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View Poll Results: Covid 19: Will you get the vaccination?
Yes, definitely 135 58.19%
Not sure. Let's wait and see 33 14.22%
No way. I don't need it 15 6.47%
What vaccine? 1 0.43%
Probably - but not straight away 38 16.38%
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Old 17.02.2021, 13:43
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My daughter, who is a chef at a retirement home, was by last evening and said that she knows of at least one person who got COVID (mildly) after the vax, as well as at least one other who passed it on to several but did not get it, thus she and half of the others she works with are waiting.

She also prefers to leave the vax for those more in need (i.e. higher risk).

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I would have thought someone who comes into contact with seniors in a retirement home and presumably goes out into the world, would be well advised to take the vaccine if offered to protect those seniors.

I know an 80-year old woman in the UK who felt unwell 7 days after her first Astra-Zenica/Oxford jab. She tested positive and was admitted to hospital (NHS). A few days later she was well enough to be released. She had to spend 14 days in quarantine and is now fine. Where did she get it? At the van centre? She does have meals on wheel at home...
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I would have thought someone who comes into contact with seniors in a retirement home and presumably goes out into the world, would be well advised to take the vaccine if offered to protect those seniors.

I know an 80-year old woman in the UK who felt unwell 7 days after her first Astra-Zenica/Oxford jab. She tested positive and was admitted to hospital (NHS). A few days later she was well enough to be released. She had to spend 14 days in quarantine and is now fine. Where did she get it? At the van centre? She does have meals on wheel at home...
Maybe at the vaccination appointment.

It takes more than 7 days for an immune response to get going. Particularly in the elderly.
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Yes, if approved by Swissmedic.
Yes, even if not approved by Swissmedic.
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Maybe, the jury is still out on that as it seems that those who get the vax can still pass it on, or even get COVID, the only real advantage is that it seems to reduce the severity.

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The protection isnt' 100%, of course some will catch it despite the vaccination.
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

From today's Schwyz vaccine update:

https://www.sz.ch/privatpersonen/ges...-444-1712-7591

It looks like they will be starting with the 65+ age group, as well as continuing with younger people at risk.

The general population is still expected to have to wait until sometime in the second quarter.
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Old 08.03.2021, 20:58
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FYI, Group B in Bern can now be booked.

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FYI, Group B in Bern can no be booked.
Woohoo, we're up to B one week into March!
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Old 09.03.2021, 08:27
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not/now? Scottish negative?

I'm being very surprised by the number and type of people I talk to who are saying they will not get the vaccine. They're appearing in all walks of life.
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Old 09.03.2021, 12:13
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Mrs. B had her first jab this morning. Medical reasons ...
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Old 09.03.2021, 13:48
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not/now? Scottish negative?

I'm being very surprised by the number and type of people I talk to who are saying they will not get the vaccine. They're appearing in all walks of life.

Unfortunately most non-IT savvy older people generally listen to their younger relatives for advice on these type of things, who quite often are the same ones who are bombarded across all social media by the anti-vaxers and then repeat 'I heard Bill Gates is going to chip you' and the like and make them panic. Also its been clear that the whole vax/mask guidelines in many cases have fallen directly within political lines (e.g. US) which also doesn't help. I definitely note a lot of younger people are firmly in the 'no vax' camp for one reason or another.

I'd like to think people fact check info before spreading, but the one thing which has become blatently clear during Covid is people will literally believe any old sh*t at times despite scientific proof to the contrary. You only have to look at the growth of the flat earth community in the last decade.
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Old 09.03.2021, 13:57
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

I am now the only person in my family not to have had (at least the first dose of) the vax. And still no idea when...

The US got off to a rocky start, but now seem to be storming ahead - at least in the states where my family live.

Here's hoping Switzerland can do the same when supplies become available.
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Old 09.03.2021, 13:58
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Unfortunately most non-IT savvy older people generally listen to their younger relatives for advice on these type of things, who quite often are the same ones who are bombarded across all social media by the anti-vaxers and then repeat 'I heard Bill Gates is going to chip you' and the like and make them panic. Also its been clear that the whole vax/mask guidelines in many cases have fallen directly within political lines (e.g. US) which also doesn't help. I definitely note a lot of younger people are firmly in the 'no vax' camp for one reason or another.

I'd like to think people fact check info before spreading, but the one thing which has become blatently clear during Covid is people will literally believe any old sh*t at times despite scientific proof to the contrary. You only have to look at the growth of the flat earth community in the last decade.
I've heard it from friends who are in tech fields, I've not heard anybody mention any of the Bill Gates is chipping BS. Those who don't want it have mentioned that they feel the development was all quite quick and they'd like to wait until all side effects/long term effects are known.

At this point I usually nod and say fair enough, your choice. Whether some of the people using the "wait and see" excuse are actually using it as a socially acceptable excuse whilst thinking about Bill Gates is completely possible.
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Well perhaps Darwin was right.

Those that think there is a greater risk from having a vaccine than from not, are welcome to abstain. But they should realise they are just delaying the return to normal life for all of us.
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I know an 80-year old woman in the UK who felt unwell 7 days after her first Astra-Zenica/Oxford jab. She tested positive and was admitted to hospital (NHS). A few days later she was well enough to be released. She had to spend 14 days in quarantine and is now fine. Where did she get it? At the van centre? She does have meals on wheel at home...
She could well have been infected before the jab. People in my family who have had it in the UK have been told to be careful for 14 days after as the vaccine takes between 1 and 2 weeks to take full effect.
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Old 09.03.2021, 19:55
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She could well have been infected before the jab. People in my family who have had it in the UK have been told to be careful for 14 days after as the vaccine takes between 1 and 2 weeks to take full effect.
At least! More likely a week or two after the second jab.

Heard today from friends in Canada that they are taking the UK road. 1st jabs being pushed out, but no fixed plans for the second.
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Ethics of Covid vaccine ... so complicated!

How can we balance the rights of people to refuse vaccine, and the rights of those who fear getting infected by them?

And this especially for those who work in health care, be it nurses or doctors, or carers, in hospitals, Care Homes or who work with elderly or frail/immune suppressed people in their home (+ ancilliary staff, cleaners, laundry, food production, etc)?

And the other issue of 'privileges' being only available to those vaccinated, be it theatre/cinema/concerts, etc, or restaurants, holidays, and more.

Complex indeed. Thoughts?
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Old 09.03.2021, 20:36
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Re: Ethics of Covid vaccine ... so complicated!

My thought is we donít actually need another thread to discuss this.

Until we get to the point where vaccine demand falls to a much lower level the point is moot. Iíve seen nothing, in Switzerland, to suggest that those vaccinated receive a benefit. That will likely come but there is little point discussing what could happen.
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Old 09.03.2021, 20:39
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Re: Ethics of Covid vaccine ... so complicated!

I'll stick to CH, which is already complicated. Thinking about the rest of the world is just overwhelming.

About nurses, doctors and carers. I see a huge problem: there are not enough medical workers today. If 10% refuses to get the vaccine, what's the alternative, firing them? What if it's 20%? Those are averages, but what if a local hospital or retirement home ends without staff?

About the privileges of the vaccinated. I hope common sense prevails and this policy is not implemented until everyone has been given the choice to get the vaccine or not.
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How can we balance the rights of people to refuse vaccine, and the rights of those who fear getting infected by them?

And this especially for those who work in health care, be it nurses or doctors, or carers, in hospitals, Care Homes or who work with elderly or frail/immune suppressed people in their home (+ ancilliary staff, cleaners, laundry, food production, etc)?

And the other issue of 'privileges' being only available to those vaccinated, be it theatre/cinema/concerts, etc, or restaurants, holidays, and more.

Complex indeed. Thoughts?
What matters is reaching herd immunity which could be anywhere from 60 - 80% of the population through vaccination or previous infection.
We'll know when we get there because infection rates will start to plummet as the virus runs out of hosts and options. And at that point life could return to some form of normal, even with a significant chunk of the population not vaccinated.
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Old 10.03.2021, 08:28
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Should insurance companies be required to cover the costs of Coronavirus treatment for those that refuse the vaccine (for no good reason to be defined)?
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