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Yes, definitely 122 56.22%
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My GP said, 3 months after Covid- so if you tested in August, you are good to go for vaccine, no?

But yes, I imagine many people who will be vaccinated have had Covid but have not been tested and will be unaware?
Since August I might have had another infection, and I know that I am able to have Covid with no symptoms.
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Fair question, given the fact that we miss out quite a lot of cases. What is the reason for this 3-month delay rule anyway?
Basically they are assuming that people who have had Covid are immune for at least three months as they have antibodies so they prioritise the people who are more at risk and need the vaccine more given that there are limited supplies of the vaccine.
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Thanks for the information! How is it checked if one had Covid? Have you been tested for the antibodies?
I was tested antibodies positive in August, not sure how and when I have contracted Covid. I wonder if some people have had symptoms-free Covid and might get vaccinated, would it be ok?
I was just recruited by the university of Zurich to participate in an immunity study. I had my blood drawn last week. The purpose of the study is to develop an improved antibody test. I don’t think I had covid, but I’ll find out if I had antibodies in a few weeks.

I wonder if the three month rule assumes that post covid immunity is at least three months and this is a way to stretch out vaccine administration.
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Do your cantons have a strategy worked out yet? Schwyz still seems to be keeping everyone in the dark, including the hospitals and local gps.
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Do your cantons have a strategy worked out yet? Schwyz still seems to be keeping everyone in the dark, including the hospitals and local gps.
Neuchâtel seems to have a basic plan worked out.

The first people being vaccinated are the very vulnerable people who are able to get themselves to the vaccination centre themselves. Housebound people won’t get it until they have worked out a plan for administration at home.
This is due to the storage constraints of the Pfizer vaccine and the logistics of taking it to old people’s homes etc. They are hoping to be able to start vaccinating in the old people’s homes next week according to the paramedic we were chatting to whilst under observation following the vaccine. Health care workers will be next in line.

Due to the population of Neuchâtel being relatively low we will only be getting 2% of the total vaccines in Switzerland so it will take some time before they manage to vaccinate everybody who wants it.

They are relying on the GPs to provide them with details of vulnerable patients and then contacting them directly to arrange for the vaccination. I think some GPs are a lot more proactive than others.

They received 250 doses initially and administered 50 yesterday, 100 today and will do a hundred tomorrow. We were number 100 and 101 to be vaccinated in Neuchâtel and I was by far and away the youngest person being vaccinated when I was there today.
Given that the vaccination centre is in the arse end of nowhere a lot of people were being taken there by friends or relatives. I imagine some people declined due to the logistics of getting there.
I read in tte news today that there are hundreds of people already in the waiting list for the next batch of vaccines so I think people are going to have to be patient.

I feel very privileged to have been one of the first people to have received the vaccine here.
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They received 250 doses initially and administered 50 yesterday, 100 today and will do a hundred tomorrow. We were number 100 and 101 to be vaccinated in Neuchâtel and I was by far and away the youngest person being vaccinated when I was there today.
How old are you, if I may ask? You received it because of pre-condition or your occupation?

I'm in the risk group, but in the 30s (so perhaps not such a big risk after all...), so I'm wondering when and after whom can I get the shot.
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

It's kind of crappy right now, time-wise, because so many doctors offices are closed for the holidays. We called my elderly mother-in-law's doctor's office last week, and they're closed until January 4th. My doctor's office also closes for about 2 weeks over the holidays. So this means that vaccine schedules will probably be pushed forward a bit because of that.
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How old are you, if I may ask? You received it because of pre-condition or your occupation?

I'm in the risk group, but in the 30s (so perhaps not such a big risk after all...), so I'm wondering when and after whom can I get the shot.
I am mid fifties and got it because of the immune suppressant medication I take for an autoimmune condition. I didn’t really consider myself to be high risk as my blood work always shows my immune system to be functioning well but my GP said I was in the high risk category so with my agreement put me forward for the vaccine.
I don’t think age is the biggest factor but rather the type of risk you have, they are categorised by order of priority.

We received a vaccine certificate with the batch number on it yesterday and presumably will receive another definitive certificate once we have had the second dose.

Got a sore arm this morning but that’s it, no other adverse effects.
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We received a vaccine certificate with the batch number on it yesterday and presumably will receive another definitive certificate once we have had the second dose.
Have you been informed how long the vaccine is expected to work?
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

The U.K. has approved Oxford/Astra Zeneca. They have also changed vaccination programme. They are going to give as many people as poss the first dose, before going back and doing the second dose (rather than stick rigidly to a 3 week gap before vaccine 2), as most immunity comes from dose 1.
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Have you been informed how long the vaccine is expected to work?
The information sheet we received yesterday says

How long does the protection last?
We don’t know yet if the protection lasts for several months or several years. It is therefore not out of the question that a booster will be necessary, for example annually.”

That’s a direct translation of the French.
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What IM said.

The plane is going down fast. You are offered a parachute. What do you do? Debate if it may not be fully tested and wonder if it’s safe to jump.

OK, stay on board...
This is basically how I see it now, I have deep reservations about this vaccine, and I’ve never gotten a flu vaccine either. It’s also clear that western governments aren’t going to change their advice on masks and lockdowns in spite of the evidence. However if the best (only) way of returning to normal life is to get this vaccine then let’s just get it over with.
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This is basically how I see it now, I have deep reservations about this vaccine, and I’ve never gotten a flu vaccine either. It’s also clear that western governments aren’t going to change their advice on masks and lockdowns in spite of the evidence. However if the best (only) way of returning to normal life is to get this vaccine then let’s just get it over with.
This was my feeling too.
I have never had the flu but got the flu vaccine the past two years for the same reason I got the Covid vaccine yesterday.
Under normal circumstances I wouldn’t have been rushing to get a vaccine that had been developed this quickly but these are not normal circumstances and I really want to get back to some semblance of normality.
The technology is not new, it’s been around for years, it’s just not been approved for use in humans before.

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Its slowly becoming apparent that those who dont get the vaccine will be criminalised and discriminated against.
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Its slowly becoming apparent that those who dont get the vaccine will be criminalised and discriminated against.
Yeah, like wearing no clothes is criminalised

Grow up
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This is basically how I see it now, I have deep reservations about this vaccine, and I’ve never gotten a flu vaccine either. It’s also clear that western governments aren’t going to change their advice on masks and lockdowns in spite of the evidence. However if the best (only) way of returning to normal life is to get this vaccine then let’s just get it over with.
Yep. I will not take it for me. For those who are defenceless.

And I cave in to a flu jab once in a life time a few weeks back since we were still hopeful to scoot home for hols so to protect others, not me. Flu jabs were thought to lessen the CV symptoms, so probably making me less infectious, too. The jab did nada, maybe it's a good thing. But nothing nothing, it was odd.

With CV, I gotta run it by my immunologists and my GP. My former student who is a leading neurosurgeon suggested the vax that needs the lowest temps, lesser risk of immune system overdrive. He himself will take any that comes 1st, though, probably already did. While he's through with CV infection months back, he knows he still has to vax.

Never thought that I will spend hols thinking about all this, instead of the regular work stuff. Interesting times.
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Its slowly becoming apparent that those who dont get the vaccine will be criminalised and discriminated against.
Your worry is completely legitimate and if you watch local media, it is being addressed almost daily. You aren't alone thinking this. We are in a country that allows people to raise their concerns, thankfully.

Last night the local news came up with an electronic vax "book", not sure what the EN term is, as opposed the usual paper 'livret de vaccination'. There were a lot of opposing views - who will have an access to yoyr data, how protected it will be, etc.

For your concerns (and I understand them), turn the evening news on. I doubt that people will be discriminated against. But you might have to increase the measures of social distancing, it looks like a logical choice. There is no way to criminalize if the vax is optional.
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Its slowly becoming apparent that those who dont get the vaccine will be criminalised and discriminated against.
Hopefully there will be some alternatives, such as either vaccine or antibody test or Covid test.
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Hopefully there will be some alternatives, such as either vaccine or antibody test or Covid test.
How can that be, though..Your own antibody count can change anytime, but vax can assure different data, the alternatives would make sense if they were in fact equal. They aren't. You are less likely to infect 2wks after the 2nd jab, while today's neg antibody test says nothing about you tomorrow. I took one, anyways, to know what I went through but still..doesn't mean that somebody on a train tomorrow doesn't sneeze the wrong aerosol.

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Hopefully there will be some alternatives, such as either vaccine or antibody test or Covid test.
There should also be hyperimmune globulins in the pipeline. These are plasma derived antibodies from people who had COVID and then recovered.
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