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You protect yourself from the severe effects, and by the looks of it, even if you catch it you are less contagious than a non vaccinated person. Therefore, protecting others.
Vaccination is not mandatory in Switzerland.

I am a strong believer that everybody is free to decide for him/herself whether they want to get vaccinated or not. Without being pressured or having to feel guilty (whatever their decision).

This is a thread about when the vaccine is available, not whether or not we should get vaccinated.
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Does she give him any reason or is just "because I say so" kind of "parental" thing?
She probably does, but he kindly saves me the fury by telling me. She is into homeopathy big time and things all modern medicine is lethal. Last time she saw my asthma inhaler, she told me I should just drink a glass of water next time I have an attack ...

Her and her husband haven't left their gated compound since the pandemic began except to visit their daughter/grandchildren a few times, I can imagine her mental health has only getting worse. It is quite sad, especially for my husband. I guess they expect to be there forever without taking the vaccine?
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Old 26.04.2021, 16:38
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Vaccination is not mandatory in Switzerland.

I am a strong believer that everybody is free to decide for him/herself whether they want to get vaccinated or not. Without being pressured or having to feel guilty (whatever their decision).

This is a thread about when the vaccine is available, not whether or not we should get vaccinated.
True, this thread is about vaccine availability, but then please when saying that post vaccine you still may be contagious, you should note that you are significantly less so.

No guilt intended, I will however freely judge people on their decisions.
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I thought Pfizer was a 3-week wait between doses and Moderna was 4 weeks.
Pfizer in VD is 4 weeks. Maybe it differs by canton though. For whatever reason mine is 4 weeks +1day though.
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Virus will be spreading anyway.

If you get vaccinated, you protect yourself, not others. You can still be contagious.
This is simply rubbish, otherwise we are all lost...

...not to mention the strain on hospitals.
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This is simply rubbish, otherwise we are all lost...

...not to mention the strain on hospitals.
Of course you can still spread it. Maybe less so than if you are vaccinated, but nobody knows for sure just yet.

I hope vaccinated people are aware of this before they start acting like the virus never existed.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/...-2021032522230
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Pfizer in VD is 4 weeks. Maybe it differs by canton though. For whatever reason mine is 4 weeks +1day though.
In Zurich it‘s also 4 weeks. Might just be for convenience of scheduling.
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Probably so. But I think it's to avoid having people picking and chosing one vaccine over the other. The time between the shots would easily identify them. I don't think that one week makes a difference in efficacy, so..
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Probably so. But I think it's to avoid having people picking and chosing one vaccine over the other. The time between the shots would easily identify them. I don't think that one week makes a difference in efficacy, so..
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The recommended interval for the Pfizer vaccine is 3-5 weeks so I think Switzerland has decided to simplify things and make it 4 weeks for both of them.
My neighbour who is the vaccine coordinator here has confirmed that Switzerland is using a 4 week interval for both vaccines to make things easier to organise.
Four weeks is in the middle of recommended range for both vaccines currently being administered in Switzerland.
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She probably does, but he kindly saves me the fury by telling me. She is into homeopathy big time and things all modern medicine is lethal. Last time she saw my asthma inhaler, she told me I should just drink a glass of water next time I have an attack ...
I have a relative in Scotland who is exactly like this, she has spent £££££ going to all sorts of cranks in the past 20 years. When I had breast cancer she told me I should come off chemotherapy and try the alternative route, she kept sending me books about it and I was really offended.
Her mother who is 97 had to go into care last year after falling out of bed and fracturing her hip. After they started vaccinating the care home residents in Scotland she told the nurse manager on no account was her mother to have the vaccine. She eventually gave in to the first dose as her mum was the only resident not vaccinated. Now she's adamant her mum isn't getting the second one (to be truthful she wants her mum to die as she can't be bothered visiting her).

She is a total hypochondriac who believes every conspiracy out there to the point she needs psychiatric help. When I'm in Scotland I avoid her like the plague if you'll pardon the pun.

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She probably does, but he kindly saves me the fury by telling me. She is into homeopathy big time and things all modern medicine is lethal. Last time she saw my asthma inhaler, she told me I should just drink a glass of water next time I have an attack ...
I have a relative in Scotland who is exactly like this, she has spent £££££ going to all sorts of cranks in the past 20 years. When I had breast cancer she told me I should come off chemotherapy and try the alternative route, she kept sending me books about it and I was really offended.
Her mother who is 97 had to go into care last year after falling out of bed and fracturing her hip. After they started vaccinating the care home residents in Scotland she told the nurse manager on no account was her mother to have the vaccine. She eventually gave in to the first dose as her mum was the only resident not vaccinated. Now she's adamant her mum isn't getting the second one (to be truthful she wants her mum to die as she can't be bothered visiting her).

She is a total hypochondriac who believes every conspiracy out there to the point she needs psychiatric help. When I'm in Scotland I avoid her like the plague if you'll pardon the pun.
You did very well if you managed to stay polite!

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They announced on the radio today that 55+ are eligible in TI.

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That's not what it said on the website link they sent me by text. If this was the case then they shouldn't have cancelled my registration.

As I said, it appears to be badly organized here.
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That's not what it said on the website link they sent me by text. If this was the case then they shouldn't have cancelled my registration.

As I said, it appears to be badly organized here.
Yes it is. As per yesterday (meaning that, if you registered before then, you weren't eligible thus registration was cancelled ) :

It says so when booking online:

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Self-declaration (either health professional, or the other category)

I declare that I am domiciled in the Canton of Ticino or that I am a health professional working in the Canton of Ticino with direct contact with patients.

I declare that I am at least 55 years old (at least) or that I am a person in close contact with a vulnerable high-risk unvaccinated person (in possession of this signed and stamped medical certificate) or that I am a person in close contact with an immunocompromised person, even if vaccinated (in possession of this signed and stamped medical certificate) or that I am a pregnant woman suffering from chronic diseases or at risk of high exposure to the disease (in possession of this signed and stamped medical certificate). (in possession of the medical certificate signed and stamped by the attending gynaecologist) or that I am a person with a chronic high-risk illness (in possession of this medical certificate signed and stamped) or that I am a member of the medical staff in direct contact with patients (in possession of a self-certification in the case of free practitioners or a certification from the free practitioner).

I declare that I have read and accepted the General Terms and Conditions.




https://www4.ti.ch/dss/dsp/covid19/v...-prenotazione/
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I have a relative in Scotland who is exactly like this, she has spent £££££ going to all sorts of cranks in the past 20 years. When I had breast cancer she told me I should come off chemotherapy and try the alternative route, she kept sending me books about it and I was really offended.
Oh yes ... I had a minor bout of cancer when I was 34 & she gave me a book about cancer being caused & controlled by your “brain” & then called my husband to insist I should not have the surgery to remove it & that I could clear it on my own with a certain type of mushroom and a vegan diet. Perhaps she just wants me dead?
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Oh yes ... I had a minor bout of cancer when I was 34 & she gave me a book about cancer being caused & controlled by your “brain” & then called my husband to insist I should not have the surgery to remove it & that I could clear it on my own with a certain type of mushroom and a vegan diet. Perhaps she just wants me dead?
My wife takes those mushroom extracts ever since she got an abnormal gynae result - I have to tread carefully as this is a topic liable to turn into a big row.
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My wife takes those mushroom extracts ever since she got an abnormal gynae result - I have to tread carefully as this is a topic liable to turn into a big row.
I actually take it now too as a preventative, I do believe in certain aspects of homeopathy. For instance, Quercitin and high levels of Vitamin C have saved me during allergy season (and I still take antihistamines, thank-you science). But when there is actual cancer, you get those cancerous cells out of there fast...especially if you had a mother who died of gyn cancer.

Anyway, let's not go off topic here.
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She probably does, but he kindly saves me the fury by telling me. She is into homeopathy big time and things all modern medicine is lethal. Last time she saw my asthma inhaler, she told me I should just drink a glass of water next time I have an attack ...

Her and her husband haven't left their gated compound since the pandemic began except to visit their daughter/grandchildren a few times, I can imagine her mental health has only getting worse. It is quite sad, especially for my husband. I guess they expect to be there forever without taking the vaccine?
Aww, don't we all love unrequested health advice!

They're very brave not to take the vaccine at their age. Not sure how they'll return to "normal" any time soon.

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My neighbour who is the vaccine coordinator here has confirmed that Switzerland is using a 4 week interval for both vaccines to make things easier to organise.
Four weeks is in the middle of recommended range for both vaccines currently being administered in Switzerland.
The task force recommended extending the interval to 6 weeks a wee while ago to increase the volume of first immunisations - this is already implemented in SG at least.

https://www.bluewin.ch/de/news/schwe...en-675496.html (scroll down to 20:10 uhr)
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They're very brave not to take the vaccine at their age. Not sure how they'll return to "normal" any time soon.
I am so proud my own father took it ... he's a Ron Swanson type (for those who don't know, the libertarian character from the show Parks & Rec). He was happy to get it and continues to wear his mask every single time he goes indoors - even in Texas where it isn't required.
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I am so proud my own father took it ... he's a Ron Swanson type (for those who don't know, the libertarian character from the show Parks & Rec). He was happy to get it and continues to wear his mask every single time he goes indoors - even in Texas where it isn't required.
Everyone aged over 65 in our families already had the second jab. Now I'm seeing that folks who are over 40 are also having the vaccine (second jab! no less) so things look pretty good. Proud of them too and proud they were given the chance to do so (unlike some of us here), in a country which is usually very much looked down upon...
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