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View Poll Results: Covid 19: Will you get the vaccination?
Yes, definitely 164 60.74%
Not sure. Let's wait and see 36 13.33%
No way. I don't need it 17 6.30%
What vaccine? 1 0.37%
Probably - but not straight away 39 14.44%
Only if they make me 13 4.81%
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Stop confusing everyone by stating that the argument is their risk of getting COVID against getting the vaccine when the argument should be about being selfish and not getting the vaccine against getting COVID and passing it on to others who may have much more serious and potentially fatal side-effects.
Itís still unknown whether or not any of the vaccines prevent transmission of the virus.
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Stop confusing everyone by stating that the argument is their risk of getting COVID against getting the vaccine when the argument should be about being selfish and not getting the vaccine against getting COVID and passing it on to others who may have much more serious and potentially fatal side-effects.
selfishness or not, it's still NOTHING to do with anti-vax.
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Old 06.01.2021, 15:48
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stop confusing anyone weighing the risks of a new vaccine against their covid risks and crazy anti-vaxers. its nothing like the same.
In addition to those who are 'unsure' about the new vaccine, there are people in this thread who said they do not themselves take or give their children ANY non-mandatory vaccines, I would bet those same people are the ones on Facebook on a regular basis spreading anti-vax material, the current hot topic of which is undoubtedly the COVID vaccine.

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Itís still unknown whether or not any of the vaccines prevent transmission of the virus.
Until we have confirmation otherwise, assume that it does not prevent transmission.
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

you can't group everyone into the category though. there are far more people reluctant to take a covid vaccine immediately than crazy anti-vaxers.
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Old 06.01.2021, 16:08
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you can't group everyone into the category though.
I didn't think I did lump everyone as crazy anti-vax, sorry if it came across that way. But there is objectively a lot of scaremongering and spreading of misinformation going on about the vaccines from both anti-vaxxers and people who are "unsure".
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Old 06.01.2021, 16:10
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

since some here work in biotech i had a question: the mrna vaccines work by injecting the mrna, having the body create the protein spike which then triggers the immune response. i was wondering: why go through the intermediate step of using the messenger rna instead of just synthesizing and injecting the protein directly?
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you can't group everyone into the category though. there are far more people reluctant to take a covid vaccine immediately than crazy anti-vaxers.
These people aren't self-taught scientists.

It would appear that this larger group of people that you mentioned have made their decision to be unhappy with the vaccine based on the various fake and flawed anti-vax stories spread around the web.

Would there have been so many of them without this fake media?

I doubt it for the simple reason that the average Joe in the street has (had) absolutely no idea of how long vaccine or any other medical research actually takes so consequently has no idea that the time-frame has been reduced for the current crop of vaccines.
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Itís still unknown whether or not any of the vaccines prevent transmission of the virus.
This is the key point for me which makes me reluctant to take the vaccine (my kids and I have pretty much every vaccine available). What's the point in taking a vaccine developed in a very short space of time that may not prevent transmission, for a virus that is exceptionally unlikely to cause any serious harm. It's for this reason I've never gotten a flu jab.

If it's the only way that we can return to normality then I'll take it. By the time I come to get it we'll probably know if that's the case anyway!
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. What's the point in taking a vaccine developed in a very short space of time that may not prevent transmission,
Because it may, indeed quite probably does, reduce the transmission if not stop it completely.

I still haven't seen anyone post any logical reason, apart from downright paranoia, why they would not take it if/when offered.
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Old 06.01.2021, 18:38
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

My logical reason is I think others should go first. But that wonít stop me from joining the queue in my proper place. I am 3x at risk and Iíd love to stop worrying.
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

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Because it may, indeed quite probably does, reduce the transmission if not stop it completely.

I still haven't seen anyone post any logical reason, apart from downright paranoia, why they would not take it if/when offered.
Well, the only logical and rational reason that is at least a valid concern, is that there is no long term testing of the vaccines. However, absed onw hat s known about the vaccines here is no evidence to support that there will be any long-term problems and doctors aren't raising any particular risks.

Weighing up the pros and cons of not vaccinating now and living with the very real potential long-term effects (or worse) of COVID vs vaccinating now and living in fear of the tiny potential chance of negative long terms effects of the jab, should be a pretty easy choice to make for any sensible adult.

Sady, the world is not full of sensible adults.
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I still haven't seen anyone post any logical reason, apart from downright paranoia, why they would not take it if/when offered.
Umm, my wife's doctor recommends waiting. Good enough reason for me.

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Umm, my wife's doctor recommends waiting. Good enough reason for me.

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For what reason does the doctor recommended waiting?
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This is the key point for me which makes me reluctant to take the vaccine (my kids and I have pretty much every vaccine available). What's the point in taking a vaccine developed in a very short space of time that may not prevent transmission, for a virus that is exceptionally unlikely to cause any serious harm. It's for this reason I've never gotten a flu jab.

If it's the only way that we can return to normality then I'll take it. By the time I come to get it we'll probably know if that's the case anyway!
The vaccine can can help prevent the spread of the virus because, for one thing, it can help prevent someone from showing symptoms such as coughing and sneezing, and those are the primary ways that the virus's particles are spread ("respiratory particles").

One of the reasons they've said in the past that kids don't spread the virus as easily as adults is because young kids are usually asymptomatic. They can still carry and pass on the virus, just not as easily due to being asymptomatic. That's why these new mutations are worrisome, in regard to schools being open -- because the new mutations appear to be causing kids to be more symptomatic.
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Umm, my wife's doctor recommends waiting. Good enough reason for me.

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Sure Tom...
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Sure Tom...
She will see him on Friday, also to do a Covid test so that she can enter Italy, I'll let you know if he has changed his mind.

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For what reason does the doctor recommended waiting?
I'll have her ask him on Friday.

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If the mortality rate was 99.95%, we'd have a bit of a problem on our hands.
Yes but on a brighter side it would have definitely solved Global Warming Problem.
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It's also worth noting that the FDA never approved thalidomide in the 50s so the regulatory oversight, at least in the US, was stronger than Europe.

They have approved these vaccines though
The Vaccines don't have regular approval, only for Emergency use, so NOT FDA approved in the normal sense.
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Sady, the world is not full of sensible adults.
Some need to look in the mirror more often.

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