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Yes, definitely 122 56.22%
Not sure. Let's wait and see 32 14.75%
No way. I don't need it 14 6.45%
What vaccine? 1 0.46%
Probably - but not straight away 38 17.51%
Only if they make me 10 4.61%
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From what I’ve seen in the news, approval might be in time to start immunizing around dec 11, unless something horribly wrong occurs.
Might be a little later though, the time to start immunizing will be immediately after the approval, a few weeks (possibly even days) from December 10th FDA meeting.


FDA intends to make vaccine authorization decision within a few weeks after Dec. 10 meeting https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-n...dcfee89e979ae8

Seems like only Pfizer has applied to FDA at the moment.
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Seems like only Pfizer has applied to FDA at the moment.
They must have applied to the UK for approval, because it's the Pfizer vax that the UK is planning use in 10 days.
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They must have applied to the UK for approval, because it's the Pfizer vax that the UK is planning use in 10 days.
Seems like UK will be the first country to approve Pfizer vaccine (if all goes well), the news report that it might happen next week.
Switzerland’s process will take a bit longer.
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Seems like UK will be the first country to approve Pfizer vaccine (if all goes well), the news report that it might happen next week.
Switzerland’s process will take a bit longer.
I guess there are advantages of being outside the EU, in spite of the scare stories JackieH told us that the UK would be way down the list
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I guess there are advantages of being outside the EU, in spite of the scare stories JackieH told us that the UK would be way down the list
Technically until the end of the year the UK is still acting as in the EU
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Technically until the end of the year the UK is still acting as in the EU
It's approving it, no need to wait for EU, clearly seventy has paid off in a life saving scenario
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They are waiting for the FDA approval, no vaccine can go to the US market without it.
well perhaps they should rethink their politically driven processes, people are dying while bureaucrats are working 9-5.
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I listen to people who say, they want more evidence it's safe even after the trials have taken place.... and it makes me glad that there are people who are willing to take part in the trials even before there are any results at all.
They're the generous ones, unlike the selfish people who don't even want to get the vaccine despite the fact that some individuals who can't get vaccinated rely on a majority of people to be vaccinated in order to be safe.

If you can be vaccinated, do it. If not for yourself, do it for those who can't. If you don't want to get vaccinated because you are too precious, the option should be clear: vaccine or stay home for as long as there is any virus still circulating, or- vaccine or foot all the medical bills if you get sick as a result of the virus.
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They're the generous ones, unlike the selfish people who don't even want to get the vaccine despite the fact that some individuals who can't get vaccinated rely on a majority of people to be vaccinated in order to be safe.
While I do appreciate people who are part of trials I think it is not wise to go on with a mass-vaccination before we know how safe it is. Calling people selfish is too much, maybe those who want to go partying asap are too selfish... It is not easy to understand the motivations behind, maybe some are very sincere and maybe some are indeed selfish.

This is a too short a period to make conclusion about vaccines' long term effects. What if it turns out to be worse for the society overall than the disease itself?

We all want to be able to spend more time with our loved ones as soon as possible. But I do not want to see not careful enough vaccination program to ruin our sacrifices.
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They're the generous ones, unlike the selfish people who don't even want to get the vaccine despite the fact that some individuals who can't get vaccinated rely on a majority of people to be vaccinated in order to be safe.

If you can be vaccinated, do it. If not for yourself, do it for those who can't. If you don't want to get vaccinated because you are too precious, the option should be clear: vaccine or stay home for as long as there is any virus still circulating, or- vaccine or foot all the medical bills if you get sick as a result of the virus.
I don’t think anyone is going to be punished, locked up at home (or elsewhere) in indefinite quarantine, or denied the health insurance benefits for refusing to get vaccinated. I am sure that the government will find a way to convince the majority of people to get vaccinated without these drastic measures.
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Re: Covid Vaccine: Will you get it?

I am awaiting incoming mass vaccination with a mixed feelings of 'it is too soon' and 'complete horror'. Mass vaccination means all of you are going to be back at it everywhere, running around pointlessly in your shitty cars creating noise, pollution and traffic all over again. My peaceful life will be over as I have to watch you again shitting all over this planet.
Can we have Covid 19 PRO just to keep you at home a little longer?
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I really do have to wonder at all of the posts in this thread talking about acting as "guinea pigs" for "untested" vaccines.

The vaccines have been through an accepted level testing and no significant safety concerns have been raised in the 42 thousand test participants. Long-term test results are not available for obvious reasons. I think that pregnant women are one of the only groups not yet tested.

There is so much scaremongering going from scientifically ignorant people, a lot of it fuelled by Facebook anti-vax groups.

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I really do have to wonder at all of the posts in this thread talking about acting as "guinea pigs" for "untested" vaccines.

The vaccines have been through an accepted level testing and no significant safety concerns have been raised in the thousands of people that were injected.

There is so much scaremongering going from scientifically ignorant people, a lot of it fuelled by Facebook anti-vax groups.
The vaccines only have passed licensing for EMERGENCY use, so not the standard accepted level of testing.

Time to start investing in genetically modified food research if the vaccine rollout is a success.
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The vaccines only have passed licensing for EMERGENCY use, so not the standard accepted level of testing.

Time to start investing in genetically modified food research if the vaccine rollout is a success.
I am sure there will be a handy emergency fund for that. There is no free gmo lunch.

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6 million in CH should be getting the vaccine. Its planned 70,000 a day. Starting in January
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6 million in CH should be getting the vaccine. Its planned 70,000 a day
I really cant wait... the sooner people can go about their daily lives the better. I hope they also implement vaccine passports to ensure that people who choose not to get it don't cause further oubreaks.
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I really cant wait... the sooner people can go about their daily lives the better. I hope they also implement vaccine passports to ensure that people who choose not to get it don't cause further oubreaks.
I am curious that the fertility issues have not been discussed, this could have a massive impact going forward, probably not a bad thing, Darwin would have been proud.
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I really do have to wonder at all of the posts in this thread talking about acting as "guinea pigs" for "untested" vaccines.

The vaccines have been through an accepted level testing and no significant safety concerns have been raised in the 42 thousand people that were injected. Long-term test results are not available for obvious reasons. I think that pregnant women are one of the only groups not yet tested.

There is so much scaremongering going from scientifically ignorant people, a lot of it fuelled by Facebook anti-vax groups.
How can you possibly state no significant safety concerns without stipulating in the very short term? Vaccine development is predicated on long-term safety surveillance before being available to public, it is only being considered due to emergency circumstances but it is a gross misjudgement to claim no safety concerns when they have rushed through the normal decade long development cycle for a vaccine in less than 9 months

I am neither anti-vax nor a cynic but understand quite well safety cannot be adjudicated in such a short time frame - there is absolutely an element of rolling the dice here, not sure why anyone would admonish those who propose caution rather than diving in
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How can you possibly state no significant safety concerns without stipulating in the very short term? Vaccine development is predicated on long-term safety surveillance before being available to public, it is only being considered due to emergency circumstances but it is a gross misjudgement to claim no safety concerns when they have rushed through the normal decade long development cycle for a vaccine in less than 9 months

I am neither anti-vax nor a cynic but understand quite well safety cannot be adjudicated in such a short time frame - there is absolutely an element of rolling the dice here, not sure why anyone would admonish those who propose caution rather than diving in
I didn't claim there were "no safety concerns whatsoever" I wrote:

-There are no significant safety concerns raised in the 42000 people tested for Pfizer.
-There are no long-term study results yet available (for obvious reasons).

If established medical and regulatory bodies are saying it is safe to use, then weighing up the pros and cons of getting COVID and associated health complication, vs receiving a vaccine that has been well tested in the short term with no adverse affects but that untested in long-term use... then I will take the vaccine any day of the week.
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I wonder whether it might be smart to test people for antibodies before administering a vaccine. I would imagine that with a positive antibody test you dont need the vaccine,. This somewhat limits the risk and makes more vaccine available for other people now at the initial roll-out stage.
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