Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Help & tips > Family matters/health  
View Poll Results: Covid 19: Will you get the vaccination?
Yes, definitely 164 60.74%
Not sure. Let's wait and see 36 13.33%
No way. I don't need it 17 6.30%
What vaccine? 1 0.37%
Probably - but not straight away 39 14.44%
Only if they make me 13 4.81%
Voters: 270. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1161  
Old 22.08.2021, 17:44
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 8,805
Groaned at 324 Times in 248 Posts
Thanked 20,238 Times in 7,058 Posts
k_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond reputek_and_e has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Quote:
View Post
I want to get vaccine in Swiss for free, but I don't have insurance nor permit. What are my options ?
Do you want to get the vaccine in the plane or in the lounge?
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank k_and_e for this useful post:
  #1162  
Old 22.08.2021, 17:51
otec's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Lugano
Posts: 644
Groaned at 249 Times in 110 Posts
Thanked 491 Times in 244 Posts
otec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthy
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Quote:
View Post
Do you want to get the vaccine in the plane or in the lounge?
Lounge please
Reply With Quote
  #1163  
Old 22.08.2021, 17:53
olygirl's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: d' Innerschwiiz
Posts: 7,770
Groaned at 419 Times in 282 Posts
Thanked 18,298 Times in 5,668 Posts
olygirl has a reputation beyond reputeolygirl has a reputation beyond reputeolygirl has a reputation beyond reputeolygirl has a reputation beyond reputeolygirl has a reputation beyond reputeolygirl has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Quote:
View Post
Lounge please
Be aware it might be an apprentice-trained staff member who would vaccinate you.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank olygirl for this useful post:
  #1164  
Old 22.08.2021, 19:00
fatmanfilms's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Verbier
Posts: 21,376
Groaned at 461 Times in 352 Posts
Thanked 23,091 Times in 11,824 Posts
fatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond reputefatmanfilms has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Quote:
View Post
Be aware it might be an apprentice-trained staff member who would vaccinate you.
Possible someone doing the alternative to military training!
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank fatmanfilms for this useful post:
  #1165  
Old 22.08.2021, 19:49
otec's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Lugano
Posts: 644
Groaned at 249 Times in 110 Posts
Thanked 491 Times in 244 Posts
otec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthy
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Quote:
View Post
Be aware it might be an apprentice-trained staff member who would vaccinate you.
In most of developed world, medical personnel usually have to get at least Bachelors followed by few years practice before getting a job.
Reply With Quote
  #1166  
Old 22.08.2021, 19:53
Tom1234's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Kanton Luzern
Posts: 17,338
Groaned at 679 Times in 527 Posts
Thanked 26,396 Times in 10,640 Posts
Tom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond reputeTom1234 has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Quote:
View Post
In most of developed world, medical personnel usually have to get at least Bachelors followed by few years practice before getting a job.
But not all. In the U.K, volunteers have been trained to administer the vaccine too.
Reply With Quote
  #1167  
Old 22.08.2021, 20:43
FCBarca's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: La Côte
Posts: 1,523
Groaned at 139 Times in 76 Posts
Thanked 1,741 Times in 800 Posts
FCBarca has a reputation beyond reputeFCBarca has a reputation beyond reputeFCBarca has a reputation beyond reputeFCBarca has a reputation beyond reputeFCBarca has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Quote:
View Post
In most of developed world, medical personnel usually have to get at least Bachelors followed by few years practice before getting a job.
That's not true, at all. In the US vaccinations could be administered by technicians similar to those that perform ECGs, Echos and the like - certification is as simple as a short training course on venipuncture
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank FCBarca for this useful post:
  #1168  
Old 22.08.2021, 21:58
otec's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Lugano
Posts: 644
Groaned at 249 Times in 110 Posts
Thanked 491 Times in 244 Posts
otec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthy
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

So no luck for me in Swiss? Shall I go back to the UK and do it there ? I can't afford to stay 2 months between doses tho
Reply With Quote
  #1169  
Old 22.08.2021, 22:14
Axa's Avatar
Axa Axa is offline
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Suhr, Aargau
Posts: 4,463
Groaned at 79 Times in 73 Posts
Thanked 6,264 Times in 2,947 Posts
Axa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Quote:
View Post
I want to get vaccine in Swiss for free, but I don't have insurance nor permit. What are my options ?
Run away while you can, nothing's free around here
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Axa for this useful post:
  #1170  
Old 23.08.2021, 06:37
NotAllThere's Avatar
Modulo 2
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Baselland
Posts: 15,259
Groaned at 312 Times in 268 Posts
Thanked 23,687 Times in 9,633 Posts
NotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Quote:
View Post
that it's fine for 1 person to choose to receive the injection, and another to want to wait for more data and studies on it, gain a biochemistry degree, then a masters and a PhD in immunology, vaccines and epidemiology, then get a research fellowship and to then decide.
There. Fixed it for you.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank NotAllThere for this useful post:
  #1171  
Old 23.08.2021, 08:51
st2lemans's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Lugano
Posts: 32,723
Groaned at 2,628 Times in 1,870 Posts
Thanked 39,831 Times in 18,788 Posts
st2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond reputest2lemans has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Quote:
View Post
I want to get vaccine in Swiss for free, but I don't have insurance nor permit. What are my options ?
Pay for it.

Tom
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank st2lemans for this useful post:
  #1172  
Old 23.08.2021, 10:09
NotAllThere's Avatar
Modulo 2
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Baselland
Posts: 15,259
Groaned at 312 Times in 268 Posts
Thanked 23,687 Times in 9,633 Posts
NotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Quote:
View Post
Pay for it.

Tom
That's only option 1.

Option 2. Become an antivaxxer and convince yourself that you're doing the right thing.

Option 3. Become a covid denier and convince yourself that nobody actually gets really ill from it, except people who were gonna die anyway

Option 4. Take the risk and hope herd immunity protects you.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank NotAllThere for this useful post:
  #1173  
Old 23.08.2021, 13:07
otec's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Lugano
Posts: 644
Groaned at 249 Times in 110 Posts
Thanked 491 Times in 244 Posts
otec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthy
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Quote:
View Post
Pay for it.

Tom
I guess have to wait until I have insurance, just delays it.

I thought Swiss NHS does it for free to protect population and etc. But apparently not.
Reply With Quote
  #1174  
Old 23.08.2021, 13:09
otec's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Lugano
Posts: 644
Groaned at 249 Times in 110 Posts
Thanked 491 Times in 244 Posts
otec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthy
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Quote:
View Post
That's only option 1.

Option 2. Become an antivaxxer and convince yourself that you're doing the right thing.

Option 3. Become a covid denier and convince yourself that nobody actually gets really ill from it, except people who were gonna die anyway

Option 4. Take the risk and hope herd immunity protects you.
I'm not paying for something that I must get for free
Reply With Quote
  #1175  
Old 23.08.2021, 13:16
Bossa Nova's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Vaud
Posts: 352
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 787 Times in 230 Posts
Bossa Nova has a reputation beyond reputeBossa Nova has a reputation beyond reputeBossa Nova has a reputation beyond reputeBossa Nova has a reputation beyond reputeBossa Nova has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Quote:
View Post
I guess have to wait until I have insurance, just delays it.

I thought Swiss NHS does it for free to protect population and etc. But apparently not.
The Swiss government is paying for vaccinations given to Swiss residents, but they coordinate the vaccinations through the health insurance system. Seems a relatively easy way to ensure they are only paying for vaccinations for people registered and domiciled in Switzerland. How else would you suggest they prevent vaccine tourism? If they asked for a permit or passport as ID, non-resident citizens could travel to CH just to get vaccinated, and I think the Swiss government doesn't want to do that. There primary concern is people who live here.
Reply With Quote
  #1176  
Old 23.08.2021, 13:21
otec's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Lugano
Posts: 644
Groaned at 249 Times in 110 Posts
Thanked 491 Times in 244 Posts
otec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthy
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Quote:
View Post
The Swiss government is paying for vaccinations given to Swiss residents, but they coordinate the vaccinations through the health insurance system. Seems a relatively easy way to ensure they are only paying for vaccinations for people registered and domiciled in Switzerland. How else would you suggest they prevent vaccine tourism? If they asked for a permit or passport as ID, non-resident citizens could travel to CH just to get vaccinated, and I think the Swiss government doesn't want to do that. There primary concern is people who live here.
I guess the way I see is two staged approach, first vaccinate all residents who wants to be vaccinated, second, use unused vaccine to vaccinate anyone who asks for it instead of sitting on the stock.
Reply With Quote
  #1177  
Old 23.08.2021, 13:22
Axa's Avatar
Axa Axa is offline
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Suhr, Aargau
Posts: 4,463
Groaned at 79 Times in 73 Posts
Thanked 6,264 Times in 2,947 Posts
Axa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond reputeAxa has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Quote:
View Post
I'm not paying for something that I must get for free
Are you living in Switzerland? Mandatory basic health insurance starts at ~250 CHF per month. So, the free in free vaccination is a mirage.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Axa for this useful post:
  #1178  
Old 23.08.2021, 13:29
otec's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Lugano
Posts: 644
Groaned at 249 Times in 110 Posts
Thanked 491 Times in 244 Posts
otec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthyotec is considered unworthy
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Quote:
View Post
Are you living in Switzerland? Mandatory basic health insurance starts at ~250 CHF per month. So, the free in free vaccination is a mirage.
I'm in garden leave limbo right now, so hence asking if I can get it for free as NHS offers to even illegals in the UK
Reply With Quote
  #1179  
Old 23.08.2021, 13:30
Bossa Nova's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Vaud
Posts: 352
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 787 Times in 230 Posts
Bossa Nova has a reputation beyond reputeBossa Nova has a reputation beyond reputeBossa Nova has a reputation beyond reputeBossa Nova has a reputation beyond reputeBossa Nova has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Quote:
View Post
I'm in garden leave limbo right now, so hence asking if I can get it for free as NHS offers to even illegals in the UK
Erm. You do realize there is no Swiss NHS?
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Bossa Nova for this useful post:
  #1180  
Old 23.08.2021, 14:12
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Basel-Stadt
Posts: 336
Groaned at 146 Times in 73 Posts
Thanked 319 Times in 164 Posts
CliiniMuus is considered knowledgeableCliiniMuus is considered knowledgeableCliiniMuus is considered knowledgeable
Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

Quote:
View Post
The Swiss government is paying for vaccinations given to Swiss residents, but they coordinate the vaccinations through the health insurance system. Seems a relatively easy way to ensure they are only paying for vaccinations for people registered and domiciled in Switzerland. How else would you suggest they prevent vaccine tourism? If they asked for a permit or passport as ID, non-resident citizens could travel to CH just to get vaccinated, and I think the Swiss government doesn't want to do that. There primary concern is people who live here.
Lots of our most needy citizens have neither health insurance, nor support, and they are part of our community nonetheless.

We need to discuss the reality, not the dream, if the intent is to truly offer the choice of a vaccine to every one of our citizens (lots don't even have the choice as things currently stand).

I went to 2 surrounding countries in recent times to support 2 needy people who wanted the injection to get it. The contrast was stark. The in-country teams bent over backwards to make sure these citizens got access to the vaccine of their choosing, to come to us, to make the atmosphere joyous (lots of laughter and light-hearted goodwill extended, no fear-mongering, neutral in tone and intent as they answered questions), and we had a chat about all the ways in which they're making sure as many citizens as possible have access to a vaccine (heartbreaking for me in light of all our frustrations here in the voluntary sector, in making next-to-no progress in removing access barriers blocking some of our most needy from even having the choice).
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
coronavirus, covid, vaccination, vaccine




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Covid 19 vaccine arriving janvier Family matters/health 51 26.12.2020 19:20
Flu vaccine in Geneva mbdm Family matters/health 7 09.12.2016 14:12
Vaccine Question iulianaW Family matters/health 209 25.08.2016 18:49
Vaccine question MsWorWoo Family matters/health 0 03.07.2015 14:59
Meningitis B vaccine John_H Family matters/health 8 03.12.2013 10:38


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 04:02.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0