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View Poll Results: Covid 19: Will you get the vaccination?
Yes, definitely 164 60.74%
Not sure. Let's wait and see 36 13.33%
No way. I don't need it 17 6.30%
What vaccine? 1 0.37%
Probably - but not straight away 39 14.44%
Only if they make me 13 4.81%
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Old 21.12.2020, 15:43
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Up-to-date vaccination situation by canton:....
And as usual dopey St Gallen cannot get their fingers out of their nether regions and dare to actually do something.
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Old 21.12.2020, 16:27
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Has it got the largest number cases? Does that matter?
No, Vaud (54,812 cases since the epidemic began) is second to Zürich (62,566), according to BAG. And Valais and Geneva beat it on incidence/100,000 people, as well.
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It the largest French speaking Canton, excluding two bilingual and one trilingual Canton.
Indeed. Except.

(Although it should be noted that GR, which is larger, doesn't count French among its three official languages.)
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Old 21.12.2020, 16:31
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Der Spiegel reporting that there could be a vaccine procurement scandal looming on the horizon for the EU

https://www.spiegel.de/international...145a898abd-amp
I am not sure how Spiegel figures their data. But maybe they are correct, considering how affected Europe has been and why.
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Elderly population is probably also a factor. I'm sure the Bundesamt für Statistik has that lying around somewhere...
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Old 21.12.2020, 16:37
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I can now give more information on this from first hand experience.

We have just received a phone call from our GP saying that Neuchâtel is going to start vaccinating next week and as both my husband and I are apparently in the high risk group we are eligible to receive it.

We have an appointment with the GP tomorrow afternoon to give us information about the vaccine which they are obliged to do but it looks as though we’ll be getting it next week.

This is obviously only applicable to Neuchâtel, other cantons may do things differently.
Fantastic news - for everyone, but especially for you.

Turns out there may be some benefits for paying Neuchatel taxes lol.

I wonder how this works for those of us who haven't bothered to sign up for a GP yet (I haven't been to a GP since about 2008). I'm guessing by the time that the young and non-vulnerable like myself are up, it may well be a drop in service.

Even arch-skeptic Aargau is starting from 5 January! I will probably see the mobile vaccination team shortly as we live right next to the altersheim in Frick. Well done CH for getting your act together.
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Old 21.12.2020, 16:51
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

107,000 doses in January and then about 250,000 a month.

There's around 1.5M over 65s in Switzerland.

So we should be out of the woods by c. late spring.
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Old 21.12.2020, 17:38
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I’ll be 66 in April ... But I still think the teachers et al need it more than I do.
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107,000 doses in January and then about 250,000 a month.

There's around 1.5M over 65s in Switzerland.

So we should be out of the woods by c. late spring.
Two doses per vaccination.
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I wonder how this works for those of us who haven't bothered to sign up for a GP yet (I haven't been to a GP since about 2008). I'm guessing by the time that the young and non-vulnerable like myself are up, it may well be a drop in service.
Nope. At least not for the time being.

The doc must have informed you about the risk (no long-term data) beforehand to not become liable. That takes time and will limit the number of vaccinations. It could be that BM's doc is trying to save time by informing them ahead of time. It needs to be done by a doc due to the need to assess the risks for the patient. If I could suggest I'd say to make the preparatory consultation a multi-patient consultation; the actual shot can be administered by a nurse.
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Old 22.12.2020, 09:58
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107,000 doses in January and then about 250,000 a month.

There's around 1.5M over 65s in Switzerland.

So we should be out of the woods by c. late spring 2022.
FTFY.

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Old 22.12.2020, 11:29
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Nope. At least not for the time being.

The doc must have informed you about the risk (no long-term data) beforehand to not become liable. That takes time and will limit the number of vaccinations. It could be that BM's doc is trying to save time by informing them ahead of time. It needs to be done by a doc due to the need to assess the risks for the patient. If I could suggest I'd say to make the preparatory consultation a multi-patient consultation; the actual shot can be administered by a nurse.
Neuchâtel has said they will be setting up an online booking service for vaccination appointments from January, I assume there will be some sort of triage process involved.

Our GP was informed by the canton of the vaccination plan yesterday morning and contacted all their eligible patients yesterday afternoon.
They have dedicated this afternoon to the explanatory appointments that they are obliged to do (normally her afternoon off) ahead of the vaccination roll out next week.
The canton will have two dedicated centres for administering the vaccine with a potential maximum of 650 vaccines per day.
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Old 22.12.2020, 12:56
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Neuchâtel has said they will be setting up an online booking service for vaccination appointments from January, I assume there will be some sort of triage process involved.

Our GP was informed by the canton of the vaccination plan yesterday morning and contacted all their eligible patients yesterday afternoon.
They have dedicated this afternoon to the explanatory appointments that they are obliged to do (normally her afternoon off) ahead of the vaccination roll out next week.
The canton will have two dedicated centres for administering the vaccine with a potential maximum of 650 vaccines per day.
At 2m each queue is going to be 650m long!
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Old 22.12.2020, 14:03
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107,000 doses in January and then about 250,000 a month.

There's around 1.5M over 65s in Switzerland.

So we should be out of the woods by c. late spring.
Assuming you meant 2022 as Ticino Tom corrected, fortunately we have ordered rather more of the Moderna vaccine which should get approval in the next couple of weeks, also more of the Oxford vaccine whenever that gets approved.

The Pfizer order was the smallest of the 3 leaders that Switzerland placed.
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

I would be disappointed as a teacher if we don't get some sort of priority after being there at the front to help parents to get on with their own jobs. So many of my colleagues have caught the virus over these months, and we still go happily to our schools as we believe in the necessity of human contact with our pupils during this difficult times and as a way to help their parents
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

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Assuming you meant 2022 as Ticino Tom corrected, fortunately we have ordered rather more of the Moderna vaccine which should get approval in the next couple of weeks, also more of the Oxford vaccine whenever that gets approved.

The Pfizer order was the smallest of the 3 leaders that Switzerland placed.
My GP told me just now that the Moderna vaccine is expected to be approved here imminently and they plan to start vaccinating with it by the end of January.
The logistics will be much easier for this one as it can be administered at the doctor’s surgery, they will just have to do it in batches of 10 patients in a specific time frame.
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I would be disappointed as a teacher if we don't get some sort of priority after being there at the front to help parents to get on with their own jobs. So many of my colleagues have caught the virus over these months, and we still go happily to our schools as we believe in the necessity of human contact with our pupils during this difficult times and as a way to help their parents
I'd be happy for you to get priority over other people of working age.

I don't think anyone should be going over older people except frontline hospital and care home staff. The death profile is brutal for increasing age, and tbh renders all but the most serious underlying conditions as a minor factor.
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

BAG's new vaccination info site (available in english)

https://foph-coronavirus.ch/vaccination/
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

There was a suggestion by some doctor on BBC Radio 4 Today that only one dose of the Pfizer vaccine is given.

The first dose gives 90% efficacy and the second brings this up to 95%. Thus, the argument runs, vaccinating double the amount of people to 90% is going to stop the virus more effectively...
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

My nephew in southern UK who seems to know everyone got a phone call at 01.30 in the morning from a friend who asked if he wanted to vaccinate.

Apparently, the local NHS centre had excess vaccine that would not keep and be otherwise thrown away.

Should I inform the Daily Mail??
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There was a suggestion by some doctor on BBC Radio 4 Today that only one dose of the Pfizer vaccine is given.

The first dose gives 90% efficacy and the second brings this up to 95%. Thus, the argument runs, vaccinating double the amount of people to 90% is going to stop the virus more effectively...
From what I read, first dose efficiency is only 52%.

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4826
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