cards in their wallet.
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A first look at the Covid Vaccines ID Cards in the UK in the Mail Online. No photograph, no details, no way this can possibly be abused in anyway

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tity-card.html
How naive you are!
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

What if you have had COVID already? Is there any point getting a vaccine?
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Margaret, 90, died while wearing her great-grandchilren's favour Christmas t-shirt. My other half wondered why British people don't dress up for a photo op; I said that she is!
Isn't that the lady who got the first vaccine dose in the UK? She's looking forward to seeing her family.
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What if you have had COVID already? Is there any point getting a vaccine?
I believe there is an indictation you can get it more than once - antibodies don't last. Someone will be along soon to correct me if I'm wrong.
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There should be a way to put the vaccine in cocaine, vaping liquids for e-cigarettes or bar cocktails......no one, no one cares about what's in there, ever
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A first look at the Covid Vaccines ID Cards in the UK in the Mail Online. No photograph, no details, no way this can possibly be abused in anyway

I think in Switzerland, abuse can't be the case, as we have a 'Impfausweis' since birth, I presume the vaccination will then be added to all the other inoculations we had. Also, people who were not vaccinated from birth, will then get a new Impfausweis, with the Covid-19 as their first and perhaps only entry.

The link I ad d to this post, is just to show the photo.

I still hold the old brown one and my kids have the blue one.

https://www.anzeigervonsaanen.ch/comment/reply/36276
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