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Yes, definitely 122 56.22%
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Old 19.12.2020, 13:47
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First they create viruses in the lab, then they come up with vaccines for it. Big pharma business in making.
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All nonsense.
You had the sentences in the wrong order.

Seriously, what planet are you on? I thought even the most die-hard conspiracy theorist had given up on that particular invention.
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Old 19.12.2020, 16:35
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

@Fair Dinkum: I've posted multiple times about the benefits of vaccines and why we should all have them administered, if not medically contraindicated (and yes, there is a very small number of people who should not be vaccinated). So my position is very clear.

Have you ever met anybody who ever had smallpox? What about polio?

Smallpox was eradicated due to global efforts to vaccinate populations. Eradicated. Wiped out. Permanently.

Polio has almost been eradicated globally, also through vaccination. It was eradicated in Australia decades ago, and holds out only in small pockets in the Third World because some populations could not—or would not—be vaccinated.

I'd post photos here of people with smallpox to show what a devastating, disfiguring (and lethal) disease it was, but they are really awful to look at. Google if you want to know.

Other lethal diseases have been decimated by vaccination. Children in many countries just don't get measles or rubella any more—they are protected by vaccinations. When communities get complacent, or conspiracy theorists start to be believed, infection rates start climbing again. There is an irrefutable correlation between rate of vaccination and incidence of disease.

If a vaccine for HIV/AIDS or Alzheimer's disease were available, would you take it? Does the disease have to be (perceived to be) devastating to justify being vaccinated? COVID-19 is lethal for some and devastating for many. And getting vaccinated protects not only you, but also others around you. It's one of the most valuable community services you could render.

Vaccines have universally been shown to be extremely safe and highly effective at preventing disease. I don't have the facts in front of me, but I would guess that paracetamol (Panadol/Tylenol) is responsible for more deaths and morbidity than vaccines, collectively. I hope you'll reconsider getting vaccinated.
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Old 19.12.2020, 16:50
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You had the sentences in the wrong order.

Seriously, what planet are you on? I thought even the most die-hard conspiracy theorist had given up on that particular invention.
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At the right time we will all get vaccinated.
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Old 19.12.2020, 17:03
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All nonsense. First they create viruses in the lab, then they come up with vaccines for it. Big pharma business in making.
You really haven't thought about this very much, have you?

What about the viruses that existed on this earth before any pharma (big or small) and laboratories existed?

I have no expectations that you will answer the above but based on other posts of yours, you'll probably include the phrase "wrath of god" or something similar.

Others have mentioned smallpox and the fact that it has been eradicated.
Nurses who treated smallpox patients cried in relief when the smallpox vaccine was announced.

Not sure whether you have children yourself but here's a sobering image. The child on the left has smallpox. The child on the right has been vaccinated against smallpox.

Can you spot the difference?

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hilarious. Don't give up the day job. Comedy is obviously not your forte.
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You really haven't thought about this very much, have you?

What about the viruses that existed on this earth before any pharma (big or small) and laboratories existed?

I have no expectations that you will answer the above but based on other posts of yours, you'll probably include the phrase "wrath of god" or something similar.

Others have mentioned smallpox and the fact that it has been eradicated.
Nurses who treated smallpox patients cried in relief when the smallpox vaccine was announced.

Not sure whether you have children yourself but here's a sobering image. The child on the left has smallpox. The child on the right has been vaccinated against smallpox.

Can you spot the difference?
And that's a relatively mild case. But as I said in my post above, let's not post more photos of smallpox victims here. That photo should give a good idea of the consequences of not vaccinating.

By the way, for those who don't know, smallpox was not only hideously disfiguring, but also extremely lethal. Before the introduction of a smallpox vaccine in 1796, on average 7.6% of ALL deaths in London were caused by smallpox.
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You really haven't thought about this very much, have you?

What about the viruses that existed on this earth before any pharma (big or small) and laboratories existed?

I have no expectations that you will answer the above but based on other posts of yours, you'll probably include the phrase "wrath of god" or something similar.

Others have mentioned smallpox and the fact that it has been eradicated.
Nurses who treated smallpox patients cried in relief when the smallpox vaccine was announced.

Not sure whether you have children yourself but here's a sobering image. The child on the left has smallpox. The child on the right has been vaccinated against smallpox.

Can you spot the difference?

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Why stating the obvious?

Did you take those pics from the charity magazine or scaremongering episode of Smallpox 4?

Chuff promised in the other post that karma will incite the wrath.
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Old 19.12.2020, 17:12
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"Switzerland will be able to start vaccinating vulnerable people in a targeted manner in December. Then, from 4 January 2021, vaccination of risk groups and other priority groups will begin throughout Switzerland, the FOPH said on Saturday.

The vaccine from Pfizer/BioNTech, which has just been approved by Swissmedic, is suitable for all adults without age restriction and from the age of 16. The Federal Office of Public Health (FOPH) and the Federal Commission for Vaccinations (FCT) are due to publish their detailed vaccination recommendations in the coming days.

The Confederation has ordered three million doses from Pfizer and BioNTech. The vaccine will be delivered in several stages: a first batch will consist of about 100,000 doses, followed by larger deliveries.

The army will receive the vaccines, store them at -70įC in its protected facilities, and distribute them to the cantons shortly before the start of vaccination. The cantons will then be able to store the vaccine for a maximum of five days in the refrigerator (between 2 and 8įC).

Most cantons will set up vaccination centres and mobile teams. Initially, vaccination should be carried out mainly with mobile teams, given the still limited quantity of vaccine available.

Priority groups
The national strategy provides for priority vaccination of vulnerable people, i.e. the elderly and those with pre-existing diseases. This is followed by health workers (second priority) and people living with vulnerable people (third priority).

Then residents and staff of community institutions with an increased risk of infections and outbreaks (e.g. institutions for the disabled). All other adults can be vaccinated as soon as enough doses are available.

Children and pregnant women are currently not among the strategy's target groups, as the results of the necessary studies are not yet available for these groups.

Each person will have to receive two vaccinations, about three weeks apart. Vaccination will be free and not compulsory, the FOPH reminds us. The Confederation is banking on transparent and clear information for the population."

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How the bloody hell did Rupert Murdoch get the vaccine in the UK ? He is Australian citizen resident in the USA!?!

Is he an official resident and tax payer in the UK?
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How the bloody hell did Rupert Murdoch get the vaccine in the UK ? He is Australian citizen resident in the USA!?!

Is he an official resident and tax payer in the UK?
He has a home in the UK, assume he has residency based on his businesses there.
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Having a home somewhere does not make you resident, or elegible.
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Having a home somewhere does not make you resident, or elegible.
But having buckets of money does.

I find it slightly unethical that US Congress people and Senators are high priority. Health workers need to come first not a bunch of incompetent politicians.
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I think they see it as popularizing the vaccine.
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And that's a relatively mild case. But as I said in my post above, let's not post more photos of smallpox victims here. That photo should give a good idea of the consequences of not vaccinating.
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Let's not. The photo I posted should be seen as a celebration of science and of the discovery of vaccinations and nothing else.

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Why stating the obvious?
It wasn't obvious to you.

Back-tracking on your original remarks because of the wall of animosity you met when you posted early today does not make me believe you haven't changed your views.

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Did you take those pics from the charity magazine or scaremongering episode of Smallpox 4?
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Not surprised you haven't seen them.
I leave scare-mongering to evangelical religious preachers.
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To explain my position; you can't just say that "vaccines don't work", when all of the science and evidence shows that they do work. It's like challenging that the earth is round, or denying that gravity exists, or any number of other scientifically and/or medically proven facts..
Hate to be a pedant, but the earth is oval and gravity sucks.
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How the bloody hell did Rupert Murdoch get the vaccine in the UK ? He is Australian citizen resident in the USA!?!

Is he an official resident and tax payer in the UK?
He is most emphatically not an Australian citizen, and we don't want him, either!
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Hate to be a pedant, but the earth is oval and gravity sucks.
Hate to be pedantic about your pedantry, but recent discoveries suggest that the Earth exists in three dimensions, not two, and so is oblate spheroid (or oblate ellipsoid) in shape!
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How the bloody hell did Rupert Murdoch get the vaccine in the UK ?
Who cares?

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At the right time we will all get vaccinated.
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But having buckets of money does.
Only poor people think this is immoral.
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Hate to be pedantic about your pedantry, but recent discoveries suggest that the Earth exists in three dimensions, not two, and so is oblate spheroid (or oblate ellipsoid) in shape!
Four, At least. Possibly 13 if M-theory gets anywhere.
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